1st ?? about the DP 008

[64Guitars]

Next ? In order to get an actual stereo track do I need to link the inputs & pug into both inputs like I did on the mr8 r can I assign input A to tracks 1/2 & use a stereo cord from my drums into input A?
I've done the latter but I don't seem to hear the stereoness of the drums like I would on the mbr &mr8.

The inputs on the DP-008EX are mono, so you don't want to plug a stereo source into just one input - you need to use both inputs. Connect the left output from your drums to Input A on the DP-008EX and set the switch to MIC/LINE. Connect the right output from the drums to Input B. Check your input assignments. By default, they're setup so that Input A goes to the odd-numbered tracks and Input B goes to the even-numbered tracks. But you should check just in case you changed the settings. That should be about it. Just arm a pair of tracks and start recording.

It looks like the Phones/Output jack on the DD-65 is a single 1/4" stereo phone jack. So you'll need a suitable Y-adapter to split it into two separate 1/4" mono plugs to plug into the DP-008's Input A and Input B jacks.

Something like this would work: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/YPP117/. It's just a 6-inch adapter cable with a stereo phone plug on one end and two mono phone jacks on the other end. You could connect standard guitar cables to these jacks and plug the other ends of them into the DP-008EX.

Or you could get a longer y-adapter (6-foot, for example) that has two mono phone plugs instead of jacks. Then you wouldn't need to use any guitar cables.

There are several other adapter/cable combinations that would also work. For example, you could get a 1/4" stereo phone plug to dual RCA phono jacks adapter to plug into the DD-65, then run a standard RCA stereo cable to the DP-008EX with suitable RCA-to-Phone plug adapters on the ends. Maybe you already have some of these adapters and cables.

           

[Hook]

Yeah I got a cord for the mr8, a 1/4 inch stereo that splits onto 2 -1/4 inch mono plugs so that's cool, thanks.
What about the link setting under the input compression? Does this link 2 tracks into a stereo track for export? That was one of my favorite things about the br wav converter was that you could export your stereo tracks as a whole.
I guess my drums on "Where Do I Get On" weren't actually stereo, just 2 mono tracks panned hard right & left. I had access to the Yamaha EXP500 today and hooked it up correctly today and recorded a drum track for a new tune & it sounded sweet!
I'm really digging this new little black box!
Rock On!

[64Guitars]

What about the link setting under the input compression? Does this link 2 tracks into a stereo track for export? That was one of my favorite things about the br wav converter was that you could export your stereo tracks as a whole.

No, when the link button in the compressor is On, peaks from either input will cause the compressor to kick in on both inputs. If it's Off, then a peak in Input A results in compression to Input A only. Input B is not affected by peaks in Input A, and vice versa.

As for stereo exports, that's actually quite simple on the DP-008EX. When you set the recorder mode to Mixdown, it creates a Stereo Master track. When you go to the Import/Export screen and select "Export Master", it will export the Stereo Master track to the FAT partition as a single stereo WAV file. It also gives you the opportunity to name the file before you export it. When you connect to a computer, you can then copy the WAV file from the FAT partition to your computer.

There's only one Stereo Master track per song. So if you decide to remix a song, it will overwrite your previous mix for that song. If you want to keep both mixes, then you have to export the first mix to the Stereo Master track, then copy it to your computer before you do the remix. Actually, since you can give the exported file a name, you shouldn't have to copy it to the computer right away as long as you give each mix a unique name and you've got enough space on the FAT partition for both mixes.

[Hook]

That was one of my favorite things about the br wav converter was that you could export your stereo tracks as a whole.

As for stereo exports, that's actually quite simple on the DP-008EX. When you set the recorder mode to Mixdown, it creates a Stereo Master track. When you go to the Import/Export screen and select "Export Master", it will export the Stereo Master track to the FAT partition as a single stereo WAV file.

There's only one Stereo Master track per song.

So far these are my biggest pet peeves bout the DP-008. The proprietary format isn't much of an issue with the br units because of the wav converter. Having to do it on the dp-008 is a little slow & I cant just export, sy the drums as a stereo track, I get 2 mono tracks instead. It seems they got rid of the proprietary format on the 24 &32 machines & save it directly to wav. Wish they could fix that on the DP-008 with a firmware update or they should just make a wav converter. Fostex had an ok one, Boss has a great one, it cant be that hard. Of course if these are my biggest complaints then I'm gold.
Rock On!

[64Guitars]

I cant just export, sy the drums as a stereo track, I get 2 mono tracks instead.

What you can do is turn down all of the track levels except the drums and export the song to the Stereo Master track. Then you'll have a single stereo WAV file with just the drums.

The manual isn't clear on the subject of exporting stereo tracks. At the top of page 80 under the heading "Exporting tracks", it says "You can export the tracks that you want as 16-bit, 44.1kHz mono and stereo WAV files."  But, as far as I can tell, it doesn't tell you how to export a stereo WAV file. It does show how you can checkmark multiple tracks to export them all at the same time. Have you tried that? I'm just wondering if you checked tracks 1 and 2, for example, would you get a single stereo file or two mono files.

