This isn't to harp on what you do not like about certain artists or anything.
This is what things do YOU try to avoid or insist on doing, when writing or recording your own music. Anything odd, a little on the OCD side of things, or just plain weird?
I got two...
- I try to avoid double tracking guitars using the same chords. I usually try to find inversions, harmonies, or anything that sounds interesting that might compliment the rhythm.
- And I hate rhyming a word with the same word. I did this by mistake in Creepy Little Alice I just realized recently. I rhymed the word "there" in the 2nd line, to the word "there" in the 4th line. Subsequently, I changed it for the acoustic version because it bothered me too much.
So, whatcha got?!
I've got three particularly annoying ones right at the moment:
1) Discovering I've plagiarised or "rewritten" one of my own songs without realising it (especially if it was a song I was thinking of recording one day...)
2) Discovering I've recorded the thing too bluddy slow after I've already laid down a lot of tracks...
3) Getting the "arrangement" sorted before starting the recording (number of verses/choruses, bridges, etc...). I'm scared of cutting and pasting chunks of backing band - might give it a go soon to get over it...
The rhyming thing gets me too - but I tend not to commit to anything being finished until all the lyrics are fixed...
Reverb. Never liked it. Unless it's naturally occuring, like actually recording in a tiled room, or placing mics far away down a corridor.
henwrench
i try not to think too much about what i'm doing so as not too inhibit myself. as a result i forget to note down what ive done played what settings i used etc, so when i try redo a song i find it almost impossible but i like doing things on the spur of the moment trying to get some spontaneity to what i do, so i try not to follow any rules as such but im sure i do subconsciously also i am a slave to a good rhyme and tho i endeavour to make my lyrics make sense sometimes the rhyme becomes more important. that said when i collaborate with hooper he forces me to push the boundaries a bit on that and insists that the opening lines dont rhyme i dont always suceed but i do try.
but most important thing for me is to have fun with whatever it is im doing, i also like how a mistake can send you off at a different tangent and result in a not bad song.
Quote from: henwrench on May 03, 2010, 05:21:24 AMReverb. Never liked it. Unless it's naturally occuring, like actually recording in a tiled room, or placing mics far away down a corridor.
henwrench
Can I safely assume most of your recordings are in a padded room in lieu of a tiled one?
1. I'm having a tough time weaning myself off the lyric sheet. That's a pain in the ass.
2. I get lazy a lot and don't use A/B Punch in/out, which causes button clicks on the onboard mic tracks.
3. Sometimes I don't clean up my lyrics, and then look back later and think "That was stupid".
4. I'm a reverbtard. So I don't use it. But I'm with Henny, though. Fake reverb sucks.
5. MicroBR drums (Or all BR drums for that matter) - I hate them.
6. Not a big fan of plugged in acoustic guitar, so I record with a mic, but can never get it right.
Ahh, I feel better now...
Quote from: Tony W on May 03, 2010, 06:35:55 AMQuote from: henwrench on May 03, 2010, 05:21:24 AMReverb. Never liked it. Unless it's naturally occuring, like actually recording in a tiled room, or placing mics far away down a corridor.
henwrench
Can I safely assume most of your recordings are in a padded room in lieu of a tiled one?
HA HA HA. Nice one Tony. How did you know.....?
henwrench
My musical pet peeve is the notion of "genre".
One nice thing about doing this whole music thing for only a year, I have not developed any pet peeves. So far I'm guilty of everything mentioned already, but I don't mind. I'm glad I can write a lyric now without rhyming, because I dislike it, thanks Sai!
I generally want to avoid this type of thread, yet I'm drawn to them at the same time. I want to develop my own tastes, however knowing what bugs people is very important to understand.
I have no peeves about muscial pets. I think they're great.
Having to take my hat off to record with headphones...I feel I perform better with it on.
Quote from: Gritter on May 03, 2010, 11:24:04 AMHaving to take my hat off to record with headphones...I feel I perform better with it on.
Same goes for sunglasses.
Quote from: Ferryman on May 03, 2010, 11:13:20 AMI have no peeves about muscial pets. I think they're great.
That made me laugh out loud! :D
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I find that i am in weird places when i think of my tunes and the inspiration comes out!! And i always don`t have a pen and paper with me...DOH!!
Quote from: Gnasty on May 03, 2010, 05:17:34 PMI find that i am in weird places when i think of my tunes and the inspiration comes out!! And i always don`t have a pen and paper with me...DOH!!
Yep, I've been there. I've forgotten more than I've put to paper. Maybe that's a good thing!
