Basic Ways to Record Electric Guitar

Started by MDV, December 01, 2010, 08:18:30 AM

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dammit.

And i agree this thread should all be deleted apart from the initial post and then it can start afresh in a civil manner
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Quote from: MDV on December 03, 2010, 05:18:00 PMI want to be able to zoom in so far that the whole width of my monitor is looking at 10ms of two tracks and move one by, say, 3ms to correct phase problems (or create them if I so desire).
I want to slice a track into 15 parts and sequence them however I choose, with whatever fades and envelopes I want.
I want to experiment with song structures by recording 1 minute seconds of guitar, spending 10 minutes programming some drums and then building 10 different basic structures for a 5 minute track from it, before commiting to recording the whole thing
If a notes out of time but otherwise perfect an an otherwise perfect performance, I want to slip edit it into place, not play the whole thing again
I want to use 4 different kinds of compressor and six eqs, depending on circumstances, sometimes on the same track.
I want to automate volume, panning, effects and I want to do it with millisecond accuracy.
I want to create 3 duplicate tracks, bandpass them differently and reverse the pahse of one, compress another for parallel compression or sidechain compressors in a specific frequency range to change the sound of one other track.
I want to see spectrographic analyses of tracks to home in exactly on problems I'm hearing, and I want to see it of any given combination of tracks at any given time.
I want access to databases of thousands of samples, dozens of gigabytes that I can sequence in midi for my drums.
I want to have full control over the level of every drum and the bleed between every mic
If I want to move a snare hit 15ms off the grid and change its velocity compared to the ones around it then I need that facility.

I do all those things and much more on a regular basis, and so I find standalone recorders crippling. I dont find this onerous as many do, I enjoy it. HOWEVER. I didnt say "They are" crippling. I said "I find them" crippling, because they dont fit how I work or give me the facilities I want. I'm well aware that thats not the case for many people and thats why I included them in the guide in the first place - they are a perfectly valid option, depending what you want to do.





             Absolute madness. Sheer insanity. Totally and wholly inappropriate. If you ever think a member of the music buying public cares about any of this stuff, you need to re-assess your values. Spend some time with people who love MUSIC and not recording techniques. It will shock you to your core. Take a long hard look/listen at what the MUSIC lover listens to their collection on. In the old days, it may have been a tape copy of a tape copy played on a shitty £30.00 'ghetto blaster'. Or in the car while doing 90mph with more background noise than MUSIC. Or on a CD, through a high end Valve Amplifier and a pair of 'uncoloured' studio monitors. Now ask the MUSIC lover what they thought of the snare sound...........9 times out of 10 they won't know OR CARE what a snare is. Now ask them if they thought the bit where you time shifted a 3ms section of the guitar track really made the SONG. Whether the technique MADE them want to rush out and PAY MONEY for the song. I think you know the answer.... The only reason a member of the music buying public ever paid for a song is because THEY LIKE IT. There is no other reason. The vibration of the MUSIC (not the recording) sets a vibration in their brain and soul. That is why they like what they like. It is a hard lesson to learn because you care SO MUCH about what you do. It is why you live and breathe. But honestly, no one gives a fuck. So please, always remember the 15 year old kid listening to music on a 'phone speaker at the lowest quality mp3, or the 65 year old listening to whoever on whatever. All they crave is THE feeling. Not whether something was panned with millisecond accuracy. Or EQ'd via a spectrum analyzer. Or if it's perfect. Because to the MUSIC lover, it will always be perfect....


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now that the master has spoken i think we will lock this thread now.

 unless nigel wants to comment.
 i have so enjoyed this thread in a childish sort of way.
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