NEILFEST -Cortez the Killer (condensed)

Started by galestermusic, June 10, 2009, 09:01:06 PM

Satchwood

Sounds great to me lestg!!  Another NY tune I've never heard before....

           I think Bluesberry summed it nicely!!
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QuoteHey Jim! Not sure what that means, lol hope its good lol

"gaun yersel son"  is something we scots say when someone does really well it translates as go on yourself but means well done that man. for instance in baseball you could shout it when someone scores a home run.
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Quote from: LESTG on June 11, 2009, 12:54:43 PMQuestion to 64guitars, if I want to "back track" on the orginal  bounced tracks I could go name them and delete what I wanted or change what I need as long as I specify the track and then rebounce it?

I'm not sure if I understand the question entirely. The Micro BR provides no way to name tracks, so I'm not sure what you mean by "I could go name them". As for deleting tracks, you can do that with the Track Erase function described on pages 56/57 of the Micro BR manual, 3rd edition. However, there's usually no need to erase any tracks since you have 32 available and there should be plenty of empty tracks among them most of the time. By keeping your old tracks and mixes, you can later compare them to the new tracks and mixes. So don't erase tracks needlessly.

You can certainly go back to your previous tracks and remix them. Just go to the VTrack screen and set the v-tracks back to your previous tracks. Then go into Bounce Mode and set the bounce destination to any empty pair of tracks.

For example, suppose you've recorded six tracks and bounced twice.

Track:  1234
v1     
v2     
v3     
v4     
v5     
v6     
v7      B2   B2   □    □   
v8      B1   B1   □    □   

So, after recording Tr1v1, Tr2v1, Tr3v1, and Tr4v1, you bounced them to Tr1v8 and Tr2v8. Then you recorded more stuff on Tr3v2 and Tr4v2 while monitoring the mix of your first four tracks on Tr1v8 and Tr2v8. Finally, you bounced those four tracks (Tr1v8, Tr2v8, Tr3v2, and Tr4v2) to Tr1v7 and Tr2v7. At this point, the VTrack screen would look like this:

VTrack ■□□□□□■■ <
  V7  V7  V3  V3


Now, suppose that you've decided you're not happy with the mix of the first four tracks. No problem. Simply go to the Vtrack screen and use the VALUE -/+ buttons and the track buttons (or cursor <>) to change the four v-track values to V1, so that the VTrack screen will look like this:

VTrack ■□□□□□■■ <
  V1  V1  V1  V1


If you zero the counter and press Play, you'll hear a mix of your first four tracks. Now go into Bounce Mode and set the bounce destination (top line at the right) to 12V6. These two tracks are empty so you should see two empty boxes to the right. After the bounce, the VTrack screen should look like this:

VTrack ■□□□□■■■ <
  V6  V6  V3  V3


Now, lets assume that you're happy with the new mix of the first four tracks and you're also happy with your previous recordings on Tr3v2 and Tr4v2. You can now redo the final mix to include all six tracks. Set the VTrack screen values so that they look like this:

VTrack ■□□□□■■■ <
  V6  V6  V2  V2


So, the four currently-selected v-tracks are the revised mix on 12V6 and the two previous tracks on 34V2. You can now go into Bounce Mode and set the destination to 12V5 which is still empty. After the bounce, your track status should look something like this (which you can view in the BR Wave Converter or BR Explorer):

Track:  1234
v1     
v2     
v3     
v4     
v5      B4B4
v6      B3B3
v7      B2   B2   □    □   
v8      B1   B1   □    □   

Notice that we have the two revised mixes (B3 and B4) as well as the two original mixes (B1 and B2) because we didn't erase any tracks. This gives you the option of comparing the mixes. To hear the original final mix, go into the VTrack screen and set it like this:

VTrack ■□□□■■■■ <
  V7  V7  V3  V3


Then set the counter to 00:00:00 and press Play.

To hear the revised final mix, go into the VTrack screen and set it like this:

VTrack ■□□□■■■■ <
  V5  V5  V3  V3


Again, set the counter to 00:00:00 and press Play.

In both cases, I set tracks 3 and 4 to V3 because they're still empty. That way, we'd only hear the mix on tracks 1 and 2. But you can choose any empty pair of v-tracks for tracks 3 and 4. Or, you could leave 3 and 4 on a previously-recorded pair of v-tracks and simple lower their track levels to minimum so you don't hear them on playback. Selecting empty v-tracks is probably easier though.

I hope that answers your question.

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galestermusic

Anothe Printer 64! LOL yes I was trying to ask if I could go back and change things, this pretty much answered my question.

Jim thank very much sir!

Have a rythm question for anyone. If I'm playing say 4 measures at 4/4 time and the 5th and 6th measure go to 3/4 time and then back to 4/4 time on the 7th. and son. Will it mess my rythm up as only thing available on MBR is 4/4.


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Quote from: LESTG on June 11, 2009, 04:24:06 PMHave a rythm question for anyone. If I'm playing say 4 measures at 4/4 time and the 5th and 6th measure go to 3/4 time and then back to 4/4 time on the 7th. and son. Will it mess my rythm up as only thing available on MBR is 4/4.

Ted posted a message on that very topic earlier today. Here's a link to it:

https://songcrafters.org/community/micro-br/how-to-create-and-insert-non-44-drum-patterns-with-the-micro-br/0/

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Greeny

Nice work - and that's a hell of a vocal for a first attempt! The guitars are spot on. I'd take the drums down a notch to leave more space for the guitars and vocals, but this is a great piece of work. The panning and stuff will come with time.

Ted

Why didn't I know about this song while attending Cortez High School from 1976 to 1981?  I was always looking for ways to put shame upon my alma mater.
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Blooby

Excellent job.  Slower tempo songs are always harder to pull off, and you do a great job with this cover.  I'm with Ferryman on this one as I agree the drums are a bit distractingly, and your voice could be louder.  That being said, it's great as it stands.  I love how the liltiing guitars are contrasted with the lead that pops up from time to time.

Inspired and inspiring.

Blooby

Saijinn Maas

I've never really been a fan of NY. Don't know what it is... This is one of the few song of his that I know by name, and I have to say... This is pretty damn good!

I too think the vox need to be brought up in the mix a bit, but I think if you lowered the drums a bit, you find that you don't have to mess with the vox TOO much.

Loved all the guitar work. Good tone and excellent feel. ;)