Quote from: launched on May 03, 2010, 09:36:39 PMQuote from: Gnasty on May 03, 2010, 05:17:34 PMI find that i am in weird places when i think of my tunes and the inspiration comes out!! And i always don`t have a pen and paper with me...DOH!!
Yep, I've been there. I've forgotten more than I've put to paper. Maybe that's a good thing!
Sometimes it`s good and bad. But sometimes i`ll forget something and remember it days or weeks later. And it turns out to be the best stuff.
I guess its the sub-conscious that brings it out. It is for me anyways. I love it!
Quote from: Gnasty on May 03, 2010, 09:48:27 PMQuote from: launched on May 03, 2010, 09:36:39 PMQuote from: Gnasty on May 03, 2010, 05:17:34 PMI find that i am in weird places when i think of my tunes and the inspiration comes out!! And i always don`t have a pen and paper with me...DOH!!
Yep, I've been there. I've forgotten more than I've put to paper. Maybe that's a good thing!
Sometimes it`s good and bad. But sometimes i`ll forget something and remember it days or weeks later. And it turns out to be the best stuff.
I guess its the sub-conscious that brings it out. It is for me anyways. I love it!
I may have it wrong, and I am sure someone will correct me, but wasn't Paul McCartney who said something about NOT recording or writing down ideas. If you don't remember them later, that it probably wasn't good enough. ??? Something like that...
My wife yankin my earbuds out... cause I can't hear her yelling at me.
Quote from: Saijinn Maas on May 03, 2010, 10:32:20 PMQuote from: Gnasty on May 03, 2010, 09:48:27 PMQuote from: launched on May 03, 2010, 09:36:39 PMQuote from: Gnasty on May 03, 2010, 05:17:34 PMI find that i am in weird places when i think of my tunes and the inspiration comes out!! And i always don`t have a pen and paper with me...DOH!!
Yep, I've been there. I've forgotten more than I've put to paper. Maybe that's a good thing!
Sometimes it`s good and bad. But sometimes i`ll forget something and remember it days or weeks later. And it turns out to be the best stuff.
I guess its the sub-conscious that brings it out. It is for me anyways. I love it!
I may have it wrong, and I am sure someone will correct me, but wasn't Paul McCartney who said something about NOT recording or writing down ideas. If you don't remember them later, that it probably wasn't good enough. ??? Something like that...
I was getting ready to say something like that... I was thinking it was Phil Lynot of Thin Lizzy, but it could easily have been Paul McCartney.
I kind of subscribe to it, but only when the ideas are flowing freely... when you're a bit short on inspiration, and you can't remember that "brilliant" idea from just before you had to go and do the shopping... it's a bit of a bummer :D
Quote from: Rata-tat-tat on May 03, 2010, 11:08:42 PMMy wife yankin my earbuds out... cause I can't hear her yelling at me.
:D My wife doesn't yank mine out (she doesn't yell at me, actually, either)... but she does experience some of the same frustrations... especially because I can't seem to help looking annoyed when she needs to talk to me and I'm listening to something else... (I'm never actually annoyed, I just look it, and I know I do!!)
Quote from: AndyR on May 04, 2010, 01:57:07 AM:D My wife doesn't yank mine out (she doesn't yell at me, actually, either)... but she does experience some of the same frustrations... especially because I can't seem to help looking annoyed when she needs to talk to me and I'm listening to something else... (I'm never actually annoyed, I just look it, and I know I do!!)
My wife does the same thing... except that I actually look annoyed because I am annoyed. what's funny is that I am not annoyed at the interruption. If she would tap me on the shoulder to get my attention that would be great. But to turn and see someone already talking to you like you were part of the conversation? LOL I just look at her and shrug, then she realizes that I didn't hear anything she said. :/
in many of me songs i have to redo my vox cos you can hear mrs h shouting will you take those expletive deleted headphones off and listen to me! but more commonly you can hear her laughing from the next room, i leave that on most songs.
I don't have too many pet peeves. The way I figure it, I'm the boss of my own little MBR studio, and what I say goes, lol. So nothing gets onto my recordings that I haven't personally approved, tested or come up with by sheer accident.
That said, I don't like the sound of the STD2 drum kit on the MBR one little bit.
And I wish the MBR had different time signatures and rhythm variations, 'cause I've milked the f*ckers dry.
As for reverb, when it comes to backing vocals it's a very useful tool. To use a painting analogy, reverb allows you to do a watercolour wash in the background that doesn't detract from the foreground. Or something like that, lol. Anyway, it just helps balance the mix for me. Not keen on reverbed guitars though (apart from when I add an extreme panned 'wash' of acoustic guitar). The pre-set at '15' on the MBR is just about right generally.
