Have an audio question for live recording.

Started by Blooby, March 27, 2014, 09:50:42 AM

Blooby


I am looking to record a gig this Saturday. I want to record to individual tracks for later mixing, but the house still likes to do their own mix.  I'm attempting to figure out whether the following plan is hatchable. Ultimately, I have to go into XLR inputs on the house snake.

The plan: Guitar and vocals go into the BR-1600.  Guitar gets panned hard one way and vocals get panned the other.  RCA outputs from BR-1600 with quarter inch adapters go to two direct boxes. One direct box is an ART MP V3 (first image below). It has an XLR output.  The other output of the BR-1600 (for the guitar) will go into a Fishman Aura, which also has an XLR output. I am not an electronics guy, so I don't know about relevant electronic voodoo (which should be the name of my future DJ persona). 

Any thoughts?

Blooby






alfstone

Hi Blooby,

yes, I think there should be no problem, but...I don't understand.

You mean...do you want record both voice and acoustic gtr dry? And send the outputs of the BR-1600 to the DI boxes? This way you will have "the final product" quite different from the one you recorded...

 ??? ??? ???

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64Guitars

It should work. I'd suggest using short cables between the BR-1600 and the DI boxes so the unbalanced lines don't pick up lots of hum and interference. In other words, don't use 20-foot guitar cables. 3-foot or 6-foot cables would be better. The shorter, the better.

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Blooby

Thank you for the advice. 64, good idea on the cable length.  I'm trying to get my ducks in a row before then.

Quote from: alfstone on March 27, 2014, 11:12:56 AMYou mean...do you want record both voice and acoustic gtr dry? And send the outputs of the BR-1600 to the DI boxes? This way you will have "the final product" quite different from the one you recorded...


I can use the reverb from the BR-1600 without printing it. I can the futz with the dry recordings later to taste.

Blooby

Geir

My guess is that you won't need the DI boxes, but I might be wrong. My thought is just: KISS. I would think the mixer would handle a line signal from the BR just fine.

I Would put up a couple of extra mics straight into the BR1600 tho, to get the audience/ambience so you can blend that in in your final mix .... just a suggestion  ... I guess you don't have to feed those to the mixer ?
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Oh well ........

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Quote from: Geir on March 27, 2014, 02:04:37 PMI Would put up a couple of extra mics straight into the BR1600 tho, to get the audience/ambience so you can blend that in in your final mix .... just a suggestion  ... I guess you don't have to feed those to the mixer ?

I was planning on this, but it's just an eatery. There will be more clanking of glasses and murmuring than band response. I am hopeful, though, that at least one glass will shatter.

Blooby

Flash Harry

Another way is to set up a simple mix from the board monitor / aux / fx busses. Some boards have anywhere between one and four or more aux channels. Each input is mixed to an individual aux bus and the output routed to the BR1600.

That way you get a clean input into each channel of the BR, your live recording can be subsequently mixed in the ordinary way.
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Blooby

Quote from: Flash Harry on March 27, 2014, 05:19:45 PMAnother way is to set up a simple mix from the board monitor / aux / fx busses.

This is what i was originally going to do, but their "board" is something I'm now trying to work around.

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