Phasing...?

Started by ConanTroutman, October 13, 2010, 01:09:27 PM

I own a BR-600 and I'm using a SM57 to mike my amp. I'm trying to double up the guitar parts to make it sound thicker, mix tones etc. However, I'm getting a natural phasing sound i.e., the guitar sounds wonky when I have more than one track playing. I'm a recording noob so I'm probably doing something wrong. It tends to be on single note stuff, on chords you can't hear it.

I'm close-miking the amp with the 57 and not moving it in between takes. If need be I can upload a clip you'll just have to excuse the quality, I'm still riding the learning curve.

henwrench

Quote from: ConanTroutman on October 13, 2010, 01:09:27 PMI'm trying to double up the guitar parts to make it sound thicker, mix tones etc. However, I'm getting a natural phasing sound

    There within lies the answer, Troutman. Indeed, you are 'getting' natural chorus rather than phasing. Don't worry about it. Pan your two guitars, one hard left, the other hard right...the 'chorus/phasing' sound should now be gone.
    When two exact same notes and tones come out of the speakers at the same frequency/timing/volume, the two resulting sound waves try to cancel each other out and you can hear the 'phasing'.

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I had a feeling panning might fix it. I haven't got to the mixing stage yet and this is my first time using more than one guitar. I'll finish the tracks tonight and see if my problems are solved in the mixing stage.

One other question, what about doing more than one guitar? Say, if I wanted to do 3 or 4?

Geir

Quote from: ConanTroutman on October 13, 2010, 02:28:29 PMOne other question, what about doing more than one guitar? Say, if I wanted to do 3 or 4?
What I do when recording more than two guitars is that only two and two play the same pattern on the guitar. Then I mix each pair left/right. One pair fully and the other pair only halfway left/right.

Experiment a bit with panning and you'll find what suits you !
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Oh well ........

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Hmmm. I wonder if that explains that when I double my vocals, it alway sounds weird. I always thought it was because I can't sing in tune.

BTW, do you know the difference between the 1st and 2nd stands of the double basses in an orchestra?


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I know chorus can also be created by two voices that are very slightly out of tune from each other. I believe chorus pedals reproduce the signal going through them into voices that are slightly above and slightly below the input signal so it still sounds in tune, but...chorus-y.

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