Does being annoyed that I can't right songs like Brian Wilson count as a pet sound peeve? lol
Quote from: Greeny on May 04, 2010, 02:57:11 AMThat said, I don't like the sound of the STD2 drum kit on the MBR one little bit.
And I wish the MBR had different time signatures and rhythm variations, 'cause I've milked the f*ckers dry.
Serious post here - agree with Tim. That drum machine on the MBR and drum prgramming in general. That limits my creativity because I really don't have the time to program complex drum tracks on the various drum machines I have. I tend to stick to simple time signatures and repeating drum patterns because of that which is a frustration.
BTW Tim, you do a fantsatic job of keeping your songs sounding different within the limited confines of the MBR drum patterns.
Cheers,
Nigel
Hi All, nice to know that I'm not the only one who gets ideas for the best song ever written only to forget them by the time you get back to a recorder, and have you noticed how much better you can play in your head. I can play like Skunk Baxter till I pick up a guitar. My only real peeve is I'm always a little worried about political comment in music, it's a bit like subliminal advertising, it sneaks up on you. Willie
After continued reading here, I have decided that I do in fact have pet peeves.
I do all my recording downstairs in the basement, acoustically it's a shit spot. I can't really record anything with a mic, because you never know when the dogs are going to tromp across the floor. I got some vacuum cleaner action on my last post... No Geir, I wasn't playing drums on the Vac.
The one thing that may lead to incarceration is the significant other. She comes down to my domain, and starts saying my name, then gets louder and louder until I acknowledge. Keep in mind, at some point I realize that she's in my super secret hideout, and I've chose to ignore her, hoping she'd go away. NOPE. She continues, until I lose concentration on this majestic piece that I'm 30 seconds from finishing..... I take the cans off, look at her in disgust, and in the most vile tone I can muster I ask...
WHAAAAAAAAT?
She looks like a dog that's been kicked yet continues with her question.
ARE YOU RECORDING??????That's it, that's the "switch" that may lead to domestic violence. I'm certainly not down in the basement with wires dangling from me like an abandoned server room because I'm trying to extract semen from a cat. No, I think it should look fairly obvious that I'm at least not in the mood to be bothered.
Quote from: Tony W on May 04, 2010, 07:01:12 AMI'm certainly not down in the basement with wires dangling from me like an abandoned server room because I'm trying to extract semen from a cat. No, I think it should look fairly obvious that I'm at least not in the mood to be bothered.
That made me laugh out loud!
Reminds me of this. Actually, this sums up a lot of relationships, lol (luckily not mine :D)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzwLyLqLdA
This is what I'm like when I'm disturbed. A bit, anyway :D :D :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLI7MLZYPBg
I'm probably in the minority here, but I gotta ask.... Who thinks Jack Torrence was actually the victim in the horror film? I don't think Wendy had it nearly as bad as Jack. I think Wendy and that creepy little REDRUM kid were the villians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxTfw8QgLIQ
It would have been nice to hear the actual audio on this, but this is a great little collection and I want to play to.
Archie sums it up for me here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKwdRHovYok
here s who archie bunker is based on beware.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWKy4RHf5tQ
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My musical pet peeve?
One word: retake. ;)
LOL I was just looking for something like that Tony!
I knew it was heading that way as soon as the first person posted a YouTube vid... Which started as on topic, then quickly evaded all sense of On Topic-ness! :P
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People (musicians) who say Ringo wasn't a good drummer or that it wasn't him playing on any of the Beatles songs.
People (musicians) who think that Ringo WAS a good drummer...
:P
Love ya Grit! ;D
I'm with Sandy on that one. Ringo is WAY underrated... :)
Kiss replacing Ace and Peter but having the new members wear same make-up!
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How can yah tell? :D
Quote from: Saijinn Maas on May 04, 2010, 01:29:35 PMPeople (musicians) who think that Ringo WAS a good drummer...
:P
Love ya Grit! ;D
I'll take creativity over technical precision any day...Serve the song - Ringo understood this.
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Haha! Good one Tony!!
Quote from: Gritter on May 04, 2010, 01:32:56 PMQuote from: Saijinn Maas on May 04, 2010, 01:29:35 PMPeople (musicians) who think that Ringo WAS a good drummer...
:P
Love ya Grit! ;D
I'll take creativity over technical precision any day...Serve the song - Ringo understood this.
I know. I just couldn't pass up the chance to mess with you. You know SOMEONE was going to do it ;)
Quote from: Gritter on May 04, 2010, 01:27:27 PMPeople (musicians) who say Ringo wasn't a good drummer or that it wasn't him playing on any of the Beatles songs.
