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Title: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: Pedro on January 17, 2008, 12:46:42 PM
Hello there people,

This section is dedicated to sharing of custom patches created on Boss Micro BR.
To share your own patches follow this procedure:


Have fun!  :D

Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: 97teledlx on January 24, 2008, 09:23:04 AM
It amazes me that that no matter how many times I read the manual, I still pick something up that I missed.  I did not realize that ALL "song" patches are stored with your song, even though/if they are not used to create your sound.  Am I correct on this or should I re-read the manual?  Seems like alot of memory card space is wasted on info that will never be accessed.
Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: 64Guitars on January 24, 2008, 09:41:10 AM
There are two patch banks available for your custom patches. The user bank is in the BR's internal memory. You can store up to 120 patches in the user bank (80 GTR, 20 MIC, 10 LIN and 10 EXT). The song bank is stored in the song folder on the Micro BR's removable memory card. You can save up to 120 patches (80 GTR, 20 MIC, 10 LIN and 10 EXT) in the song bank for each song. Patches from the user bank can be accessed by any song. Patches in the song bank can be accessed only by the song they're associated with. However, you can copy patches from the song bank to the user bank and vice-versa.

Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: 64Guitars on January 24, 2008, 10:00:27 AM
Quote from: 97teledlx on January 24, 2008, 09:23:04 AMSeems like alot of memory card space is wasted on info that will never be accessed.

The effects file is only 35KB which is very small. So, even though it stores all 120 song patches whether they're used or not, I wouldn't say that "alot of memory card space is wasted". It's only .0035 percent of a 1GB memory card.

Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: 97teledlx on January 24, 2008, 11:23:53 AM
Thanks for the quick explanation. Very Clear and Concise.  I would think that the users, myself included, are trying to learn too much too soon. Anyway, considering the total card space and the space required for the song patches, I would agree with you that it is quite negligible.  I also appreciate the reinforcement of the ins and outs concerning the ability, or lack of it, for coping and accessing the patches.  By the time I have the Micro BR figured out, I will probably use another upgraded device!! LOL  Regards and best wishes, 97teledlx
Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: tackium on July 29, 2008, 08:13:23 AM
I think there's a small bug in the Patch Documenter Program. Sometimes it skips the "middle" eq setting in the amp emulation.
Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: tackium on July 29, 2008, 10:19:27 AM
Example

Patch: GT08:VO Comp

Song: SONG0000
Folder: SONG0000.BR0
Algorithm: COSM GTR AMP

Preamp: VO DRV
  Volume: 40
  Bass: 36
  Treble: 19
  Presence: 0
  Master: 85

Speaker Sim: TWIN
  Mic Set: 10 cm
  Mic Level: 100
  Dir Level: 0

Noise Suppressor: On
  Threshold: 40
  Release: 40

FX: Off

Delay: Off
Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: 64Guitars on July 29, 2008, 11:18:01 AM
Quote from: tackium on July 29, 2008, 08:13:23 AMI think there's a small bug in the Patch Documenter Program. Sometimes it skips the "middle" eq setting in the amp emulation.

That's not a bug, it's intentional as not all of the preamps have a middle control. If you take a look at the preamp parameters on page 71 of the Micro BR manual (3rd edition), it says under Middle:

* If you have selected "MATCH" or "VO DRV" as the
  type, the middle control will have no effect.


This makes sense since MATCH models the Matchless DC-30 which has no Middle control:

(http://www.matchlessamplifiers.com/images/DC30_frnt1sm.png) (http://www.matchlessamplifiers.com/images/big/dc30_bg.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

And VO DRV models the Vox AC30TB which also lacks a Middle control:

(http://www.voxamps.com/images/customclassic/ac30cc/lg_ac30cc_panel.jpg) (http://www.voxamps.com/images/customclassic/ac30cc/lg_ac30cc_panel.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

So, the Patch Documenter intentionally skips the Middle setting whenever the selected patch uses the "MATCH" or "VO DRV" preamp type. For all other preamp types, the Middle parameter will be shown.

