'Her Quiet Dusk' - Greeny Original

Started by Greeny, July 08, 2011, 02:36:18 AM

Greeny

TIM GREEN_Her Quiet Dusk
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Another (very) late night session. I'm not sure how your ears are going to deal with this one  :D

This is my weird chord changes pushed to the max. I'm not sure it makes for pleasant listening - in fact, it might be a bit unsettling. But I wanted to do something that was unique and unmistakably me! Lol. I don't think I've heard anything quite like this before  ;D

Acoustic guitars, telecaster, bass and vocals on the MBR.

p.s. still trying to catch up on all the songs / posts I haven't seen yet!

Lyrics:

Her quiet dusk
Surrounds me
I'm the boy with the bats
In the belfry

But there's a tear in the blue
For the stars to shine through
A crown of jewels for she

But there's a tear in the blue
For the stars to shine through
And our roots are tangled deep

It's my favourite time of day
When the clocks slow down
It's my favourite time of day
When the sun grows... the sun grows sleepy and
It's my favourite time of day
When the heat cools off

And she gives herself to me
In the twists and turns and the shadows of her twilight

Her quiet dusk
Surrounds me
We're like budgies in a cage
Who've been set free

But there's a tear in the blue
For the stars to shine through
A crown of jewels for she

But there's a tear in the blue
For the stars to shine through
And i want her desperately

It's my favourite time of day
When the clocks slow down
It's my favourite time of day
When the sun grows... the sun grows sleepy and
It's my favourite time of day
When the heat cools off

And she gives herself to me
In the twists and turns and the shadows of her twilight


Greeny. 2011.

Oldrottenhead

pleasant listening indeed, i freaking love it. love the words and imagary, and am at a loss for words so will just say FMGreenyWABP
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AndyR

Well... flip... it's brilliant! :)

I think it's an "album track" rather than a hit a-side. But, wow, it's not one you'd skip while listening to the album.

I think you could rework it and and turn it into an a-side. It's utterly perfect up until the end of the second verse (Who've been set free...) and yes, the ears want to hear the bridge and chorus again, but after you've heard them the second time it's almost like you didn't need to. It's like I had a wonderous cake, and it was so good that I picked another one off the plate, but even though it was just as good, I shouldn't have eaten it, it lessened the effect of the first one.

Does that make sense? Mebbe replace it with something that echoes the original structure from the first half. Mebbe it's just the bridge section needs something different there that leads into the same chorus (It's my favourite time of the day)... and then suddenly it would be an "a-side" - a thing that you just have to listen to again.

But, hey, the words and imagery, and the chords, and how you weave the bass and vocal through them - tis masterful sir! :)
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henwrench

Another top notch master class in style, production, songwriting and arrangement. How I'd love to see you work, Mr Green. Weird progressions or not, it all comes from the brains messages to the fingers, and just how many fingers do you have? I reckon at least 8 on each hand, or is that just the octopus?  ;) :D

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AndyR

Quote from: henwrench on July 08, 2011, 04:53:08 AMHow I'd love to see you work, Mr Green.

I was thinking exactly the same thing on another listen. How did you come up with this?! It all works so seamlessly. Don't tell me it was just a fluke and it happened to fall out like that... you get too many lucky flukes if that's the case! :D
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(Studio 68c 6x6)
   All that I need
Is just a piece of paper
To say a few lines
Make up my mind
So she can read it later
When I'm gone

- BRM Gibb
     
AndyR is on

   The Shoebox Demos Vol 1
FAWM 2022 Demos
Remasters Vol 1

Greeny

Quote from: henwrench on July 08, 2011, 04:53:08 AMAnother top notch master class in style, production, songwriting and arrangement. How I'd love to see you work, Mr Green. Weird progressions or not, it all comes from the brains messages to the fingers, and just how many fingers do you have? I reckon at least 8 on each hand, or is that just the octopus?  ;) :D

                                                                                       henwrench

Lol

I wish I could do proper fingerpicking, but I can't, lol. So I have an unusual (and quite fast) strum/arpeggio hybrid thing going on with the plectrum. And I only progressed to using 4 finger chords just over a year ago! It's been like a whole new world, that one.