Ringo was/is the best drummer ever.
George was the best guitarist ever.
Paul was/is the best bassist ever.
John was the best antagonist ever.
The Beatles were/are the best band ever.
henwrench
Look, I derailed the thread, got it back on course, and Sai's taking shots at Gritter.... ugh, do you know how hard it is to find a good hijack pic? Especially one that doesn't have Middle eastern looking people being featured?
Aaron Neville's mole really high girlie voice.
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Don't make me hijack again!
Okay, okay...
Let's get back on track here... As was said initially, this thread isn't about what things about music, or bands, or musicians, etc. piss you off. It was meant as a release of the things YOU "have to" do when making music. Those unspoken rules about what you make it a point to avoid doing, and those things you are completely OCD about making sure you DO do!
I seem to be unable to "finish" a song before I begin recording it. I end up starting to record with just the idea, and then use the recording process to finish writing it. Annoys me sometimes, but I can't seem to stop!
i always try and go with the flow let the song go where it takes you, sometimes i start out with a very clear idea of what i intend to do but the music muse or whatever takes over and i end up with something completely different to what i intended and usually much better for it.
Now that I've got a better handle on the thread, I cringe whenever I do this one lick that was friggin awesome the first 20 - 30 times I did it, but now.... I want to kick myself for clinging on to one thing so hard.
Quote from: Tony W on May 04, 2010, 01:38:47 PM... and Sai's taking shots at Gritter...
He knows I was just teasin'... At least I hope he does! :o ;D
All of my best work comes when I've pre-written and honed the song I'm working on. It's easier to visualise how it should sound during recording when it's a finished song that I can play live and acoustically. I tend to come unstuck when I randomly throw some chords or music onto the MBR and hope that a song will emerge. Inevitably, it's in the wrong key, or just doesn't have a strong vocal hook. Happy accidents can sometimes emerge from 'blank canvas' experimentation, but it just doesn't suit the way I work.
I have a newly acquired pet peeve - this site is eating into my recording time. I go to record that killer fill or bass line, and hours later I'm still noodling away on the computer without having touched an instrument. (Just kidding, this place is a godsend, particularly after the yawning voids of myspace)...
No, my pet peeve is recording a bunch of tracks/bounces/sub mixes etc during a fit of artistic inspiration, without bothering to name them properly, and then coming backs weeks/months later and thinking "wtf are all those tracks???". I have wasted hours that way, I'm much more careful about organising tracks these days.
Quote from: Greeny on May 05, 2010, 02:40:59 AMAll of my best work comes when I've pre-written and honed the song I'm working on. It's easier to visualise how it should sound during recording when it's a finished song that I can play live and acoustically. I tend to come unstuck when I randomly throw some chords or music onto the MBR and hope that a song will emerge. Inevitably, it's in the wrong key, or just doesn't have a strong vocal hook. Happy accidents can sometimes emerge from 'blank canvas' experimentation, but it just doesn't suit the way I work.
Same here, big time. All the recordings I've produced where people go "wow" were fully organised structurally before the project opened on the recording machine.
Precise instrumentation etc might not be in place, but the basic song structure, how many verses, little bridges, whatever, were all decided on. Even down to what each section, the intro for example, is actually bringing to the party - if it's not adding anything, why's it there?! That sort of thing...
Usually the lyrics are pretty firm as well - there might be expected tweaks to make a line run more smoothly, but usually I can sit in the living room and play and sing a version of the song with one acoustic. If I can perform it, I know I've got something that might be worth spending hours on...
Anyway, that's the main way I work, and when I use that method it seems to give the best results (no-one gets to hear the other things :D).
BUT, and I guess this is a current peeve for me, this very method is what's causing me hassle at the moment. I have several songs that I
suspect will be stunners... but they're not quite "finished" yet, or if they are, I don't have the technical expertise yet to figure out how to capture them on my own, without a "live" rhythm section...
Still, it's not that much of a "peeve" - I keep accidentally reminding myself that at least I have this backlog of almost complete songs, each of which, with a bit of work, will be very satisfying to look back on when I've managed to capture them :D
And, Kevin, I have the same problem if I use recording to work stuff out and then put it to one side as "this is pretty good, I'll come back to it" - wtf are all these tracks? What was I thinking while I was doing this?!!... Cos I'm buggered if I can hear the same thing now... :D
When my gorgeous and very naked girlfriend walks in the room while I'm doing the perfect take.
Wait a second, I think I was dreaming that at some point.
