Foo Fighters - Everlong cover.

Ferryman_1957 · June 09, 2009, 04:28:38 PM

Good job on this one, glad you're trying the vox as well. When you were recording on TR3V3 and TR4V3, keep tracks 1 and 2 on the tracks you want to hear. You don't need all of them set to V3. Remember you are only recording on one or two tracks at any time, so you can play back the other tracks to give you something to play over. The individual tracks are independent, eg you can be recording on T1v8 while playing back T2v2, T3v5 and T4v6, or any combination.

Cheers,

Nigel

galestermusic · June 09, 2009, 08:49:16 PM

Nigel I really apreciate the help...just so I'm clear on this....

1. Record my first 4 tracks TR1 TR2 TR3 TR4 and these are all V1.

2. Do the Bounce and by default the Micro BR will "submix" every thing to TR1 and TR2.

3. When I put the next track down be sure I have V2 on TR3 and TR4 selected. Record what I need to TR3 and then TR4 while hearing the playback.

4. Bounce one of TR3V2 and TR4v2 or both.

5. Set TR3 and TR4 to V3 and V4 and so on...

Guess my confusion is the default thing, so I don't have to ever mess with on and two when doing the bouncing it defaults to TR1V1 and TR2V2, this about covers it? LOL

Thanks again.

Greg

Sprocket · June 09, 2009, 09:00:08 PM

Very nice, I even like the drum track...care to share the secret to that?
Or was it difficult to program it?

Do you play yours in drop D or standard tuning?

galestermusic · June 09, 2009, 09:53:06 PM

Yeah its drop D. Meant to comment on the drum aspect. WOW WOW WOW! LOL Lesson number one..write everything down. This was a very hard thing to program...my only complaint with micro BR. I wish I new how to use Audacity or things like that. Was a pain. The secret to prgramming it was what sounded good where. I started at very young age playing drums. While I haven't set behind a kit in a very long time (probably wouldn't know what to do now) that thought process stays with me. Again I can't emphasize enough write it all down, I didn't and got really lost.

Incidently, while trying to figure out where I messed up in the bouncing, I trashed the raw file. Thank god I have the MP3!

Now I'm doing a neilfest song. I think it will be very cool!

Later!

64Guitars · June 09, 2009, 11:02:58 PM

Quote from: LESTG on June 09, 2009, 08:49:16 PMGuess my confusion is the default thing, so I don't have to ever mess with on and two when doing the bouncing it defaults to TR1V1 and TR2V2, this about covers it? LOL

Don't worry about default values, Greg. They're unimportant. Instead, learn how to specify which v-tracks you want to use.

When Bounce Mode is selected, the Micro BR will record the mix of the four currently-selected v-tracks to the pair of v-tracks that you specify as the destination.

So, what are the four currently-selected v-tracks? Well, when you create a new song, they are Tr1v1, Tr2v1, Tr3v1, and Tr4v1. But, after each bounce, they will change. To find out which four v-tracks are currently selected at any time, press any track button [TR1]-[TR4], then press the cursor right button multiple times until you get past the Track Level, Track Pan, and Track Reverb screens and come to the VTrack screen which looks like this:

VTrack ■□□□□□□□ <
V1 V1 V1 V1

The second line ("V1 V1 V1 V1") is telling you that v-track 1 is selected on all four tracks. So, if we were to perform a bounce now, it would record Tr1v1, Tr2v1, Tr3v1, and Tr4v1 to the destination tracks we specify. The top line shows you the status of the eight v-tracks that make up the selected track (indicated with an underscore on the second line, which is TR1 in this example). Darkened squares represent v-tracks that have already been recorded (only V1 so far in this example). Empty squares represent v-tracks that are empty and still available for recording or as bounce destinations (V2-V8 in the example). You can change the current v-track selection for the currently-selected track (TR1 in this case) by pressing the VALUE -/+ buttons. To change the v-track selection for a different track, simply press the track button ([TR1]-[TR4]) or use the cursor buttons to select the track, then change the v-track with the VALUE -/+ buttons. Or, if you don't want to change the current v-track selections, just press [EXIT] to return to the Play screen.

When you first select Bounce Mode, the screen looks something like this:

001-1-00 12V2□□
00:00:00-00.0 <

The destination of the bounce is shown at the top-right. In this example, it is set to Tr1v2 and Tr2v2 ("12V2"). The empty squares to the right show that these two v-tracks are currently empty, which is very important to know. If the squares were darkened and you continued with the bounce, you'd overwrite whatever was recorded on those two v-tracks. Notice that the cursor is under the "12" of "12V2". By pressing the VALUE -/+ buttons, you can change the destination track(s). You'll normally want a pair of tracks, so that limits your choices to either "12" or "34". It really doesn't matter which pair you choose.

Now, here comes the important part which you seem to be missing. If you press the cursor right button, the cursor will move to the "2" to the right of the "V".

001-1-00 12V2□□
00:00:00-00.0 <

This is the destination v-track and you can change it by pressing the VALUE -/+ buttons. As you change the v-track, the two squares at the right will be updated to show whether those v-tracks are currently empty or not. You can choose any pair of v-tracks that are empty. Most people just choose the next pair that are empty. I prefer to choose v-track 8 for my bounce destinations and work down from there for any subsequent bounces. This makes it much easier to determine which tracks contain mixes and which contain the individual base tracks when you're using the BR Wave Converter. See this message.

Lets say that you recorded to Tr1v1, Tr2v1, Tr3v1, and Tr4v1, then bounced those to Tr12v8. If you then went into the VTrack screen as I described above, it would look like this:

VTrack ■□□□□□□■ <
V8 V8 V2 V2

Tr1v8 and Tr2v8 contain the mix from the bounce, and Tr3v2 and Tr4v2 are empty (the Micro BR automatically selects the bounce destination v-tracks plus the next two empty v-tracks). You could now record something else on tracks 3 and 4 while monitoring the mix from tracks 1 and 2. Then you could bounce those four v-tracks (Tr1v8, Tr2v8, Tr3v2, and Tr4v2) to any empty pair of v-tracks. Following my convention, I'd choose Tr1v7 and Tr2v7 as the bounce destination. The screen would look like this:

001-1-00 12V7□□
00:00:00-00.0 <

After the bounce, the Vtracks screen would look like this:

VTrack ■□□□□□■■ <
V7 V7 V3 V3

If I pressed Play, I'd hear the mix from Tr1v7 and Tr2v7, and nothing from Tr3v3 and Tr4v3 (because they are empty). So, I could now record something else on tracks 3 and 4 while monitoring the mix from tracks 1 and 2.

And so on...

Give it a try. Once you've done it a couple of times, it's really quite easy.

Just remember:

Before you start a bounce, make sure you know which four v-tracks are currently selected. They will be the source tracks for your bounce. If you're not sure, check the VTracks screen.
When you enter Bounce Mode, set the destination track pair to any empty v-track pair, as indicated by the two squares at the right of the top line.
Always set the MasterLevel properly before starting the bounce. This is your recording level.
You can change the four currently selected v-tracks at any time via the VTrack screen. For example, if you bounced Tr1v1, Tr2v1, Tr3v1, and Tr4v1 to Tr12v8 but you weren't happy with the mix, you could go into the VTrack screen and set all the tracks back to V1, then try another bounce.