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Title: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ted on January 02, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
You Don't Know What You're Talking About
© 1994, 2010 Ted Johnson, Ron Besore
Recorder: Started on a BR 600; finished on a Micro BR
Acoustic Guitar, Bass, Piano, Voice: Ted
Guitar: Dave Stack
Drums: Micro BR, STD2
Guitars: Epiphone Les Paul, Yamaha Acoustic
Bass: Michael Kelly acoustic
Piano: Yamaha Clavinova
He was just like you,
This ten-year-old who made me back down.
He said he'd bet me a million dollars
The Canadian army could whip us in a war.

He was just like you.
I sat down once and added them up.
If he worked those years at all of those jobs
The old mooch would be two-hundred-and-ten.

You don't know what you're talking about.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Maybe you're so slick even you don't doubt, but
You don't know what you're talking about.


I was like you too
The time I sold my huge blue car.
When it blew smoke from the air conditioner,
I said, "It needs freon; the compressor is fine."

You don't know what you're talking about.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Just because you made a couple bimbos put out
Don't mean you know what you're talking about.


You may have the gift of gab,
But when you speak I see that ten-year-old
Playground pontificator
Menacing me with a maple leaf,
Head too big for his baby teeth.

He was just like you,
This ten-year-old who made me back down.
He said he'd bet me a million dollars
The Canadian army could whip us in a war.

You don't know what you're talking about.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Maybe you're so thick even you don't doubt, but
You don't know what you're talking about.

You don't know what you're talking about.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Just because you made a couple bimbos put out
Don't mean you know what you're talking about.

This was co-written with Ronwhistle (the same as School Bus (https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=9269.0)).  It's been on the shelf a long time. Never recorded until now.

My friend Dave bought a BR 600 and wanted me to help him figure it out. I chose this song to be our experiment. We weren't done before Dave had to go back home, so I exported the tracks and I finished on the MBR.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Geir on January 03, 2011, 12:56:40 AM
WOW another Ted post !! This must be good !

And it is !!! Catchy and clever.

Cool riffs, fab arrangement.

Great performance !!

Fantastic tune !!

Please tell me that you used a piano for that piano sounds !! ;D
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Donna D on January 03, 2011, 05:23:03 AM
Oh! Catchy for sure! ;D  Great tune, Ted, and clever lyrics.
Lotsa good lines but I especially like this imagery:

You may have the gift of gab,
But when you speak I see that ten-year-old
Playground pontificator
Menacing me with a maple leaf,
Head too big for his baby teeth.

Well done all round. ;)

Donna
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: AndyR on January 03, 2011, 06:42:00 AM
Superb, Ted :)

Geir, unless he's neglected to mention a piano in the blurb, I think that piano's the acoustic guitar...  :o, I want that sound! :D (it's a really good hook by the way :)...)

EDIT: And the lyrics... just... wow! :)
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Bluesberry on January 03, 2011, 06:44:53 AM
Dang Ted, fantastic song.  For such an off the cuff song, this one really soars, great recording here.  I am sure your friend is hooked now, to have a song as strong as this in one session is incredible.  You guys should get together more often, there is a real good feel here, it breathes and grooves.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ted on January 03, 2011, 09:05:14 AM
Oops. I forgot to mention the piano in the info area. I updated it.  I wish I had a cheap toy piano. That's the sound I really wanted to hear in there.

@Donna: Most of these lyrics are 15 years old, but that line about "Menacing me with a maple leaf" is a new tweak. I must admit I was pretty satisfied with that one.  I sometimes forget how effective a simple image can be.  I didn't mean it literally, but now I can't help but imagine a blustering punk kid waving a maple leaf in my face as though it were a detonator.

BTW: Dave lurks. But I don't think he has an account.  Hi Dave!  He and I need to figure out how to swap files for collaboration.  I'm sure we can figure it out.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Satchwood on January 03, 2011, 09:19:50 AM
Catchy groove goin and cooL lyrics Ted !!   Nice production and performances by you both!
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ferryman_1957 on January 03, 2011, 10:20:32 AM
Great stuff Ted, hugely infectious piano and guitar riffs that play so well off each other. Love the bass as well and the whole thing is quirky, catchy and really inventive. Agree with Donna, some very cool lyrics in there and overall this is another fabulous track from Ted (and Dave). Hope we get some more like this soon.....