Any-hoo, it's got to be time, time, time, and I'm talking about not having a lot of time as opposed to not keeping time. Hell, I've practically become a professional lurker here. I pop in, check out a few songs, maybe comment on one or three, and then I'm out again (for this, I apologize). It's no accident that most of my posts are from a live band. We get together once every so often, cut loose for a night, and then it's back to the mines. Pffft. I'm sure most of us are in similar situations, so I guess I'm just whining.
Oh, and my utter lack of discipline. Bosko drove that point home while listening to his stuff. I wish some of his O.C.D. rubbed off on me (sounds erotic, no?). I'm a first or second take person because I simply must move onto the next thing, much of the time, to the tune's detriment. The discipline to practice might be nice as well instead of doing my noodly bits.
Off to the mines. I'm a half hour late today. Stick it to the man!
Blooby
Has anyone mentioned their day job as a pet peeve yet? Seriously, this whole getting paid thing is overrated and highly annoying. I maintain a commitment free life style other than the job.
I make no promises to spend my time on others, I avoid social engagement like the plague. I don't have children, nor do I anticipate having any. When my plans of doing nothing but music get interrupted..... I think I throw a temper tantrum.
I think I can safely say that I meet the minimum expectations required to be a member of society. I wave at the neighbor down the road, if I know that he saw me looking his way. I force myself to partake in the "required" social events such as company Christmas parties and funerals. I continually strive to be the person that nobody invites to a wedding.
I've found a list of guidelines which work quite well for alienation.
Step 1
Be completely preoccupied with yourself and your own problems and those around you will quickly alienate themselves from you.
Step 2
Listen to others conversations only long enough to find an opening so you can talk more about yourself. This will offend people and make them feel unappreciated.
Step 3
Take credit for the work of others. This may be the quickest way to alienate a coworker.
Step 4
Put other people down just so you can feel better about yourself and soon no one will care how you feel.
Step 5
Refuse to let anyone help you and then complain that no one cares about you. This leaves people feeling frustrated and confused.
Step 6
Borrow money from friends, family or coworkers and never pay it back.
Step 7
Deny having borrowed the money when you are asked to repay it. This is probably the second quickest way to alienate those around you.
Step 8
Put someone on hold for an extended period of time and then tell them you don't have time to talk. This will leave a clear impression that your needs are much more important than theirs.
Step 9
Have loud personal conversations on your cell phone in any public place.
Step 10
Leave lengthy messages on answering machines that go on so long that the machine cuts off before you leave your number.
Step 11
Forget to shower. Body odor can be very offensive.
Step 12
Make sure you are in control of everything no matter what it is. This is a great way to tell others you have no faith in their ability to do anything right.
Step 13
Exaggerate everything and become highly emotional about it. Drama becomes tiresome very quickly and soon people will avoid talking to you.
Step 14
Ask for advice and then tell the person how stupid it is. Rudeness is a surefire way to alienate people.
Step 15
Change the channel half-way through a movie your friends or family are watching and then leave the room. Being this inconsiderate of others will get you all the alone time you want.
Step 16
Be late to everything especially if you planned the meeting or event yourself.
Step 17
Promise to keep a secret and then tell everyone you see. People who can't trust you will stop talking to you.
Step 18
Sulk if you don't get your way. Pouting can be very irritating to others.
Step 19
Be possessive or overwhelmingly needy. Either one will alienate everyone around you.
Step 20
Repeated Threadjacking...... sorry I did it again.
Hi Tony, I now have your advise pinned to the wall at work although a colleague says I've always been like it. I also managed to alienate the maintainance man who now has to repair the wall.
Sound Advise. Willie
Hmmm... tis sad reading that list Tony... I've mastered a good 75% of that, and I'm a "gifted amateur" on at least another 10%...
There's only one or two that I actively don't do...
Er... are all musicians like that, or is it just me? :D
Quote from: AndyR on May 05, 2010, 10:34:53 AMEr... are all musicians like that, or is it just me? :D
Quite a lot are, that's why being in a band is so hard! Much better to be sat in your home studio convinced of your own brilliance I find.
Cheers,
Nigel
Hi I'm Geir and I'm a panhole (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=3785.msg52290#msg52290) !!!
I need to balance things out in the mix. For extreme panning I need to have something in the same frequency-range in both channels. If left/right takes differ too much I narrow the mix or fake-doubletrack the takes.
Lately I've also been a notorious NO-FX on vocal/acoustic recording. I may add FX later, but in 90% of the cases the raw recording sounds best!
Quote from: Blooby on May 05, 2010, 06:51:42 AMIt's no accident that most of my posts are from a live band. We get together once every so often, cut loose for a night, and then it's back to the mines. Pffft. I'm sure most of us are in similar situations, so I guess I'm just whining.
