Doing it wrong.

Started by henry b, May 08, 2009, 03:21:39 PM

henry b

Trying to get to grips with my BR600 , tonight I tried using the mike as well as the guitar and drums ..when I played through the machine the noise of the guitar was not the JC sound but something more distorted, any suggestions as to what I,m doing daft..

SdC

First of all, check what effects were active (when you change Input signal, the FX setting changes automatically, for instance from "GTR:JC Clean" to "VO+GTR:....")

If that's not it, you should also check the recording level before you start recording.
Switch to the level-bar display (from the start screen (time/tempo), press the "down" button) and check the two level meters all the way to the left (input signal). These should not come all the way up when you play+sing. Use the dials on the left to adjust down. The peak lights by those dials should not light up at all.




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Quote from: SdC on May 08, 2009, 04:17:05 PMyou should also check the recording level before you start recording.

Ditto. And, that's all I got.
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henry b

Quote from: BossMicroBRew on May 08, 2009, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: SdC on May 08, 2009, 04:17:05 PMyou should also check the recording level before you start recording.

Ditto. And, that's all I got.
Thanks guys I did see the vo+gtr thing , how do I put it right, I,ll check the manual and try and make some sense out of it..regards

SdC

I've only had the BR-600 for a couple of weeks now, and -for me- that is the greatest problem with it: after creating a new song, there's TONS of FX on all inputs and tracks. The boss engineers must be thinking everybody likes the same noodle soup.  I'm the kind of person that likes to start from a ZERO position and build up the sound from there; I don't want to have to spend all that time switching it all off first.




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henry b

Quote from: SdC on May 08, 2009, 04:17:05 PMFirst of all, check what effects were active (when you change Input signal, the FX setting changes automatically, for instance from "GTR:JC Clean" to "VO+GTR:....")

If that's not it, you should also check the recording level before you start recording.
Switch to the level-bar display (from the start screen (time/tempo), press the "down" button) and check the two level meters all the way to the left (input signal). These should not come all the way up when you play+sing. Use the dials on the left to adjust down. The peak lights by those dials should not light up at all.

OK, thats what I want to put right ,I was on the JC sound but it changes to an unwanted noise ,I can play guitar on its own or the Mic on its own but not both at the same time. Where am I going wrong please.

64Guitars

Quote from: henry b on May 11, 2009, 06:27:39 AMI can play guitar on its own or the Mic on its own but not both at the same time. Where am I going wrong please.

To record from the Guitar input and the Mic input at the same time, you have to simultaneously press the [GUITAR] and [MIC] input buttons (see page 36 of the BR-600 manual, 4th edition). This should automatically select the SIMUL patch bank where you can choose from 50 preset patches designed for vocals and guitar (see pages 55, 92, 93, 100, and 206 for more on SIMUL mode).


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henry b

Thanks 64 I,ll give it an other go to-morrow.

The Reverend 48

Quote from: SdC on May 09, 2009, 05:18:46 AMI've only had the BR-600 for a couple of weeks now, and -for me- that is the greatest problem with it: after creating a new song, there's TONS of FX on all inputs and tracks. The boss engineers must be thinking everybody likes the same noodle soup.  I'm the kind of person that likes to start from a ZERO position and build up the sound from there; I don't want to have to spend all that time switching it all off first.
Up until now I have not returned all the loop effects back to zero is that why my recordings on the '600 always sound not right ???
If so I am the biggest BR numpty in the world :-[ :-[ :-[
Ahh Well....It sounds a dam sight better now ;D ;D ;D

64Guitars

Quote from: SdC on May 09, 2009, 05:18:46 AMI've only had the BR-600 for a couple of weeks now, and -for me- that is the greatest problem with it: after creating a new song, there's TONS of FX on all inputs and tracks. The boss engineers must be thinking everybody likes the same noodle soup.  I'm the kind of person that likes to start from a ZERO position and build up the sound from there; I don't want to have to spend all that time switching it all off first.

I agree that the best way to create an effects patch is to start with everything turned off. Then select a preamp and speaker combination and adjust the preamp's parameters to your liking. Once you have an amp/speaker sound you like, then you can turn on the desired effects (one at a time) and adjust their settings.

It makes sense if you think about it. I mean, if you had a real guitar amp and a bunch of pedals, you'd do the same thing. You wouldn't try to adjust the amp settings while all of the effects pedals are switched on, would you? You need to start with just the amp, then add effects one at a time to build up the sound you're after. Although, you may need to go back to the amp settings and make a few adjustments to compensate for tone changes caused by the pedals.

An easy way to always start with everything turned off is to turn everything off once, then save the patch in the User patch bank. Then, whenever you want to create a new patch, you can just load the "ALL OFF" User patch (or whatever you want to call it), make your amp/speaker/effects settings, then save it to another Song or User patch location and give it a suitable name.

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