Two Micro BR's -Infinite Tracks (?)

Started by OsCKilO, May 20, 2009, 03:57:19 PM

Geir

Quote from: Kody on May 20, 2009, 05:23:12 PMYeah that would work!! Plus it would be cool if everyone in your band had an MBR!
You could even jam over the phone and each of you record the session with the mbr!!!

Beatles as far as I remember hooked two 4-track tape-recorders to have enough track to make the masterpiece Sgt. Pepper. Zappa had a 5-track studio when the standard was mono ....

The sky's the limit, but maybe not for you!!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote from: Geir on May 20, 2009, 05:13:26 PMso you knew 'bout the Beatles  :)


Not until launched told Us.....!

Now we are as keen as ever to go back in time!!!!!!

Quote from: Kody on May 20, 2009, 05:23:12 PMPlus it would be cool if everyone in your band had an MBR!


I think that two would be the maximum, and most cost effective way of doing this!

This is like the scanner darkly Conversation.......isn't it...


Bloody beatles again!!!!!!!!!!

They think of everything!!!!!!

But not infinity recording!!!!!!!!!


Ha ha ha hA ha ha Ha (Best evil laugh I could do)!!!!!

 
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Did they Do Norweigian Wood too.....?!?!

Damn them!

Damn them straight to hell!!!! ;D
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64Guitars

I hate to rain on your parade osckilo, but the method you described offers no advantages over bouncing. In fact, it has a couple of disadvantages.

With bouncing, your tracks are always recorded digitally. But with your method, you're using the analog line output to feed the analog line input of the second Micro BR. So, every time you record from one machine to the other, the signal is converted from digital to analog, then from analog to digital. Because of the sound quality of the Micro BR, you might not notice the slight signal degradation but it is occuring. And it will be compounded each time you copy from machine to machine.

If you use the Micro BR's drum machine, you'll have a problem with synchronization between the machines.

Another obvious disadvantage is the fact that you need two Micro BRs and some cables.

You mentioned deleting the first four tracks after the mix is copied to the second machine. Why? The Micro BR has 32 tracks, so why not use all of them? Instead of erasing the first four tracks, you could simply use four of the 28 remaining empty tracks. That way, your original tracks are preserved in case you later decide to remix them.

I think you should take the time to learn about v-tracks and bouncing. It's not difficult. In fact, the process is very similar to your method except that it's all done within one Micro BR. The Micro BR has 32 tracks but can only play back four at a time because of the built-in 4-channel mixer. So, you can record an infinite number of tracks by doing four at a time then bouncing them to another pair of tracks and recording two more. Then you can bounce those four to another pair and record two more, and so on. When you've used all 32 tracks, you can record over the earlier tracks. So, there's no limit to how many tracks you can record using only a single Micro BR and bouncing.

See these messages:

https://songcrafters.org/community/micro-br/trimming-the-length-of-a-song/msg22191/#msg22191

https://songcrafters.org/community/micro-br-b65/gossip-liars-andcheats-1st-song-t2763/msg24783/#msg24783

and this web page:

http://www.geocities.com/sixtyfourguitars/BossBr/Tutorials/V-Tracks_and_Bouncing.html

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SdC

64guitars explaint it perfectly as usual.
Because you don't delete any tracks when you use v-tracks, you can later boost up parts from v-tracks you have already mixed in a previous mix. Or you can export all parts separately to a pc and do a final mix in audigy or other DAW.




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As always, 64 is right. Anytime you take a signal and make it analog, you're adding noise and usually distortion. I have bounced a track 7 times on the micro just to see what happens. It's as clean as the first.

And is would just be a lot easier to do inside the micro.

Kevin

OsCKilO

Oh..........

I see....... :-[

Where is that receipt......? ;D


Looks cool anyway!

We did find it a lot quicker do this rather than bounce though. It stops that pause in your jam to bounce the track.... Just feels like the process flows better....


All the points are taken on board though and agreed with.

We feel that 64 Knows best! 8)

Does this mean we cant go back in time any more........? :'(

Peace

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64Guitars

Quote from: osckilo on May 21, 2009, 10:10:15 AMWe did find it a lot quicker do this rather than bounce though. It stops that pause in your jam to bounce the track.... Just feels like the process flows better....

Using bounce mode, you record the mix of the four currently-selected v-tracks to an empty pair of v-tracks in real time. Optionally, you can record the input with this mix too.

Using two Micro BRs, you record the mix of the four currently-selected v-tracks to the second Micro BR. Optionally, you can record the input with this mix too.

I don't see how bouncing interrupts the flow of your jam any more than copying between machines would. The process is basically the same. Only the destination is different.

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