Except, most iof us don't have the luxury of having a band :(
QuoteOh, and my utter lack of discipline. .......
I'm a first or second take person because I simply must move onto the next thing, much of the time, to the tune's detriment.
Now that sound very familiar.
I Need to learn some more Freaking Chords!!!
QuoteStep 1
Be completely preoccupied with yourself and your own problems and those around you will quickly alienate themselves from you.
Step 2
Listen to others conversations only long enough to find an opening so you can talk more about yourself. This will offend people and make them feel unappreciated.
Step 3
Take credit for the work of others. This may be the quickest way to alienate a coworker.
Step 4
Put other people down just so you can feel better about yourself and soon no one will care how you feel.
Step 5
Refuse to let anyone help you and then complain that no one cares about you. This leaves people feeling frustrated and confused.
Step 6
Borrow money from friends, family or coworkers and never pay it back.
Step 7
Deny having borrowed the money when you are asked to repay it. This is probably the second quickest way to alienate those around you.
Step 8
Put someone on hold for an extended period of time and then tell them you don't have time to talk. This will leave a clear impression that your needs are much more important than theirs.
Step 9
Have loud personal conversations on your cell phone in any public place.
Step 10
Leave lengthy messages on answering machines that go on so long that the machine cuts off before you leave your number.
Step 11
Forget to shower. Body odor can be very offensive.
Step 12
Make sure you are in control of everything no matter what it is. This is a great way to tell others you have no faith in their ability to do anything right.
Step 13
Exaggerate everything and become highly emotional about it. Drama becomes tiresome very quickly and soon people will avoid talking to you.
Step 14
Ask for advice and then tell the person how stupid it is. Rudeness is a surefire way to alienate people.
Step 15
Change the channel half-way through a movie your friends or family are watching and then leave the room. Being this inconsiderate of others will get you all the alone time you want.
Step 16
Be late to everything especially if you planned the meeting or event yourself.
Step 17
Promise to keep a secret and then tell everyone you see. People who can't trust you will stop talking to you.
Step 18
Sulk if you don't get your way. Pouting can be very irritating to others.
Step 19
Be possessive or overwhelmingly needy. Either one will alienate everyone around you.
Step 20
Repeated Threadjacking...... sorry I did it again.
Damn Tony!! I used to do ALL those steps. I turned into a nice guy! That`s what my problem is!
I`m going back to my old self right now! >:(
- Having a wife who would leave me alone when I want to record, but me being too self-conscious to record vocals unless nobody is home.
- Knowing I could record during the day (because I work from home), but worrying that if I ever did, my wife would do a surprise inspection. "Ah ha! I knew you just goofed off all day!"
- Getting a great idea and capturing quickly it in the Micro BR's MP3 mode, only to realize the next day that I didn't select the right INPUT mode. A silent MP3 and a forgotten inspiration.
- Wondering whether people think I use too much reverb.
- Wondering whether I should be less satisfied than I am with the Micro BR's drums.
Quote from: Ted on May 06, 2010, 10:32:17 PM- Having a wife who would leave me alone when I want to record, but me being too self-conscious to record vocals unless nobody is home.
- Knowing I could record during the day (because I work from home), but worrying that if I ever did, my wife would do a surprise inspection. "Ah ha! I knew you just goofed off all day!"
- Getting a great idea and capturing quickly it in the Micro BR's MP3 mode, only to realize the next day that I didn't select the right INPUT mode. A silent MP3 and a forgotten inspiration.
- Wondering whether people think I use too much reverb.
- Wondering whether I should be less satisfied than I am with the Micro BR's drums.
1. I'm the same, so do what I do. Go record your vox while sat in the car inside the garage so that no one can see or hear you screaming your lungs out. Or wander round lonely Norwegian towns at 1am in the morning singing like Geir does.
2. Same issue for me, so spend your down time during the day catching up on posts to give you more recording time in the evenings.
3. Been there, done that.
4. Henny thinks you use too much reverb, but then he thinks everyone uses too much reverb. Glad he never had to work as Roy Orbison's sound engineer.
5. Yes you should. But I am satisfied with your ability to create amazing drum tracks from such a cumbersome beast.
Cheers,
Nigel
I regularly have terminal Red Light Fever. I can play something brilliantly, perfectly and with sublime feeling - right up to the point when I hit the record button. The red light comes on and a complete talent bypass materialises throughout my body.
Or at least that's what I have convinced myself.
Paul
Not tuning before recording - I recorded a great bass track once and a then few days later noticed every fourth note sounded like a buffalo farting
Staying up late recording while wearing shorts, so that my legs freeze, like they are now. See ya, pyjama time....
