Anyone care to discuss guitar effects patches?

Started by Sprocket, June 16, 2009, 02:18:55 PM

The Reverend 48

Quote from: Bluesberry on June 16, 2009, 02:36:29 PMI always find the gain set too high for my tastes and the mids scooped to low on most of the pre-set patches.  I don't have any patches saved at all.  I go at it as if I was plugging into an amp, I set the amp type first, shut off all effects, adjust the amp settings to my liking (gain, b, m, t, I always turn the mids up), then add effects if needed.  I approach it like I am plugging into an amp and setting up.  I never save it and the next time I set up according to what sounds good at the time.  Of course if I am working on a song I save the patch or write it down, but I really like to set up fresh each time according to my mood and the song I am working on.  That is my way.  I always start with the amp model first and work out from there each time.  It also depends on which guitar I am using (strat, Les Paul, Epi Sheraton).

I have messed with patches. :-[
but your way makes a lot of sense  8)
fire the amp up and add as you would with a real rig......Yeah I dig that!

Prive

I'm at work right now and no MBR with me to check but if i'm not in a mistake:
pressing effect you'll have "edit" at trk2, if you press it you'll have AMP settings at trk1 and SPEAKER at trk2, press it again and with cursor you can adjust some parameters like type of cabinet, fender style, vox style, marshall style, heavy metal stack and some more, there is a parameter about the distance between virtual microphone and virtual cabinet, like in real life the closer the mic the more presence in sound.
And here the 2 more important things in Speaker emulator section: you have to turn it ON of course at the first page and you have to values to adjust: Dir signal, is like line output from an amp (don't use it unless you need a sparkling clean guitar sound or if you are using a bass guitar) so here you have to adjust it to ZERO, i don't remember how MBR call the WET signal or Speaker signal, but 100 here is ok.
If anybody can double check for mistakes will be helpfull, in some hours when i'm at home i'll add some info.
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Sprocket

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Quote from: 48 on June 17, 2009, 07:06:02 AMbut your way makes a lot of sense  8)
fire the amp up and add as you would with a real rig......Yeah I dig that!

Im not saying his way doesnt make sense...but I treat the user patches as amps that I own, last time I played that amp the knobs were left in this position...only maybe today I hear too much of X and might want more Y...saving a patch doesnt etch it in stone, but it does give a place to revisit...and after awhile youll have alot of tools you can use, in a handy place where youll know where to find them in a moments notice, when ever the mood strikes you.

Prive, thanks for your reply...thats an area Im not too familiar, so thanks! I will look into that and experiment. If you can think of anything more Im deffinately interested!

Im still a lil clueless in regards to compression and noise suppresion  :-\

Greeny

I think we're pretty lucky having a digital recorder as good as the BR, and a full range of excellent Boss guitar effects to choose from. Compared to my old Tascam (which was pretty good), the Boss patches and models are incredible. Apart from an octaver and auto-wah, it's got pretty much everything I need covered. I have to say that I've never tampered with the patch settings - I just choose the sounds I'm after and play my song. I do tend to return to my old favourites though, and a lot of the 'metal' patches are wasted on me. My only fiddling comes with getting the right balance between the guitar's volume control and the BR's input volume to achieve the sound I want. I should spend longer on tone etc, but it detracts from the thrill of getting songs down fast and instinctively (for me, anyway).

The Reverend 48

Quote from: Sprocket on June 17, 2009, 12:00:14 PM
Quote from: 48 on June 17, 2009, 07:06:02 AMbut your way makes a lot of sense  8)
fire the amp up and add as you would with a real rig......Yeah I dig that!

Im not saying his way doesnt make sense...but I treat the user patches as amps that I own, last time I played that amp the knobs were left in this position...only maybe today I hear too much of X and might want more Y...saving a patch doesnt etch it in stone, but it does give a place to revisit...and after awhile youll have alot of tools you can use, in a handy place where youll know where to find them in a moments notice, when ever the mood strikes you.

Prive, thanks for your reply...thats an area Im not too familiar, so thanks! I will look into that and experiment. If you can think of anything more Im deffinately interested!

Im still a lil clueless in regards to compression and noise suppresion  :-\

Sorry I didn't make myself clear...once I have started from scratch and found a sound I like I will be saving it...like fendery ;)

Sprocket

Quote from: Prive on June 17, 2009, 11:33:30 AMI'm at work right now and no MBR with me to check but if i'm not in a mistake:
pressing effect you'll have "edit" at trk2, if you press it you'll have AMP settings at trk1 and SPEAKER at trk2, press it again and with cursor you can adjust some parameters like type of cabinet, fender style, vox style, marshall style, heavy metal stack and some more, there is a parameter about the distance between virtual microphone and virtual cabinet, like in real life the closer the mic the more presence in sound.
And here the 2 more important things in Speaker emulator section: you have to turn it ON of course at the first page and you have to values to adjust: Dir signal, is like line output from an amp (don't use it unless you need a sparkling clean guitar sound or if you are using a bass guitar) so here you have to adjust it to ZERO, i don't remember how MBR call the WET signal or Speaker signal, but 100 here is ok.
If anybody can double check for mistakes will be helpfull, in some hours when i'm at home i'll add some info.

Wow, thanks Prive!
Those two tid bits are just what I needed to dial in my patches...soooo much more pleasant and useful now.
Thanks again!