using the MBR as a monitor?

Started by Glenn Mitchell, April 20, 2009, 07:48:54 PM

Glenn Mitchell

I'm in a band with 11 others and we are having monitor problems at gigs.
Not enough channels for one but the result is I am usually left with a bad blend at the gig or no sound from the members I need to hear.
The master mixer can give me the final output ending at a 1/4" jack and I can wear a head set or buds to hear it but need a volume control at my end.
I though I'd try the MBR for that, just as I would monitor my guitar.
Any problems you can see?
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Pedro

Don't forget you have to turn off auto shut first. There is no problem I can see but there are other solutions. If volume is all you want to control even a simple resistance potenciometer would do the job.

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The new Roland M-48 Live Personal Mixer was designed to allow each musician to control his own mix.

See video and product info at http://lib2.roland.co.jp/rec/RSG/en/M-48/index.html


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No doubt it's overkill in your case and way too expensive, but it's nice to dream about. Maybe if you sell lots of t-shirts and CDs at your gigs?  ;)

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M48Mixer/


If you only want to control the overall volume to your headphones or ear buds, an inexpensive inline volume control would do the trick:

http://store.shure.com/store/shure/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.104991600

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Koss-VC20-Inline-Headphone-Volume-Control-245214-i1126253.gc

Of course, these will only attenuate the signal, not boost it. So you'll have to make sure that your feed from the mixer is loud enough for your needs.

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Glenn Mitchell

Thanks for that. Yes the M-48 is perfect and I actually asked for that precise functionality not knowing it exists but it's probably out of the budget for the short term at least..
The attenuators might work and they are nice and small but wouldn't the MBR provide both boost and cut options? That was what I was hoping for.
We are going to try it at the  practice next Sunday in any case.
If it works I might put Velcro on the back and stick it to  my guitar Lol.
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Geir

Quote from: M_Glenn_M on April 21, 2009, 12:10:31 AMIf it works I might put Velcro on the back and stick it to  my guitar Lol.
Or you could buy the Boss BA-M-BR Micro BR Case and put it on your guitarstrap or in your belt.

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Quote from: M_Glenn_M on April 21, 2009, 12:10:31 AMThe attenuators might work and they are nice and small but wouldn't the MBR provide both boost and cut options? That was what I was hoping for.

Yes, the Micro BR should do the job. The Line Input will probably be the best match for the mixer feed, so you'll need some adapters. Is the mixer output stereo or mono? Check the input reverb send levels. I believe the Line In defaults to 0, which is what you'll want. But the guitar input defaults to 15. And, you'll need to adjust the input sensitivity so that the OVER indicator doesn't light to avoid distortion. If it still lights with the sensitivity at minimum, then you'll have to reduce the mixer output.

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Glenn Mitchell

Excellent tips thanks for those. I have dozens of adapters collected over the years so that won't be a problem. I'll be sure to check on the stereo vs mono.
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hewhoiscalledj

you mean you havent developed ESP with your mates yet? LOL... we've overcome the monitor issue thru sheer determination and practice. somehow even improv situations work out in the end... just have to move around the stage as necessary to hear what needs to be heard...

and for pete's sake, just crank everyone up really loud. it worked for the Sex Pistols!

Glenn Mitchell

We have 12 in the band, 4 of which are horns. My unfortunate position is right beside the lead horn on one side, in front of the drums and beside the bass on the other. Can't hear myself think. And yes I'm cranked up.
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