"Dreams" by The Allman Brothers

Started by Blooby, September 02, 2009, 07:03:11 PM

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To me, this sounds great!
Straight to the mp3 player!
Great cover!
Bravo

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Quote from: Blooby on September 04, 2009, 10:33:44 PMThe singer never skipped a beat and sang something like, "And now you just heard Bruce %ucking up!  Oh, how he's %ucking up." 

Perhaps his best vocal delivery of the night (baaa-ziiinngg!).

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Wow, Blooby, another winner here! ;D  The middle jam/solo section is BADASS.  The fact that you got louder at times is perfect for the dynamics of the song.  I agree, the drums are great, and if I didn't know they were electronic drums, I may never have guessed that.  I KNOW it helps with recording sessions!  E-drums are quite easy to record and already sound great "out of the box."  As for the overall mix, I don't think the whole thing is too thin.  I do the same thing with my mixes, as they often have a rumbly low annoying quality before cutting the very low frequencies across the board.  I agree that the bass itself could be a little beefier, though.  At what frequency did you roll off?  That said, the bass is still quite present and very CLEAR (something I struggle with), so nice work there.  I have one niggle, and that is the fact that the organ is too low for my taste.  It's barely noticeable most of the time.  Organ is a hard thing to mix, as there can be quite a fine line between too low and too loud in volume.  I often find that it's something you have to manually mix live during the bounce process, with your hand on the volume faders.  That's a minor gripe, though.  This is an awesome performance and a fantastic mix.

WELL DONE, SIR! ;D ;D
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Bosko, I really appreciate the fact that you take the time to comment with constructive criticism.  I welcome it because I'm at the point where niggling things to others truly help improve my mixes.

I don't expect everybody to get as jazzed as me about the live interplay among musicians in this post (The section from 4:45-5:00 is what I live for in music).  It's been well documented that I am an improvisation whore (If anybody else uses that term from now on, I expect royalties), but I'm always striving to create a better mix, so again, the comments are appreciated.

To answer your question, I can't remember what bass frequency I cut things off at.  I have to start taking notes in order to remember/get better.  I like how clear this mix ended up, but I agree with the somewhat anemic bass tone.  I do think that tone would work well in a more cluttered production, so I'll have to tuck that bit of information away for a rainy day.  As for the organ, I appreciate your input, but I love the fact that it fades in after the chorus several times as opposed to being omnipresent.  I have to wrestle with whether I want it louder.  Part of the issue is that our organ player rides a volume pedal much of the time.  The easiest thing for me to do I guess is do another mix with more organ (the burning organ?).  Like I said, I must mull.

Thank you, all, for your comments, and I apologize for lurking lately.  Between our school's School Improvement Plan and traveling out of town, I have been scarce.  As always, though, I find this site and its posts highly inspiring.

On the fun front, I played a $10,000 limited edition Larivee acoustic yesterday.  I got ticked at the salesmen for handing it it to me, for when he told me the price, I almost dropped it.  I assume that would have been a bad thing.

Blooby, i.w. (improvisation whore)




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WOW Blooby (Bruce?) !!

This is SOOOOOOO good !!! The production of this is superb, no it doesn't sound thin! It sounds great, even with the high compression level you must have used to cram this 7 min song in here!! (What encoder/settings do you use? )

Everything sits perfect in the mix, and the playing is impeccable !!!

You certainly have found the recipe for a tasty jam :)

You and that other guitarist supplement each other in a great way, your styles are quite similar, an you seem to have found a way to not go in eachothers way so to speak.

Love this one, piePod for sure !
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Quote from: Blooby on September 07, 2009, 07:35:24 PM(The section from 4:45-5:00 is what I live for in music).

To answer your question, I can't remember what bass frequency I cut things off at.  I have to start taking notes in order to get better.  I like how clear this mix ended up, but I agree with the somewhat anemic bass tone.  I do think that tone would work well in a more cluttered production, so I'll have to tuck that bit of information away for a rainy day.  As for the organ, I appreciate your input, but I love the fact that it fades in after the chorus several times as opposed to being omnipresent.  I have to wrestle with whether I want it louder.  Part of the issue is that our organ player rides a volume pedal much of the time.  The easiest thing for me to do I guess is do another mix with more organ (the burning organ?).  Like I said, I must mull.

That section is exactly (one example of) what I was referring to when I said, "The middle jam/solo section is BADASS.  The fact that you got louder at times is perfect for the dynamics of the song."

I take back my issues with the bass.  Upon listening with a better set of speakers, it's actually pretty thick.  That said, now I feel the kick drum should be louder.  It's always something, isn't it? :D  I hear you about the organ.  Maybe it's something that should come in waves.  And since he rides the volume pedal, he is basically deciding himself how present he wants it to be and when.  So your mix works.  Now that you say that, it's kind of cool to hear that organ creeping in every once in a while.

By the way, I should mention that the only reason I supply any type of constructive criticism at all is because the performance itself is so awesome that it is practically understood.  What you're trying to do is capture the best possible representation of the performance, and I know it's a challenge.  Something I could never do.  Live recordings are a whole different animal. 

You've done exceptionally well, here, and with your myriad other jam posts.

Well done! ;D
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Thanks again, Geir and Bosko.

To answer your question, Geir, I generally load my tunes into Magix's Audio Cleaning Lab (http://www.magix.com/us/audio-cleaning-lab/detail/).  I have been using the program for years and have upgraded three or four times.  I currently use version 12 or 13 (out of 15), and I think I got it for $25.00 American or so a couple years back.

I generally trim the file and encode it to MP3 along with boosting the overall levels and perhaps taming the bass through some EQing.  But the program also allows for fades, hiss reduction, crossfades, decrackling (for old records), import from aux inputs or CDs, compression, reverb, delays, and a host of other stuff.  It is not for multitrack recording.  Mostly, I'm just comfortable with the interface.

This one was a 96 kbs MP3, the lowest stereo setting the program will allow (and it just barely squeaked under 5 megabytes).

Peace.

Blooby

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Just outstanding work,I,m nowhere near this level of production all I can do is stand back and admire it. The ebb and flow is just great and the impro fits perfectly.
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Didn't want a new thread for this newer (and much faster) version of the tune. It begins in an odd way.  I think the term might be "dinkering around."

I think we landed on our feet with the solos (Everett first and then I'm on single coils), and the section from 4:45 to just past the beginning of the next chorus has a late-night quality to it. I was surprised how everything dropped out for the next vocal line.  Love that serendipity.

We've got a long way to go, but I think we're improving.  Check out the drummer's flourishes at 6:50 or so. Love how he plays around the kit so effortlessly in 3/4. He just kills me at times.

Cracks me up that we couldn't end it, and somebody chimes in with, "Yeah, that was about a million miles an hour."  Oh well.  Vocals and my guitar a bit too loud, but such is life.

Peace.

Blooby

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