Quote from: chapperz66 on May 07, 2010, 05:47:11 AMI regularly have terminal Red Light Fever. I can play something brilliantly, perfectly and with sublime feeling - right up to the point when I hit the record button. The red light comes on and a complete talent bypass materialises throughout my body.
Get a Micro BR - there's no red light, hence no red light fever! ;D
But seriously, Paul - I know what you mean. As soon as I hit record, I'm automatically more prone to flubbing than when I'm not recording. And that leads to my musical pet peeve: retakes. :)
-cuth
Thought I would post that might be interesting but would like to keep it to music otherwise I could think of a million things. To start with.
Why does my wife eat all my picks in the hoover.
My guitar sounds out of tune but upon tuning really it isn't, it's my crap playing.
You have a wife that hoovers? ;D Willie
Quote from: Donkeydoo on June 10, 2010, 04:07:26 AMMy guitar sounds out of tune but upon tuning really it isn't, it's my crap playing.
Don't worry, it's impossibe to tune a guitar!! But, there's a solution to that now:
https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=4123.msg46653#msg46653
Since that thread, I have also found something else that compensates for the normal tuning irregularities. The Earvana Compensated Nut (http://www.earvana.com/). Much cheaper than the Tempered Fretboard. They can be found online for around $25 - $40 dollar if I am remembering correctly. If fact, some makers, like ESP, have started putting them on some of their guitars now.
One of my primary peeves is
almost as soon as I pick up an instrument, "She who must be obeyed" is calling wanting something or other done.
Quote from: peterp on June 16, 2010, 09:44:18 PMOne of my primary peeves is
almost as soon as I pick up an instrument, "She who must be obeyed" is calling wanting something or other done.
wow, that's right at the top of my list.
That reminds me...
I'll get everything set up. Start doing some run throughs for arrangement. Two hours and all is quiet, the wife keeps to herself and gives me some space. AS SOON AS I HIT THAT RECORD BUTTON... THAT is when she wants to start talking to me. ::) >:(
100% agree with Saijinn if it aint the wife its the son or even the bloody Cats. Just had an airplane going overhead as well which the mic got when I was writing this. Need a room covered in egg boxes (their plastic now damn) and a big red light to show I am attempting to record.
I thought about installing a light fixture on the outside of the door to this room with a red bulb and a pull string from the inside. Or maybe a plexiglass spray painted sign saying ON AIR with a red bulb behind it. That'd be cool... but too much work for what it's worth. I'd always forget to hit the light anyway.
I'm fairly lucky. I do get the worst timed interruptions but for the most part if the door is closed they'll be real quiet and ask if I'm recording... of course their asking if I'm recording will be picked up if I'm on mic.. but at least it's a polite muss up.
I hate when people mention "this song" in their songs...
come to think of it, Im sure ive done it myself...
pet my peeve.
The thing I REALLY hate (amongst many assorted things) is the way singers and boy bands ALL suddenly feel the need to sing ballads with their hand on their heart, as if the song's so fucking emotional that their stupid little wannabe hearts are hurting with the fake emotion of it all.
Grrrrrrr.... feck.... gnash gnash....
Quote from: Greeny on June 22, 2010, 02:23:28 AMThe thing I REALLY hate (amongst many assorted things) is the way singers and boy bands ALL suddenly feel the need to sing ballads with their hand on their heart, as if the song's so fucking emotional that their stupid little wannabe hearts are hurting with the fake emotion of it all.
Grrrrrrr.... feck.... gnash gnash....
I'm with you there, Tim. Little douchebags.
Right now, the crickets and frogs are a problem. I suppose the city people don't have this problem, though.
An amusing and cool natural sound effect at first, but now it's a pain in the ass.
I even have a frog crawling up my window now. Then he does the "Whirrrrrrrrr" thing that forces me to do my vocal/guitar take over again sometimes. If you don't believe me I have photos:
(http://www.filebroker.com/avatar/frog1.jpg)
(http://www.filebroker.com/avatar/frog2.jpg)
(http://www.filebroker.com/avatar/frog3.jpg)
(http://www.filebroker.com/avatar/frog4.jpg)
(http://www.filebroker.com/avatar/frog5.jpg)
Bars on the window Mark? are the wall padded as well?
Blimey - that's a serious frog!
Paul
Quote from: Tony W on June 22, 2010, 11:39:01 AMBars on the window Mark? are the wall padded as well?
Ha, that's those 80's style louver shades where you turn the plastic stick to open and close them. I could use the padded wall, though...
Quote from: T.C. Elliott (PFJr) on June 21, 2010, 08:46:27 PM... but for the most part if the door is closed they'll be real quiet and ask if I'm watching porn again
The above is what I get.