This song was a pretty standard writing process... a chord progression for the verse that I played around with until I found a chorus I could tack onto it (half an hour for that part). Then I sang my usual 'lyric searching' gibberish over the top until I had a vocal melody and an idea of how I wanted to sing it. Another half an hour. Then I wrote the lyrics... this one arrived in 10 mins: about the same time it took to drink another can of Boddingtons, lol. Then I recorded it - in my tee shirt and underpants, lol. Once a song is written I always know how I want it to sound - i.e. what instruments to use, how it should be panned etc before i press the record button. I guess that's just lots of experience and practice. 2 hours or so, start to finish. Some take less than that, but I had to spend a bit of time with the bass part.

A slight difference was this one was that I took all the reverb off the vocal (i.e set it to zero). It gives a claustrophobic intensity to some of the phrasing.

Cheers fellas!

btw - where's our f*cking summer gone?!

henwrench

Quote from: Greeny on July 08, 2011, 05:15:20 AMI took all the reverb off the vocal

    Good boy.

Quote from: Greeny on July 08, 2011, 05:15:20 AMin my tee shirt and underpants

    Dirty boy.


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The job of the artist is to deepen the mystery - Francis Bacon

English by birth, Brummie by the Grace of God

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Greeny

Quote from: AndyR on July 08, 2011, 04:46:35 AMWell... flip... it's brilliant! :)

I think it's an "album track" rather than a hit a-side. But, wow, it's not one you'd skip while listening to the album.

I think you could rework it and and turn it into an a-side. It's utterly perfect up until the end of the second verse (Who’ve been set free...) and yes, the ears want to hear the bridge and chorus again, but after you've heard them the second time it's almost like you didn't need to. It's like I had a wonderous cake, and it was so good that I picked another one off the plate, but even though it was just as good, I shouldn't have eaten it, it lessened the effect of the first one.

Does that make sense? Mebbe replace it with something that echoes the original structure from the first half. Mebbe it's just the bridge section needs something different there that leads into the same chorus (It's my favourite time of the day)... and then suddenly it would be an "a-side" - a thing that you just have to listen to again.

But, hey, the words and imagery, and the chords, and how you weave the bass and vocal through them - tis masterful sir! :)

All great advice - and I can see exactly what you mean. You have that knack of considered and pro-level song construction / production though. I, on the other hand, should learn to take my time - consider the structure etc, instead of just throwing it straight down onto the MBR at 2:00am then moving onto the next one! This could well be worth a re-visit though.

Geir

It's my favourite time of day
when I get to listen to a new Greeny song !

This is brilliant, you have that unique talent of being able to make songs with weird song-progressions sound so natural and not weird at all. This flows so wonderfully through that green chordscape you've created.

Another keeper!
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Oh well ........

Bluesberry

There is something about a good Greeny song......and this one is a very good Greeny song........the interaction between the fantastic sounding guitars, the bass line weaving through, the lyrics telling a strange tale, the vocal melody rising and falling, everything has its own line here, no straight lines...nothing following anything else, all weaving around each other, and it flipping works wonderfully................it weaves a spell, all that together, the sum of it all weaves a huge tight spell.............it creates something alive, something so captivating, did I mention the unorthodox harmonies.................it grabs me tight by the ears and doesn't let go until the very end, when it finally releases me from its grip.  I find this one to be approaching a place of perfection, just exactly the way it is.......I couldn't envision any single thing different here, it would probably break the spell...............you are not just writing songs, not just telling tales, you are weaving spells here, magic spells.  It comes out as a complete world, like a snow globe world, a complete little spell of an illusion, wrapped up in a ........ well you know, wrapped up in a mystery...all that kind of thing. There is deep magic in your songs Mr.Green, deep magic.  This one has a large feeling.  From the first strum to the last, its got me deep in its magic.  Well done Tim, well done.  

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