Cheers,

Nigel 
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: cuthbert on January 03, 2011, 10:26:27 AM
This is mighty, Ted.  8)

Huge production, and a story with universal appeal - this will be getting more play from me.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Redler on January 03, 2011, 10:30:07 AM
Awesome song! I listened this first time in the morning. This second listening 'opened' it more to me! A lots of nice flavors all around, like that piano riff and the lead guitar on the chorus. Nice collab, Ted and Dave!

Kari
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ted on January 04, 2011, 05:32:14 PM
It's cold and lonely on page two, so...

Thanks everybody!

It's kind of funny that this song had very few tracks (6), even though I had more tracks available to me on the BR 600.  I think I prefer the Micro BR to the BR 600.

Quote from: Ferryman on January 03, 2011, 10:20:32 AMGreat stuff Ted, hugely infectious piano and guitar riffs that play so well off each other. Love the bass as well and the whole thing is quirky, catchy and really inventive.

I'm kind of glad I never got around to recording it until now. My original bass ideas were very very busy, and I was rather attached to them.  Dave suggested a slow descending bass part, and that tweaked the character of the entire song (for the better, I think).

Quote from: cuthbert on January 03, 2011, 10:26:27 AMHuge production, and a story with universal appeal...

You mean I'm not the only one whose life has been peppered with encounters with bullshit artists?

Quote from: Redler on January 03, 2011, 10:30:07 AMAwesome song! I listened this first time in the morning. This second listening 'opened' it more to me!

It's kind of growing on me too.

I hope to get Dave on some more songs here.  Can we start a chant?

Dave... Dave... Dave... Dave... Dave... Dave... Dave...
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: lg on January 04, 2011, 05:49:19 PM
Well, I DO know what I'm talking about...When I say that
this is another great song Ted!
Piepod

LG
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Bluesberry on January 04, 2011, 05:49:23 PM
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Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Geir on January 04, 2011, 11:19:23 PM
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Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Greeny (No longer active) on January 05, 2011, 06:36:36 AM
Mighty fine. Highly accomplished musically, with great depth and originality on the lyric. Kind of quirky but totally cool. It makes you want to press the play button again as soon as it finishes. So that's what I'm doing now... !
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Greeny (No longer active) on January 05, 2011, 06:37:35 AM
Yep... still fab on play 2 and getting fabber. The piano hook is really dragging me in.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Gritter on January 05, 2011, 12:08:15 PM
cool and catchy groove...very danceable. Digging the lyrics and vocals.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Gnasty on January 07, 2011, 08:25:23 AM


Cool catchy tune Ted. It`s definitely something i just had to keep listening to over and over.

The intro with the piano driving into the bass and guitars is perfect. That`s what i`m talking about.

Where you get the idea for the lyrics. Those 10 year Canadian kids can be bullies eh? :D
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: OsCKilO on January 07, 2011, 11:56:16 AM
This is a Super cool vibe here Ted bro!

I'm in love with the part that starts "You may have the gift of gab....." 


SWeeet vibe going on there!

This tune is a keeper!!!


Downloaded!
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Tangled Wires on January 07, 2011, 02:07:42 PM
This song excels in so many ways, and is full of catchy hooks that just draw you in.

Glad you got this one recorded, its a gem.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ted on January 12, 2011, 10:08:57 PM
I just put this on Soundclick.

Thank you LG. Glad you liked it.

Bluesberry and Geir: Dave has heard your chanting. Any day now he'll create an account. Really.

Greeny: Thanks for the back-to-back listens. Quirky is a compliment. This song was experimental in a couple of ways. I wanted to write a song where the verse and chorus secretly have the same chord pattern, and only the piano hook gives the secret away.

Quote from: Gnasty on January 07, 2011, 08:25:23 AMWhere you get the idea for the lyrics. Those 10 year Canadian kids can be bullies eh? :D

I don't remember for sure. It was a long time ago. Ron and I were probably talking about our experiences with the great bullshit artists of our lives. The three verses are based on real events.

Quote from: OsCKilO on January 07, 2011, 11:56:16 AMI'm in love with the part that starts "You may have the gift of gab....." 

Those high harmonies are from my Digitech Vocalist Live 2.  For some reason that part reminds me of Journey. [Shivers...]

Quote from: andrewh on January 07, 2011, 02:07:42 PMThis song excels in so many ways, and is full of catchy hooks that just draw you in.

Thanks. That guitar hook by Ron was the key to making the song. A good hook is a gift not to be wasted.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: henwrench on January 13, 2011, 02:19:02 AM
Great stuff!! As always, a top tune with super organic production and values. I really dig your shit, Ted. Like a farmer, or something.