I only got one....
Musicians that take themselves TOOOOO seriously.....
I know someone that was asked to play at a small venue.... Now They think they are an A-list superstar when they come to play open mics....
Diva moments included... LOL!
Horn players who think everyone came to hear them.
When I know for sure they really came to hear the guitar player.
Quote from: OsCKilO on June 28, 2010, 03:27:47 PMI only got one....
Musicians that take themselves TOOOOO seriously.....
I know someone like that too. His most 'diva' moment was when we were playing at a small festival in Surrey. He didn't actually know that I was playing there on the acoustic stage, otherwise he wouldn't have told me beforehand that his band were on the main, headlining stage where the likes of Jethro Tull appear. Surprise surprise, he wasn't on that stage at all! When it was his turn to perform on the secondary stage, he spent 15 minutes having a hissy fit at the sound engineers and demanding all sorts of tweaks to the sound set-up (he was one of 8 or so bands appearing on that stage that day). The eyeliner and total disregard for the rest of his band was also out of order. Man, I could write a whole book about this twat.
His other favourite hobby is to book himself on the last slot of an open mic night, and then claim that he's the headlining act! Unbelievable.
His album has been 'in production' for 3 or 4 years. He's always talking about how it's being mixed in some exotic New York studio and will be 'realeased' this summer, this spring, this winter... it just goes on and on.
QuoteMusicians that take themselves TOOOOO seriously.....
there was a brett michaels documentary on the other night, he doesn't take himself too seriously.
oh? it wasnt a parody?
This post will only cause me trouble I'm sure. As far as music and life I do what I can and don't take myself, or others at face value, or even too seriously. I've got a tough hide and can usually shrug off wisecracks and cynicism.
However, after carefully working out a gentle acoustic guitar piece, some all-knowing wise-cracking **** comes along and says, " It'll sound better with some drums in there".
No, it doesn't work! I've tried the count to ten thing
I just want to scream "If I'd wanted ******* drums, I would have put ******* drums in. It's a ******* acoustic guitar piece you moronic ******* **** head!!!!".
But I don't! I'm polite - so I smile and say "Yes, I'll give it some thought for the next version".
Peeved of Newark UK.
I frustrate myself often as my memory is a little short (from University years)...I will come up with a great tune, melody and great riff in my head...Only to have someone point out when I play it that it is a popular song that more often than not, probably woke me up one morning on my clock radio.
Not a musical peeve so much - but definitely a peeve to do with music recording.
Waddington International Air show - the RAF's show piece. And who do you think lives under the end of the display flight and preparation flight path. You might think living close to one of the major airports is noisy, but at least they have controls. These military jets have no such restriction, so I'll have to put my recording gear away 'til next week and enjoy the display.
Wow there we go - Er it sounds like the Red Arrows - it's definitely some jets in formation. ******* low cloud cover. If it's like this today before the show starts - What's it going to like on saturday - Bloody clouds it's Son et Lumiere without the lumiere. That sounds as though it might be the Lancaster, maybe not, I can't see clearly. Mutter mutter mutter mutter!!!
Leigh
Thinking back it could be a lot worse. We used to live close to Scampton when the Vulcan bombers were operational - right at the end of their operational flight path. Now they were noisy buggers - made the ground tremble. At least they didn't do what the Red Arrows did while they were there. One dropped by to visit some locals in our village, literally, took the roof off the house. Another one pancaked into a field too close for comfort. Gave some thrilling free displays though when they were rehearsing.
Leigh
I remember the WW2 planes flying over our house as a kid on their way to the nearby Farnborough airshow. Quite a thrill in those days. I can imagine it's annoying when you're recording though!
Being a drummer in a rock band with 2 guitar players who think it is productive to go over their twin leads time and time again until they get it right or the drummer passes out from boredom or alcohol (Both have the same affect)... only to have them tell you "You aren't hitting that crash right" or "it's too fast" or "too slow"... This will most certainly cause me to play really loud. Especially when you are trying to instruct me how to play my instrument. Drummers can noodle too when they get bored.
Just kiddin guitar players... noodling... It's not just for guitar players anymore.
Wait - that can't be fair. You get to noodle and paradiddle ?
Migs... LMAO... I must go practice the... Noodlediddle.
I hate it when the sound guy doesn't know how to work the desk at a performance........
Quote from: OsCKilO on August 09, 2010, 05:15:05 PMI hate it when the sound guy doesn't know how to work the desk at a performance........
Agreed. Walked out of a gig on Saturday night because of this. You could ONLY hear the drums. Clearly vocals and guitars weren't important.