"Dreams" by The Allman Brothers

Started by Blooby, September 02, 2009, 07:03:11 PM

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The boys got together again last night, the second time out with an additional singer.  We had tried the old Buddy Miles/Molly Hatchet version of "Dreams" a while back (https://songcrafters.org/community/br-1600-b69/museum-of-oddities-5-5-09/0/), but we always wanted to try the 3/4 time version of The Allman Brothers.  We butchered it once before-It might have been twice-but this is the first time we made it through the tune somewhat unscathed.

Still finding our feet.  The chorus sections are stiff, and much license is taken with the melody lines, but I think it ebbs and flows nicely in spots.  If nothing else, I'm enjoying the learning curve on how to record and mix these live living room jams.

Till next time.

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Mate, if I was listening to you guys do this in a bar I would be on my feet screaming for mare. Sounds great!! Still jealous of these jams you are having, she is very anti my music .... I have had a couple of offers over the last few years but no way :( Would love to be back in a band, or part of a regular jam group like this tho......

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Thank you for your comments and support.

Question: does this sound too thin?  I used some shelving EQ to cut everything below a certain bass frequency.  It helped to clean up the mix, but now I'm wondering if I also robbed it of some warmth.  I also have a habit of cranking vocals, but I know some people like it that way.  I guess I'm asking for comments on the overall mix.


I find it amusing how we sped up.  Yikes.

I was also wondering what some stray sounds were in the recording, and I realized it was me yelling out when to go back into the chorus several times.  I imagine it's what I would sound like had I gone through Janov's Primal Therapy.

Too funny.

Blooby

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Great!  This is a mighty clean live recording.  Were you just recording 2-track stereo off of a mixing board or were you inputting the individual instruments into your BR?  (or mics in the room?)  ie: I'm wondering how much control you have now to EQ individual instruments.... I probably wish you could fatten up the bass just a bit but really not complaining.  I don't think the mix sounds too thin.

Fine job on everyones playing and singing too!
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To answer your questions, Hooper, everything runs into to 8 discrete channels (vocal microphone, guitar, guitar, bass, stereo drums, organ, piano).  Each track has dedicated post EQ, post compression (tweaked from a universal setting), reverb level, pan, and of course levels (with sliders).  You can obviously bounce and do whatever, but I'm trying not to do that.  My main fit is fighting bleed from the vocal microphone (the only microphone as we abandoned background vocals and a sub-mixer for the time-being).  As the Samuel Adams Oktoberfest started to flow, we got louder, which in turned created problems later on.  Not a real biggie as I'm merely mixing down for the other guys to hear. I post them here because I value the feedback on the mixes.  Sometimes, though, it seems as though my mix preference just depends which way the wind is blowing.

On this recording, I had to redo the bass and got enamored of this ultra-clean compressed tone through the BR.  When I listened back to the full mix, I realized how much it didn't fit, but I was tired...and lazy...and too ticked to muck with it any further.  I also killed the bass by rolling off the low bass across the board. The mix cleaned up, but I sucked out what little life the bass had.

Thank you for the comments.

Blooby

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doesnt sound thin to me-good one blooby
i love those yam drums


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This is very good. Sounds a little swingier, which is cool. You could collect good money for this kind of live performance - I know it's not the intent, but a nice back pocket thing... I think the mix sounds great - The parts punch through individually. I think the bass could be raised up some, but I have bad headphones, so...

As far as speeding up, everybody does that... I used to play drums a little jamming with friends, and our bass player could actually force the tempo up 5 BPM or so within 3-4 minutes. I thought it was me, but on on particular occasion the designated singer(We used to trade off) looked at the bassist and sang in a sweet voice "Would you slow the f*ck doooooown?"  ;D


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fmgwabp  this doesnt sound thin blooby man i cant get my head round that this is a "live " recording. hats off to you guys. i'm on my feet with steve.
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Thanks, g, launched, and orh.  Yeah g, those drums really turned out to be a great investment.  The jams couldn't occur without them because things would get too loud with an acoustic set.  The drummer has seemed to have adapted well on them.  Initially, he balked, but I think he is acknowledging the results he is getting on them

Quote from: launched on September 03, 2009, 12:52:23 PMOn particular occasion the designated singer (We used to trade off) looked at the bassist and sang in a sweet voice "Would you slow the f*ck doooooown?"  ;D

I got something like that the other night.  We were playing "Badge," and I screwed up that little turnaround with the Leslie sound.  The singer never skipped a beat and sang something like, "And now you just heard Bruce %ucking up!  Oh, how he's %ucking up." 

Perhaps his best vocal delivery of the night (baaa-ziiinngg!).

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