we will dance out on the streets : full mix : this song is dedicated to the 45%

[kenny mac]

Lol  you too.

[SE]

A scot met would be so cool and we could make a tune we  all could  lov

[kenny mac]

    

[Oldrottenhead]

no politics tho.

[SE]

No politics  just  music the best!!!! Cool as fu##ck

[Jarle]

Peace and love to my friends in Scotland.

It is a great song James. This time I think I like the acoustic version best. I don't know why but it might have something to do with the melancholy in your vocal.

[Hook]

Turned out nice brother, you threw it out there and it stuck!
Rock On!

[Oldrottenhead]

hi kenny a lot of relection has led me to agree with you re: the 45% stuff going on and the division it could cause. i am still proud to be one of the 45% but have disassociated myself from the 45% movement. i read a recent article of how we can come together is on facebook but difficult to share here, but ive sent you the link.

however i think it is the duty of everyone who voted either yes or no, to hold the leaders in westminster to their "vow" of devolving further powers to scotland as they promised in the last few days of the referendum.

anyway sorry to all the others here about all the politics of late, i'm sure i've pissed lots of you off, but i can't help writing songs about what i am feeling.

like i said the last two years have been invigorating and empowering.

but i'll try and get back to writing love songs asap.

[AndyR]

You keep doing what you have to do, Jim

I have to admit, I did have to mute you on twitter during Thursday morning cos you were upsetting me too much.

I'm not a Yes or a No voter. I'm one of the English who felt rather disenfranchised by this entire episode, and who felt we had to keep quiet as possible because it wasn't our decision, even though it affected our future... we felt like helpless victims.

Sod all of the politicians and media, WE did not want you to go, but we didn't feel we could say anything.

Then, something absolutely terrifying happened to many of us in the last week or two. We all as individuals realised how we were going to turn on you if we woke up to a yes on Friday...

Most of us are and always have been "Come one, come all, everyone's welcome in the small melting-pot called the UK... But why on earth do a bunch of our brothers and sisters, these Scottish dudes, seem to hate us so much? They're in the same boat we are, they have been since hundreds of years before I was born... Oh well, life goes on..."

But last week... I, many colleagues, friends, and acquaintances found something out about ourselves and how we really felt...

We didn't want you to go, but if you did, we knew we were all going to get nasty, VERY quickly... and it really upset us.

I have no idea how our (English) politicians would have dealt with it, but it wouldn't have mattered a bugger what they'd promised or wanted themselves... we found that "us", the folks whose votes they rely on, the English man and woman on the street, would have turned on all things Scottish immediately. I don't "do" political, I don't go on marches and shit - but I would have attended the English people's demonstrations of disappointment, disgust, hatred, etc... that would have flowed from a yes. It would have been very important to us that our leaders fully appreciated that we wanted the newly departed Scotland royally screwed until the pips squeaked...

We had some very soul-searching discussions in our office about it all over the last week or two. Every one of us didn't like how we felt and how we felt we would have to act, but every one of us would have been demanding deportations, recall of British passports immediately, get our currency out of "their f*ing hands", etc, etc... (I even realised things like I'd probably have to leave songcrafters if you were to remain involved and posting about independence achieved)

It was that bad, it was depressing and upsetting that we felt like that and that we were powerless to do ANYTHING at all until you guys had decided. A friend of mine pointed out on Tuesday or Wednesday that, if we had a vote, at that moment you'd have been cut off and thrown out of the UK faster than your feet could touch the ground.

But none of us felt we could express any of this out loud because it "wasn't our business", and, well... expressing it wouldn't have helped none.

At 6:09 on Friday morning I wept tears of relief and joy. My wife had to hold me for 5 minutes before I could pull myself together enough to run for my bus.

At work, all day, and wandering around, looking at other commuters, etc, etc - there was a new look of hope, a weight off our shoulders. It was: "we won't have to go to war over this (that's how bad it had felt), this crappy little kingdom (which none of us had realised how much we love) was still intact."

The thing is, we're English, it'll soon look like we've forgotten this feeling of relief and joy, just through getting on with life. We won't have forgotten it, we just won't be showing it 24x7 for the next x years (or even weeks, I'm guessing).

Jim - ignore the politicians, yours, ours... ignore the stoopid f*ing media... It's not their fault, but the very nature of their jobs turns them into complete twats. Instead think of this: WE, below the border, LOVE you guys like you are US. We don't understand why you don't/can't feel the same, we never have, not in my lifetime, but we still love you anyway.

This could still go horribly tits-up (especially with idiots like Friday night - don't worry, we saw it down here, we didn't need loads of details or in-depth coverage, we understood it and hate it)... BUT, I've still got the feeling of hope I had Friday morning, good could come of this... we might be about to get something we ALL want in the UK - although I'm entirely buggered if I know what it might be or how the details might get worked out...

LASTLY, Jim, I hope it's OK having typed this stuff out and then posted it. I think it's really important that you hear how an ordinary Englishman was thinking and feeling, and what he was fearing. I haven't seen this shit reported anywhere - I have a feeling everyone's afraid to say it. One of the "reliefs" of Friday morning for me was that we wouldn't have to say it after all. Maybe it can't reported, maybe it can only be said in the context of friendships/relationships?

Jim, we love you guys, and what we are together, SO much so, that breaking it would have been inconceivably bad... the well-meaning idiots in Westminster, those afraid of losing their jobs over the slightest belch, wouldn't have been your problem, it would have been the rest of us who haven't really said anything yet... The events of the last few weeks might have made it possible for us to speak, if we can see any point in doing so... but I dunno... we tend to do what we're told most of the time... and I guess we'll soon forget how strongly we felt...

I don't know how to end this...

Probably, borrowing from another of my favourite online people, it should be:

PEACE BRO

(Oh, and, on topic, I LOVE the acoustic version of this song - for me, it says it far more powerfully)

[Oldrottenhead]

Andy the last thing the referendum was about ws any dislike of our brothers and sisters throughout these fair isles. It was about a disenfranchised people powerless to stop a government pursuing policies we see  as heartless. The weakest and most vulnerable suffering as a direct result of these policies.
Up here we have concerns for those fell on hard times and is societies duty to offer a helping hand. Personally I would most  likely have been worse off but in a nation as rich as ours I can,t stand by and see the most vulnerable taking the brunt of austerity policies. As you may know I work in the frontline of social care and daily see the gut wrenching results of these policies and feel helpless and hopeless. The people carrying out these policies seem oblivious to the devastation and heartbreak they cause. Economically if we were richer or poorer I honestly believe they would have been taken care of. We dreamed of showing our brothers and sisters an alternative way of doing things. The campaigners from yes was not even about the snp it was a grass roots movement with no political associations.hopefully something good will come of all this. A wake up call for everyone that no part or section of our society can be ignored. My worry is that many people again feel. Disenfranchised from political participation, however the opposite seems to have happened. Hopefully the vows made by Dave, ed and nick will be honoured. Excuse any typos ma big fat fingers are rubbish wi phones