Lazyness?

[guitarhead]

I'm wondering if I'm just lazy, or if it actually is a LOT of work to make an arrangement to a full-lenght song, f. ex. Too Near The Sun?

I'm also trying to figure out the easiest way to make the arrangement; do you think it's easiest to make the arrangement first, and then record the instruments, or the other way around? I think that making the arrangement at last is easiest, because then you can listen to your recordings while making the exact arrangement.

[Mr. Scar]

yeah drum arrangements really force you to lock things down. i need pencil and paper to  create my arrangements. although, i just discovered something cool.

when you're mastering, you can change drum patterns on the fly....kinda works more spontaneously then programing it all and hitting play.

[Pedro]

when you're mastering, you can change drum patterns on the fly....kinda works more spontaneously then programing it all and hitting play.

Hmmmmm...this is interesting, explain it better please! 

I think its is quite hard to program the drums as well so you must not be lazy. Or maybe I'm wrong: you, me and Mr. Scar are lazy... could be possible.

I'm also trying to figure out the easiest way to make the arrangement; do you think it's easiest to make the arrangement first, and then record the instruments, or the other way around? I think that making the arrangement at last is easiest, because then you can listen to your recordings while making the exact arrangement.

That is a good question, I agree with you. For me it is easier to record the instruments first (except the bass) and then create the drum arrangement. The bass is better to record last because then you can play it tighter with the kick drum and therefore creating a good rhythm section.

[Mr. Scar]

when you're mastering, you can change drum patterns on the fly....kinda works more spontaneously then programing it all and hitting play.

Hmmmmm...this is interesting, explain it better please! 

While the BR is mastering a song, you can access the the rhythm mode and you can switch the drum pattern as the unit is in processing the mastering action. We are able to monitor the process and take cues from the rolling audio.

Here's an example. The whole thing is a mess, but it does illustrate the "on the fly" drum arrangement potential. Bad as sounds here it is.

[Pedro]

when you're mastering, you can change drum patterns on the fly....kinda works more spontaneously then programing it all and hitting play.

Hmmmmm...this is interesting, explain it better please! 

While the BR is mastering a song, you can access the the rhythm mode and you can switch the drum pattern as the unit is in processing the mastering action. We are able to monitor the process and take cues from the rolling audio.

Here's an example. The whole thing is a mess, but it does illustrate the "on the fly" drum arrangement potential. Bad as sounds here it is.

But I think you can do that in the normal mode as well. You can play the song and add drum patterns as you play it. The writing tip is great, writing the song's structure is a great pratice!

Like:

verse1 (4 measures)/verse2 ( 2measures)/chorus (2 measures)/verse1 (4 measures)/ verse2 (2 measures)/chorus (4 measures)

Writing something like this really helps to visualize not only the drum arrangement but the whole song's purpose.

[Pedro]

And what about the Micro BR Drum Arranger, has anyone tried it?

http://www.tommystoolbox.co.uk/index.html

[Olarte]

And what about the Micro BR Drum Arranger, has anyone tried it?

http://www.tommystoolbox.co.uk/index.html

At $40 US it's  way too pricey for what it does. Now if it let you play the song along like the Microbr itself then I might think about it twice.