Thanks for the feedback. It's good to know someone's using the program.


Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: tackium on July 29, 2008, 11:33:33 AM
Well that's very impressive then, considering the Roland guys were unable to do this skip in the internal software. (Even if it has no effect, the BR does show a value in the VO and Match "middle" setting in the Micro BR.)

Hats off!
Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: gary france on January 28, 2010, 11:53:59 PM
Br micro
   I am having problems downloading guitar patches , I have had this br micro a couple of weeks , im over the moon with it. I have tried to download 64 guitars br micro documenter , no joy!
 CAN ANY ONE OUT THERE HELP ME
                                                                  GARY FRANCE




Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: gary france on January 29, 2010, 12:57:28 AM
ITS ME AGAIN , SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION, 
 I HAVE A BR MICRO , I WANT TO DOWNLOAD  SOME GUITAR PATCHES  TO USE ON MY BR MICRO
 AC/ DC , GOOD GUITAR SOUNDS   , OR ANYTHING, I COULD NOT FIND ANYWEAR ON THE WEB TO HELP
                                GARY FRANCE
Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: Geir on January 29, 2010, 03:01:08 AM
I've never downloaded patches myself, I usually just tweaks the patches myself or set up a new patch after what's described here.

64Guitars is the man for this question and he usually stops by early afternoon GMT ...

I do recommend you learn how to tweak the patches yourself tho (maybe you already have) cause differnt guitars usually needs defferent patches anyway to give the "same" sound out.


btw Welcome !!! Hope you post some of your music here soon too !
Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: 64Guitars on January 29, 2010, 10:50:54 AM
My program isn't for downloading patches. It's for documenting them so that they can be shared with other users. You have to enter the parameters yourself. See pages 62-64 of the Micro BR manual. You'll find a few member-contributed patches in this search (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?action=search2;params=YWR2YW5jZWR8J3wxfCJ8YnJkfCd8OCw0Niw5MSw5Miw5Myw5NSw5NCw5Niw5Nyw5OCw5OSwxMDAsODgsOTAsODl8InxzaG93X2NvbXBsZXRlfCd8fCJ8c3ViamVjdF9vbmx5fCd8fCJ8c29ydF9kaXJ8J3xkZXNjfCJ8c29ydHwnfHJlbGV2YW5jZXwifHNlYXJjaHwnfFwiU3BlYWtlciBTaW1cIg==).

Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: DannyB_KY on January 16, 2013, 05:33:38 PM
64,

Does this work with the BR80?

The presets on a BR800 are terrible and with this program it would be easier duplicate some of the BR80 patches on the BR800!.......Yes, no, maybe????
Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: 64Guitars on January 16, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
No, it only works with the original Micro BR. I'd love to make it work with other BRs but I'd need access to the hardware to make that happen.

Since your signature indicates that you have both the BR-80 and the BR-800, it should be very easy for you to duplicate the patches. Just pull up the desired patch in the BR-80 and browse through the settings while you enter those same settings into the BR-800. Then save the patch.

Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: Auroran on January 16, 2013, 08:43:48 PM
Quote from: DannyB_KY on January 16, 2013, 05:33:38 PM64,

Does this work with the BR80?

The presets on a BR800 are terrible and with this program it would be easier duplicate some of the BR80 patches on the BR800!.......Yes, no, maybe????

Out of sheer curiosity, which presets on the BR800 are you unhappy with?
Title: Re: How to share your own Effect Patches using Micro BR Patch Documenter program
Post by: DannyB_KY on April 30, 2013, 10:53:53 AM
I used the term "terrible" and shouldn't have.

 What I was referring to is with the BR80, I can plug up a guitar and find a useful tone and use it without tweaking. On the BR800, every tone I like HAS to be tweaked to be usable. Please remember that "usability" is a personal preference. I do not regret purchasing them! They are outstanding machines, each with its own fantastic features with few limitations.

64 is right. All I have to do is compare the two while viewing the screens. *Palm to forehead* DOH!! ;D