New BR model - the BR-800

[jsangiuliano]

64Guitars,

Thank you. Yes, I'm probably being a little paranoid about future software/OS compatibility. I think you're right, most old applications keep on running on modern Windows, so it's probably safe to assume that the same will happen with the converter. Also, this product is in the beginning of its life cycle, so that should help as well.

Do we know if Boss will be updating the whole BR family in the near future?

Thanks again!
JSan

[Henky]

Look over at the Zoom forums. People aren't feeling so great about the R24 either. A few people wrote lengthy reviews of the unit before returning them.

one doesn't have a chance to thoroughly use the device with more than 44.1kHz/16bits settings.

He, I'm from the Zoom forum and I don't say the R24 is perfect but I just can't understand why people state things like "the R24 can't be used with more than 44.1kHz/16bits settings" without checking the specs.
The R24 can record 44.1/48kHz, 16/24bit WAV to a SD card, while the BR-800 can only record in the "BOSS format" which is in fact only 44.1kHz/16bits.
And we're not talking about using the machines as an interface here just recording standalone to a SD card.
Well I rather choose 8 tracks of simultaneous recording at 48Khz 24bit standard WAV with the R24 above the 4 tracks of simultaneous recording at 44.1Khz 16 bit in the BOSS format of the BR-800, but that's just me I guess.

[64Guitars]

Do we know if Boss will be updating the whole BR family in the near future?

I think it's inevitable and long overdue because of the 1GB memory card limit on the older BRs. But when they'll announce new models is anybody's guess. And they won't necessarily replace the existing models on a one-to-one basis. For example, the BR-800 may be replacing both the BR-900CD and the BR-600. Neither are listed on the recorders page of the main Boss website any longer.

[sodalimon]

one doesn't have a chance to thoroughly use the device with more than 44.1kHz/16bits settings.

He, I'm from the Zoom forum and I don't say the R24 is perfect but I just can't understand why people state things like "the R24 can't be used with more than 44.1kHz/16bits settings" without checking the specs.
The R24 can record 44.1/48kHz, 16/24bit WAV to a SD card, while the BR-800 can only record in the "BOSS format" which is in fact only 44.1kHz/16bits.

From page 77 of the user manual of R24:
Effect and patch operations can only be conducted when the project sample rate is set to 44.1 kHz.
Is this not true?

[Kevin_12345us]

The Rhythm Editor is version 1.00 and appears to be the same as the one for the BR-600/864/900. However, the included samples sound different (perhaps they're from the DR-880?).

The BR Wave Converter also looks identical to the BR-532/600/864/900/MBR version but it is version 3.00. I assume it was updated for compatibility with the BR-800. Not sure yet if it will work with other BRs.

Anyone know if there is a similiar editor for the DR-880?

[Henky]

one doesn't have a chance to thoroughly use the device with more than 44.1kHz/16bits settings.

He, I'm from the Zoom forum and I don't say the R24 is perfect but I just can't understand why people state things like "the R24 can't be used with more than 44.1kHz/16bits settings" without checking the specs.
The R24 can record 44.1/48kHz, 16/24bit WAV to a SD card, while the BR-800 can only record in the "BOSS format" which is in fact only 44.1kHz/16bits.

From page 77 of the user manual of R24:
Effect and patch operations can only be conducted when the project sample rate is set to 44.1 kHz.
Is this not true?

And where, my dear friend, does it say it also has to be 16 bit?

Possible settings for the R24:
44.1khz/16bit wav
44.1kHz/24bit wav
48kHz/16bit wav
48kHz/24bit wav

Possible settings for the BR-800:
44.1khz/16bit Boss format

So why the degrading tone towards the R24 that you don't have a chance to thoroughly use the device with more than 44.1kHz/16bits settings (which isn't true as you can use the R24 with effects 44.1kHz/24bit and without even 48kHz/24bit) when the BR-800 is the device which is limited to this 44.1kHz/16bits?

[BuleriaChk]

My method is to create a MIDI file on channel 10 in SONAR or a midi clip in Ableton (which only saves to MIDI format 0, and has to be converted to MIDI format 1 via SONAR), and then import it into the DR-880.  Of course, the MIDI note numbers are fixed in the DR-880, and you can't change the samples.

I'm acquiring a notebook computer (Toshiba NB305-310), and after upgrading the memeory to 2 GB, am planning on running Battery 3 (hopefully under Ableton Live, which has its own sequencer, or by using a Drum Rack) and/or triggering Battery using the DR-880's MIDI out.

If that works, I'm going to try running some sort of guitar processor (Guitar Port/ Pod Farm2) to start.  If that works, I'll be happy.... (It might even record guitar....we'll see.....)

The Rhythm Editor is version 1.00 and appears to be the same as the one for the BR-600/864/900. However, the included samples sound different (perhaps they're from the DR-880?).

The BR Wave Converter also looks identical to the BR-532/600/864/900/MBR version but it is version 3.00. I assume it was updated for compatibility with the BR-800. Not sure yet if it will work with other BRs.

Anyone know if there is a similiar editor for the DR-880?

[vierge99]

Other than using A/B Repeat starting on measure 2, has anyone found a way to get the BR-800 to give the user a count-in measure or two?

Using the A/B Repeat method works however I found that when you restart the device, each instance of your loop is given a measure of silence before it repeats.

So far I haven't found any way to work around this and I'm not very happy about this idea where I might HAVE TO buy a pedal just do what should be included. Every other minor problem on this device is forgivable to me.

I also emailed Boss about it so we'll see how that goes.

[64Guitars]

I assume you're referring to the BR-800's loop recording feature. I don't have access to a BR-800 so I can't test this, but I would try using the auto punch-in feature (pages 46/47 of the BR-800 manual). Set DISP to Measure rather than Time so that you can specify measure 2 or 3 as the punch-in point. Use the metronome for your count-in, or the first measure of pattern P265:Cnty1 (see this message).

[pjd1]

If i can get youre, gist on this issue V99, to start recording on measure two, using step recording i put a basic measure in at the start for count in and then replace it with a break measure ( which is silence ) after i have recorded my take, is this what you are talking about ? then the song is played back without the count in bars at the start of the song .

Dunny