Is it me ...

Started by bruno, June 08, 2013, 11:31:27 AM

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Every now and then a thread pops up and makes everyone go mad. This is good. This shows passion.

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Quote from: Hilary on June 11, 2013, 02:21:32 AMIt's a good point 64 but only if you assume you get a lot of comments on your posts. For those of us who don't, we might only get one comment, say when the song is first posted, and if we then leave it a couple of days and then post a thank you we would be guilty of bumping it up the board, which I personally wouldn't do.

Better to bump your own topic once than to fill it with a bunch of individual "Thank You" posts. And, like I said, if you really feel a need to thank people promptly and individually, then why not send them a PM instead? That solves the problem, and it's more personal.

Quote from: Hilary on June 11, 2013, 02:21:32 AMI think it would be easier, just to have a proper rule not to thank people, if that's the majority view. However, it is a community and part of a community is communication and I believe it's a 2-way thing. All this political wrangling about where a song is on the board and how many comments you should or should not post sucks all the fun out of it for me and makes it all seem a bit contrived. However, if that's what the majority want then it's fine with me.

If you think it's contrived and political, then you've missed my point, because that's exactly what I don't want it to be. We don't need a rule. We just need to influence people's views to make the site better for everyone. People shouldn't feel obliged to thank others for their comments. It's not necessary. But at the same time, people shouldn't be made to feel that they're not allowed to post a "Thank You". So I'm not going to ban "Thank You" posts. I just want people to understand that posting many "Thank You"s in a single topic is annoying to a lot of people. So, if you want to post "Thank You"s, feel free to do so. But try to limit the number of "Thank You"s in a single topic. When I suggested posting just one "Thank You" per topic, I didn't mean it as a strict rule. I only meant it as a goal to strive for. Obviously, it's impossible to predict when people are finished commenting on your song. Sometimes topics go dormant for a while, then they get bumped perhaps a few weeks later or on the anniversary of the post. When that happens, it's okay to post another "Thank You" if you feel you need to. But don't do it right away. Wait a couple of days to see if anyone else is going to comment. Or send a PM instead. That seems like the best solution to me.

My original point in this topic was that I've noticed a growing number of people who are absent from the site for a long period, then suddenly appear and post a few comments followed by a new song post of their own. They then hang around for a few days to read the comments about their song, then disappear for another long stretch till they're ready to post another song. That is contrived. I pointed it out because I think it's partly the reason for the reduced activity that Bruno noticed. People who were once active, regular members now only visit the site and comment when they have a new song. That's not good for the community. I want to encourage everyone to have a less-contrived attitude to the community. Don't post a few token comments merely so that those people will comment on your song in return. Instead, post comments regularly, freely, and unselfishly because it's the right thing to do for the community. It makes the community stronger and everyone benefits. Cuthbert summed it up beautifully...

Quote from: cuthbert on June 10, 2013, 02:12:32 PMIt's simple, folks: try to give back to the community at least as much as you get. Not because you are required to, but because you want to see the site continue as a positive place where other songwriters and musicians want to be.

A well-considered comment can mean a lot to the recipient. Spread that feeling around!

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QuoteEvery now and then a thread pops up and makes everyone go mad.
yup  i think i started a couple myself  ;D ;D ;D and a minute of my morning or somesuch comes to mind too  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Quote from: IanR on June 11, 2013, 07:23:31 AMOn the other hand, I think responding to questions others have about your work asked is fine and should be done as often as necessary.  We often will see someone asking the songwriter how they did something, or what instrument was used for a lead break or whatever.  In those cases, responses from the poster should be acceptable and are necessary so that we can learn from each other.  In these cases people should not feel uncomfortable about responding.

Absolutely! I often ask such questions and I've been disappointed a few times when I got no answer. I'd much rather have an answer to my question than a "Thank You" for my comment. Questions can stimulate interesting conversations about techniques, equipment, etc. which helps us all to learn from each other.

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I always try to answer questions. And I do like to say thank you, although as 64G says, its not really necessary. I do have an idea though, but will require some code changes - so am not sure how easy or difficult it would be.

So the idea is that if you comment on your own post, it doesn't bump - unless the text includes the word BUMP. That way if you want to bump (e.g. on this day bump) you can, if you want to say thanks, it causes no angst. It's just an idea - and I won't be at all offended if people (well 64G - as he'd have to code it!) think its a crap idea ;D

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Quote from: 64Guitars on June 11, 2013, 09:08:37 AMMy original point in this topic was that I've noticed a growing number of people who are absent from the site for a long period, then suddenly appear and post a few comments followed by a new song post of their own. They then hang around for a few days to read the comments about their song, then disappear for another long stretch till they're ready to post another song. That is contrived. I pointed it out because I think it's partly the reason for the reduced activity that Bruno noticed. People who were once active, regular members now only visit the site and comment when they have a new song. That's not good for the community. I want to encourage everyone to have a less-contrived attitude to the community. Don't post a few token comments merely so that those people will comment on your song in return. Instead, post comments regularly, freely, and unselfishly because it's the right thing to do for the community. It makes the community stronger and everyone benefits. Cuthbert summed it up beautifully...

Guilty as charged. Although I am around, I don't post much. I do post sporadically, though, so maybe I'm not the poster child for this phenomena, but still..... good way to remind us to stay at least (semi) active, 64s
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