CSN&Y's 4 + 20 covered by Jean Pierre on guitar and Cornee on vocals

Started by the physics teacher, February 13, 2024, 08:02:00 AM

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4+20 JP on guitar Corne on vocals
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Serveral month's ago I sang this song with Han on strumming guitar.
This week however Jean Pierre offered me his fingerpicking guitar track of the same song.
I recorded and mixed in Audacity and recorded my voice twice so no plugin was used.
Later I mixed my two voices to a stereo track oh and there is a bit of reverb on the voice and a wee bit less bass on the guitar and my voice a bit more treble.

I hope Jean Pierre will explain about the special tuning of his guitar.

Merci beaucoup JP.

Corné
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4y9R2ztGes
I do have an electric bass and guitar, i do have an acoustic guitar. I even have a keyboard and a Roland drum set What I seem to miss is skills. So to cure my at least 40y frustration I dicovered my instrument being my voice. So I finaly had the nerve to take singing lessons and make my voice heared thanks to Songcrafters.

StephenM

your vocals I love... the track sounds great... fantastic

I am so glad you are having fun in the experimentation of sounds and effects... it is so much fun... and endless possibilities... so many little "worlds" to explore.
 
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Jean Pierre

Well Corné I'm glad you're using my cover backtracks, it gives them a second life ;)

Quote[I hope Jean Pierre will explain about the special tuning of his guitar


I'll repeat here the explanation of Stephen Still's picking in this song

it's a very special open tuning EEEEBe called alos The Bruce Palmer tuning(in this case in my version it's down a tone so DDDDAD
so it's an open chord with the tonic (E) and the fifth (B)...but without a third, which gives it that ambiguous neither major nor minor feel.

vous pouvez lire cette note technique complete sur le Bruce Palmer tuning here
https://www.guitariste.com/guides/open-tunning-eeeebe-bruce-palmer,3172,1.html

In this song, as it's an arpeggio, you don't really realise it and for years (before all the information available on the internet)
I played it with a standard tuning ... but you realise it better when it's used in strumming, as in Judy Blue Eyes (which I also covered and which you can listen to here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg4FYrngvFk
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Mike_S

Great to hear this old classic era music being kept alive and well. Songcrafters is a great place for this.

Lovely performances... vocals are brilliant. Guitars sound very CSNY. Great stuff guys

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TPB

Always loved CSNY and most their songs well done to both of you
Tim
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cuthbert

Excellent vocals and guitar - well done, gentlemen. Also, I appreciate the open-tuning explanation from JP - very interesting.
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thetworegs

Excellent vocal and Beautiful playing an excellent collaboration
   
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Ted

Nice playing and singing – very "authentic" sounding in more ways than one: The vocal delivery has the weariness needed for the lyrics, and JP's playing sounds like he was raised on American folk.

Interesting story behind the song:

QuoteOn the highly-collaborative Déjà Vu album, "4 + 20" stands out as the only song which was both written and performed solo by one member of the band, justified by Crosby who recalled "We just said, 'It's too damn good, we're not touching it.'"

4 + 20 - Wikipedia


Not a big CSN/Y fan here, but I may be coming around.
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Ted

Digression: My daughter didn't start learning English until she was about 6, and she learned it from me. She's 11 now. She attends an English school in Madagascar, but none of the teachers are native English speakers. And because of me (and the Internet) my daughter speaks English better than her teachers.

So she has a physics teacher at her school. At the beginning of the school year, he would pronounce it FY-zicks instead of FIZZ-icks. She is too shy to correct her teacher's pronunciation. I said, "You just pronounce it correctly and see if he catches on."

A couple of weeks ago, she tells me, "Sometimes he says FIZZ-icks and sometimes he says FY-zicks.

Today she told me, "He doesn't say FY-zicks anymore."

I don't know any other physics teachers to whom I could tell that story.
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