Lack of original BR800 reverb on exported to DAW files is losing vibe of my song

Started by Super 8, March 27, 2016, 02:57:24 PM

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Hi! Been larking about writing a new toon with a BR800 and then attempting to upload the individual track files to a DAW (via the BR Wav Converter) for further embellishment. Thing is, I was really liking the default BR800 reverb that was getting applied to the song parts when working solely on the BR800 however, now I've transferred the individual song components (as standalone tracks) to a DAW, it's lacking 'the feel' I was getting with that nice reverb from the BR800 - the song now sounds rather 'flat' by comparison in it's new DAW environment (plus I'm not finding a reverb in my DAW that fits the bill!) I realise I can go back to the BR800 and bounce down the entire composition to a stereo file with said reverb in place but the purpose of this particular exercise was to bring what I'd done on the BR800 into the DAW as separate files in order to be able to add extra stuff (MIDI & the like) within the DAW. (I hope this is making some sense!)

What's the best practice to be able to get these individual (mostly mono) BR800 tracks that I've exported to my DAW to actually playback in my DAW how they were (and still are!) sounding when heard on the BR800? (To playback as individual tracks printed with the BR800 reverb I guess!)

BOTTOM LINE: This song I've been working on has 'a vibe' and 'feel' heard through the default BR800 reverb which is seriously lost now I've exported the individual tracks to a DAW. The now 'dry' tracks sound really flat & bland compared to how I've gotten used to hearing them with the BR800 loop effect reverb applied and I'm missing the spacious vibe I was getting from playback in BR800 mode. How do I get that back yet still keep the tracks independent without having to bounce down the whole lot to stereo effectively tying the BR800 mix before I'm ready to? (There's other stuff I'd like to try adding then be able to mix it altogether at the same time rather than having to submix guess!)

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As far as I know the reverb is a loop effect so it is applied after the track is recorded, therfore you can't export the track with the reverb.
I think the only way would be the bounce method. can't the br800 act as an interface/ controller, and if so can you use the loop effects from the 800 in the daw?
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Quote from: Super 8 on March 27, 2016, 02:57:24 PMI realise I can go back to the BR800 and bounce down the entire composition to a stereo file with said reverb in place but the purpose of this particular exercise was to bring what I'd done on the BR800 into the DAW as separate files in order to be able to add extra stuff (MIDI & the like) within the DAW. (I hope this is making some sense!)

You don't have to bounce the entire mix to a single stereo WAV file. You do have to bounce to include the reverb in your WAV files, but it doesn't have to be a stereo mix. Instead, you can bounce each individual track or stereo pair to another v-track. After you've bounced all of the tracks, then export those individual tracks to individual WAV files using BR Wave Converter and import them into your DAW. Yes, it's a lot of work but bouncing is the only way to include the loop effects (reverb and chorus/delay) in your recording. Doing it one track at a time means that you can still keep your tracks separate to import them into your DAW for mixing. To bounce individual tracks, just mute all of the other tracks and bounce in the usual way.

Maybe your best bet is to try a few more reverb plugins in your DAW. You're bound to find one you like eventually.

Here are some pages to check out:

http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2011/05/07/bpb-freeware-studio-best-free-algorithmic-reverb-vst-plugins/

http://www.vst4free.com/index.php?plug-ins=Reverb

http://www.vstplanet.com/Effects/Effects.htm

http://www.vstwarehouse.com/p/effects_20.html#uds-search-results

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pretty much as the guys say Paul.

however, another method would be doing a stereo bounce/mix, transfer to DAW, but any additions you make in the DAW with midi instruments etc, record a mix or individual tracks into wavs and transfer the additional stuff into the br800 for mixing and mastering.
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YES! You guys have that question covered - top answers = CASE CLOSED! (Many thanks Messrs Hook, ORH & 64 Guitars, much appreciated!) 

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Quote from: Super 8 on March 28, 2016, 02:54:13 AMYES! You guys have that question covered - top answers = CASE CLOSED! (Many thanks Messrs Hook, ORH & 64 Guitars, much appreciated!) 
Also remember that even though your tracks may be in mono your reverb may be in stereo so you would need to bounce the one track down to a stereo pair to keep the reverb in stereo.