Minor board reorganization and Songcrafters' philosophy/direction.

[Bluesberry]

What the fuck is wrong you assholes? 64g asked for a post so something was posted.

and that is very good, you posted.  But, damn man, you can't control what everybody else on here is going to post, you have to sit back and see what comes, the crap and the gold, it all comes together.

You see, I like to interact on this site in a similar fashion to how I create my music, I allow for a lot of free-form thought, don't force it, non-linear thinking, sub-conscious images floating through my conscious brain kind of thing......you know what i mean......thats why when I come on here, I am in that same kind of mindset .....sometimes it works, and something brilliant pops out, sometimes crap pops out..........I subscribe to the Neil Young school of creativity, don't force it, let whatever come out, to come out, even when its crap, you knever know when fools gold will turn into real gold........well, I can't help myself, when I come on here and interact with you-all sometimes I fall into that same mindset, and sometimes it is a little bit out there, but thats the only way I can fly..........tiger blood and all that.........so, no, I don't believe we were being assholes, we were just discussing and having fun in our own way.

[Greeny]

Well said, BB... every bloody word  

The more I think about a 'live' board, the more I like it. It's kind of the pinnacle of where music can take you... the progression from bedroom strummer to recording musician to live performer.

I know there are some old 'experienced' hands on here when it comes to gigging etc, but it's thanks to songcrafters that some people have gained the confidence and urge to take their music to the people. You only have to look at Tharek's open-mic journey to see where this path can take you. And speaking personally, I got to perform in a proper band set-up for the first time in my life because of this place. It's all good. It's all very good. And if a live board inspires others to do the same, then we've done an amazing thing.

Also, I have a feeling there will be more songcrafter 'gatherings' happening around the world from time to time (he says hopefully...!), and it will be nice for the results of our live collabs to have a home.

[guitarron]

Also, I have a feeling there will be more songcrafter 'gatherings' happening around the world from time to time (he says hopefully...!), and it will be nice for the results of our live collabs to have a home.

i'd love to puddle jump-seriously I'm in

[64Guitars]

I love the idea of a live music board. I'm not sure about combining it with some of the other things which have been suggested such as backers, but certainly gigs, rehearsals, open mics, live-in-the-living-room, etc. would be great to have in their own board. Excellent idea guys!

[Tony W]

is disrespectful, chill out.

You're kidding right? Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone.......

 I'm not suggesting you were disrespectful to another member, but a fellow admin. It's quite apparent that one of the admin staff already cleaned a bunch of pointless posts out of this thread, because he considers it a worthy topic.

If anything that should be an apology, not an attempt at corrective action.

[64Guitars]

It's quite apparent that one of the admin staff already cleaned a bunch of pointless posts out of this thread, because he considers it a worthy topic.

As far as I know, no admins have moved or deleted any posts from this topic. Any posts that have disappeared were deleted by the original poster.

[Oldrottenhead]

all posts removed have been removed by the original posters. i have not edited or removed any posts, my own included and any editing i have done on my own posts have been to correct typos or add a link.

[Tony W]

I apologize, for an incorrect assumption.

The reason Sai is upset, is the same reason I gave up on this thread. About 40 posts ago, I posted a picture of what the child boards "would" look like if we restructure and utilize the. Then I have to filter through a mountain of shit which we deem "levity" to see if there are any legitimate responses to that post.

I take this thread seriously, and it's quite apparent Sai does as well. The "levity" is funny, I won't deny that, but it also monopolizes my time. Lets face it, there's no "shit filter" on this board. 10 minutes worth of manually filtering through crap, I could have utilized listening to 2 posted songs and leaving comments.

That would be the reason Sai is upset.

[Ferryman_1957]

I liked Sai's suggested structure because it seemed "inclusive" to me. The fewer boards, the less issue with "this post shouldn't be in this board, it should be in that one" type issue (and less work for the mods). 64G's suggestion with more boards but no child boards also works but would be my second choice, but at the end of the day I don;t really mind.

Having a separate board for live performances, vids etc is a great idea as well.

While Sai was a bit over the top in showing his frustration, he did have a point. This is a serious topic and although a bit of levity is always a good thing, it is hard to wade through all of that and find the serious posts if you don't have much time (which is me at present). So I'm all for fun but let's also have a bit of topic discipline as well. Some of the forums I'm on have a "chat" thread or "way off topic" area for shooting the breeze if that's what folks want to do - might not be a bad idea here?

Cheers,

Nigel

[Saijinn Maas]

I apologize to anyone here I may have offended. I obviously wasn't talking about everyone. Though there is no point in being specific, I think it is rather clear to whom the comments were directed.

I happen to care what happens here. It pisses me off when people I respect, appear to not give me the respect other members would no doubt expect.

When you were asked, like adults, to keep it out of the thread, and that was completely and purposefully disregarded. Of course I took it personally. I am the one who asked. But this is over now. My purpose is not to rekindle any anger here.

and that is very good, you posted.  But, damn man, you can't control what everybody else on here is going to post, you have to sit back and see what comes, the crap and the gold, it all comes together.

You say that like this is a first grade classroom you can't control. Fun or not, we are all adults here, well most of us are... And correct me if I am wrong, but I am fairly certain that if we were face to face, having a serious discussion about something YOU thought was important, and just when you've finish stating your point, I laughed in your face. That wouldn't piss you off? I doubt you would have put it off to levity.

I don't want to get mad at anyone here. I like to have fun here as much as the next guy... why else would I keep coming back? It's definitely not because I enjoy getting frustrated and angry, that's for sure. There are times when the "adults" need to talk now and the kids need to go play somewhere else.

So again... sorry if I didn't take your foolish posts in the manner it which they were intended. Sorry that I obviously care about a particular subject that you do not. Believe me, the message is loud and clear. We are here to make music. I think I stay out of community discussions.

Thanks.

PS... If anyone has anything to say to me, just PM me. I think I'll take a friends advice and just ignore this thread.