Copying part of a song

Started by bobankr, December 22, 2008, 09:53:17 AM

bobankr

I'm new and where I am stuck is in copying only part of a song for mastering and converting to MP3.  I created 4 tracks by overdubbung 1-2 in stereo with 3-4.  But that's in the middle of a bunch of other stuff I don't want.  How do I simply edit out the good section on Tr 1-4 and use it for mixing and mastering, etc?  Is this bouncing - which obviously I've never done...yet.  Can you help get me unstuck?  Thanks, Bob

64Guitars

On the Micro BR, bouncing and mastering are similar operations (unlike the other BRs). Both allow you to record the output of the mixer to another track or a stereo pair of tracks. The difference is that mastering also allows you to apply effects from the Mastering Tool Kit, and it gives you the option of creating an MP3. After you've specified the destination track(s), you start the recording by pressing the Record button and you stop it by pressing the Stop button. So, the easiest way to extract the section you want is to simply set the position to the start of the section before pressing the Record button, and pressing the Stop button at the end of the section.

However, if you want more accuracy in specifying the start and end points of the section, you can use the Track Copy editing feature (see pages 53 to 55 of the Micro BR manual) to copy the same section of each track to the start of an empty track. Then you can master those four tracks instead of the original four. Track Copy lets you specify the start and end location precisely in time or measures. It also lets you specify the start location of the destination track, which you'll want to set to "00:00:00-00.0" in this case.

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bobankr

Thanks, I get the punch in and out idea to capture the section I want.  Of course!  So....
      what I want to do is Master these 4 tracks into 2 new virtual tracks (panning and setting efx along the way) thus creating a pair of new stereo tracks which I then can export to wav or mp3.  Is that where I need to go? 

Thanks a lot for this info, I really need it!

64Guitars

Quote from: bobankr on December 22, 2008, 10:37:36 AMwhat I want to do is Master these 4 tracks into 2 new virtual tracks (panning and setting efx along the way) thus creating a pair of new stereo tracks which I then can export to wav or mp3.  Is that where I need to go? 

Correct.

As a point of interest, the procedure is a bit different on the other BR models (BR-600 or BR-900CD, for example). These models only master from a stereo pair of tracks. So, you have to first create a stereo mix by bouncing all of your tracks to an empty pair of tracks. Then you can specify that pair of tracks as the source tracks for mastering. But, according to the manual, the Micro BR doesn't allow you to specify the source tracks when mastering -- only the destination. Therefore, I assume that it masters the entire mix of all four tracks, so you don't need to bounce to a stereo pair as a separate step before mastering. However, I don't actually own a Micro BR, so I hope someone will correct me if my assumption is wrong. Although, I don't see how else it could work if there's no way to specify the source tracks when mastering.

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Zoom R20
recorder
Boss BR-864
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Ardour
recorder
Audacity
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Bitwig 8-Track
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Dmann

#4
 Panning is one thing the Micro BR does not do well, it requires you to manually do it while bouncing or mastering by pressing the button. it's a shame there is no dial :(

 when you bounce or master, all 4 of the currently selected tracks will be included, you can take a single track out of the mix by reducing the track volume to "0" though, or setting the track to a blank/empty virtual track if have some open.

 When you do a Master on the MicroBR, when it's finished, you will automatically be given the option to export to MP3 or WAV, which will then be stored in the MP3 folder of the memory card. Your master will also be stored on the Vtracks you told it to master to.

 Another way is to use the BRexplorer program, and rip individual tracks to your PC as WAV files using the WAVconverter (requires no mastering or bouncing on the MBR, as it rips the WAV from the SONG000X.BR0 file), then Use another 3rd party program such as Audicity to do panning, etc. This method, along with multitrack capable software allows you Master more than 4 tracks at once, but if your using the MBR's drum patterns, you'll need to bounce a stereo track for them alone else they won't be included.

 Hope this helps.