In any case, it's easy to combine two mono WAV files into a single stereo WAV file using Audacity. Just import the two files into Audacity, one per track, then click the little black arrow at the top of the upper track. From the menu that pops up, select "Make Stereo Track". Audacity will combine that track with the one directly below it to make a stereo track with the upper track as the left channel and the lower track as the right. Now select that stereo track, pull down the File menu, and select "Export Selection". This will export just that one stereo track, even if there are other tracks in the project.

You don't even have to copy the two mono files from the DP-008 to your computer. Instead, you can open the files in the DP-008's FAT partition directly from Audacity and export them to your computer. Your computer just sees the DP-008's FAT partition as another drive. Find out what drive letter Windows has assigned to it and select that drive in Audacity's "Import - Audio" Open dialog box to load the two mono files into Audacity. Then combine them as I've described and export the new stereo track to your computer.

[Hook]

The manual isn't clear on the subject of exporting stereo tracks. At the top of page 80 under the heading "Exporting tracks", it says "You can export the tracks that you want as 16-bit, 44.1kHz mono and stereo WAV files."  But, as far as I can tell, it doesn't tell you how to export a stereo WAV file. It does show how you can checkmark multiple tracks to export them all at the same time. Have you tried that? I'm just wondering if you checked tracks 1 and 2, for example, would you get a single stereo file or two mono files.

Yes, when you check the boxes you get separate mono tracks. It says though when you bounce the 8 tracks down to 2 (say 1/2) that those tracks are a stereo bounce. So I'm not sure how they would export, 2 mono tracks needing to be panned or a stereo track, My hunch is the 1st.
You don't export the stereo track in the same manner as the mono tracks. The stereo wav is made in the mixdown mode and automatically saved in that partition. The mastering is then done with that track and saved in the same place. Once that is all done your ready for usb connection and to get them on the computer is super fast. But the process isn't nearly as quick or easy as the br wav converter.

You don't even have to copy the two mono files from the DP-008 to your computer. Instead, you can open the files in the DP-008's FAT partition directly from Audacity and export them to your computer. Your computer just sees the DP-008's FAT partition as another drive. Find out what drive letter Windows has assigned to it and select that drive in Audacity's "Import - Audio" Open dialog box to load the two mono files into Audacity. Then combine them as I've described and export the new stereo track to your computer.

Hadn't thought of that but I dig it. Once again I'm really having to try hard to find many cons to the Dp-008. Even though the exporting process take a little longer, when your tracking, mess up & hit stop. there is no lag to save the song, you can just zero it and start again. For me that alone saves huge amounts of time seeing as how many times I friggin have to start over! Not to mention 8 tracks until a bounce, even with the export time waste I think I will be able to overall work faster on the 008 vs the mbr.

Rock On brother!

[64Guitars]

It says though when you bounce the 8 tracks down to 2 (say 1/2) that those tracks are a stereo bounce. So I'm not sure how they would export, 2 mono tracks needing to be panned or a stereo track, My hunch is the 1st.

Yeah, I noticed that too. It might be worth a try. I wonder if, since the DP-008 considers the result of a stereo bounce to be a stereo track pair, it will be smart enough to export that track pair as a single stereo file.

Another way to get a stereo track pair is with the Clone Track feature (page 60). If you set the Source to "MST" (the Stereo Master track), then it considers the destination to be a stereo track pair. Again, I wonder if you could export that track pair and get a single stereo file.

If either or both of those ideas result in a single stereo track file, then we just have to figure out how to tell the DP-008 that a given pair of tracks is a stereo pair rather than two mono tracks. So far, I haven't seen anything that suggests how that might be done.

[Flash Harry]

Can you monitor different sh1t (technical term ) on the DP008?

No only sound.

Best joke on this site for a long time.

[AndyR]

Can you monitor different sh1t (technical term ) on the DP008?

No only sound.

Best joke on this site for a long time.

Yeah, I forgot to acknowledge how much that made me chuckle

when your tracking, mess up & hit stop. there is no lag to save the song, you can just zero it and start again. For me that alone saves huge amounts of time seeing as how many times I friggin have to start over! Not to mention 8 tracks until a bounce, even with the export time waste I think I will be able to overall work faster on the 008 vs the mbr.

Rock On brother!

This resonated with me - I don't use my MBR that often, but whenever I do I'm CURSING the "save" time on the end of a take. On the BR1600, the minute you hit stop, you're ready to rock again immediately... in fact, sometimes, if you're going too fast, you're not even sure whether you were taping or not!!

[64Guitars]

when your tracking, mess up & hit stop. there is no lag to save the song, you can just zero it and start again. For me that alone saves huge amounts of time seeing as how many times I friggin have to start over! Not to mention 8 tracks until a bounce, even with the export time waste I think I will be able to overall work faster on the 008 vs the mbr.

Rock On brother!

This resonated with me - I don't use my MBR that often, but whenever I do I'm CURSING the "save" time on the end of a take. On the BR1600, the minute you hit stop, you're ready to rock again immediately... in fact, sometimes, if you're going too fast, you're not even sure whether you were taping or not!!

Interesting. I wasn't aware that the Micro BR has a noticeable pause for saving the data after you hit Stop. I haven't noticed any pause with my BR-864. I wonder if any other BRs have this pause, or is it just the Micro BR. Perhaps some BR-80 and BR-800 users could let us know here. It would be especially interesting from someone who has a BR-80 or BR-800 and also has (or had) a Micro BR so they can compare them regarding this pause time.