Extremely simple question.

Started by RGC3, February 20, 2009, 09:28:51 PM

RGC3

Yes, this is probably going to sound repetitive for some of you MBR master enthusiasts, but as a noob, it's easy for me to overlook the potential frustration many of you will experience as you read on.

That said...


I. Can't. Figure. Out. The. Fricking. Panning. Feature.

 :-*


So basically, I listen to music with a CRAPLOAD of different sounds coming from all directions all at once in one gigantic wall of notes. (i.e. Pendulum. Check 'em out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsN9L5SEg5U)

...Which means I, too, love to produce similar music.

However, due to my inability to comprehend most likely the easiest damn part of this entire piece of genius technology, I'm limited to 4 measly tracks. (Bass, guitar, guitar, and....well, guitar. Big sounds can be accomplished with multiple tracks of the same thing. BUT GUESS WHAT? YOU NEED LOTS OF TRACKS FOR THAT. :o)


Heh, anyway, if at least ONE of you could give me the run down on how to record 4 tracks, pan them each as desired, and then bounce them all to one track (or however it works), I would be forever grateful.

I'm SO ecstatic that a community like this actually exists.



And, to completely contradict all attempts at avoiding a massive plume of irony, I apologize for dragging you poor people through the previous mess of redundant bullshit. (Can I say "bullshit?" Bullshit. HA! Guess I can...)

Thanks in advance, I'll be childishly hovering over this topic awaiting a reply.


-Robb :D

Tony

Not a problem.  We've all been there.

I think it's best explained by the tried and true methods.

Recording:  Look at these tutorials first and follow the steps -

http://microrecorders.org/articles.html

Bouncing and using V-tracks: Look at this explanation and follow the steps -

http://www.geocities.com/sixtyfourguitars/BossBr/Tutorials/V-Tracks_and_Bouncing.html

Panning:  When you are in playback mode, press any one of the track buttons [tr1] to [tr4].  Use the cursor to get on to the Track Pan screen.  use the track button [tr1] to [tr4] to pick the track that you want to pan.  Use the Value button [-]
  • to set the pan position.  Press [Exit] when finished and go and make some more noise, preferably a CRAPLOAD of different sounds coming from all directions all at once in one gigantic wall of notes.

Ferryman_1957

I'll add to this as well. Once you have understood how the panning and bouncing process works, if you want a wall of sound approach you have to plan ahead. You can have many, many different sounds in your final song all over the stereo mix, but as you can only bounce four (well five if you play live as well while bouncing) into a stereo pair at  any one time, you have to think carefully about where everything will go in the final mix.

I tend to try to keep things together, so for example I might record four rhythm guitars and make a stereo bounce of that. You might then do four lead guitar parts, do a stereo bounce of that and then bounce the stereo rhythm guitars and stereo lead guitars into another stereo pair. That way you have eight guitar parts in a single stereo pair. But once you have done that, you can't adjust the individual guitar parts (unless you re-do the bounces). So you need to think carefully how all those guitar parts will relate to other things you will record later and gradually build up the track in layers.

So if you are planning a multi track epic (and it can be done with the MBR), plan ahead.

Cheers,

Nigel