                                                          henwrench
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: The Gobi Desert Canoe Club on January 13, 2011, 08:03:02 AM
Like this a lot, can't believe it's taken me so long to respond. Very clever lyrics and the timing is great, in fact it's all top notch.............Willie
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: SwanSong on January 13, 2011, 11:09:25 AM
Hi there ted.
great song loved it . vocals and music. great super. thumbs up
bythe way this song has a reflection of the jefferson airplane
voulenteer of america. the start. either way thumbs up
a super listen NEIL
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ted on January 13, 2011, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: SwanSong on January 13, 2011, 11:09:25 AMbythe way this song has a reflection of the jefferson airplane
voulenteer of america. the start.

I had to find the song on YouTube. I didn't hear the similarity at first, but you're right. It's the exact same chord sequence, only half as fast as mine.

Theirs: ||: G - F- | C - G - :||
Mine:   ||: GFCG :||


That's a good ear you've got!  You could totally do a remix version of my song using samples from Volunteers in America. (You don't have a problem with samples and looping, do you?)

Thank you too, Willie and Henwrench.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: stoman on January 13, 2011, 02:37:14 PM
I downloaded the song a while ago but only listened to it yesterday in bed. I think my mp3 player was set to shuffle mode ... I had listened to a couple of songs that I thought were nice and was about to fall asleep, but then your song started, and I had to stay awake. :)

In other words: Great song, great performance!

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ted on January 13, 2011, 10:02:36 PM
Thanks Steffen.

I was reminded yesterday that there was a first attempt to record this about three years ago. I didn't remember it getting very far.  But my friend reminded me that there was a saxophone part, and he doesn't think the song sounds right without it.  So I sent him a bunch of WAVs, and he says he's going to remix it, and redo the sax. So there may be a new version of this song eventually with a couple more hands on it.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Tony W on January 13, 2011, 10:31:22 PM
Musically outstanding. That's my favorite aspect of your songs Ted. You've got the gift of making a catchy ass tune. I'm not a lyricist, and when putting a song together, I'd be perfectly happy making instrumentals for the rest of my life. With that said, take this with a grain of salt: I felt like I was outside the bubble on an inside joke. There were clever and entertaining lyrics for sure, but I didn't quite get it.

Again, the music is absolutely fantastic. I'd place your ability to construct a song up there with henwrench. It's not that there is something special about your music, each part is special and unique. I find that remarkable.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ted on January 14, 2011, 02:31:48 PM
Quote from: Tony W on January 13, 2011, 10:31:22 PMI felt like I was outside the bubble on an inside joke. There were clever and entertaining lyrics for sure, but I didn't quite get it.

Here's how I explained the lyrics on my blog:
"Learning the art of bullshit detection requires contact with bullshit artists. This is a tribute to those who honed our skills."

Don't try to promote me to the Henwrench league. I don't deserve it. And besides, I'd be scared with his pointing that guitar in my face all the time.
(https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=8720;type=avatar)
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: T.C. Elliott on January 14, 2011, 04:08:53 PM
This does remind me of school bus, but only after you mentioned it. I'm liking the groove, the drive.. okay I'm liking the rhythm on this one. Nicely done.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ted on July 07, 2011, 12:36:13 AM
Masterbump.

I forgot how much fun this one was.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Oldrottenhead on July 07, 2011, 01:27:46 AM
how in the name of the wee man did i miss this one, magic ted and a fine masterbump, better than flash harry's new toothbrush.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: launched on July 10, 2011, 09:41:47 AM
Well I'll be dipped in elephant shit - Crafty tune!! Hooky and intelligent with a clean production. I especially enjoyed the catchy chorus and the mix of the harmony vox.

I wish I had picked this up back in Jan. An excellent tune!


Mark
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Geir on January 03, 2012, 01:41:32 AM
OtDB (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=3785.msg154982#msg154982) for one of our RVM Lurkers (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=3785.msg170121#msg170121)
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ted on January 03, 2012, 07:20:54 AM
Thanks for OtDB! I've been meaning to go back and listen to this one. It might be one to perform live eventually.
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Hook on January 03, 2012, 08:19:36 AM
Catchy, witty, well done!
Rock on!
Title: Re: "You Don't Know What You're Talking About" -- original by Ted
Post by: Ted on January 12, 2017, 10:32:05 PM
Trumpbump