hi guys
Let's say that you want to record 3 minutes song . Is it possible to record smaller pieces of your song and later put those pieces together by the use of mbr in order to obtain the whole song?
Let's say I want to record first two minutes today and the last minute tomorrow separately. Can I join those two parts together on mbr without playing the whole song?
any comments will be appreciated
regards
rafal
Record each of your parts of the 4 tracks, and then hit "select", then "track" and then copy or move...it gets somewhat easy as you use these features more.
I may not be clear on how you intend to record.
Are these new bits to be added to the end of the first?
Are the new bits intended to be inserted into the middle of the original?
Are they in a different tempo? (won't work)
Would they be on a different track but intended to play along with the original?
Quote from: M_Glenn_M on December 08, 2009, 03:38:17 PMWould they be on a different track but intended to play along with the original?
probably I know too little about operating mbr to ask that question. let's say that for some reason you want to record and store separately three parts of your song.
today you want to record and save verse separately
tomorrow you are going to record and save chorus separately
on the day after tomorrow you are going to record and save bridge separately.
on the fourth day you want to join all the parts together and form the whole song. Is it possible to assemble your parts and create the whole piece of music that consists of three parts mentioned earlier.
maybe tthis is possible but parts of the song should be saved on one track or maybe on separate tracks, I don't know. Please, help me in this matter
Record your verse on T1V1. Eat, sleep, think up a chorus.
Record chorus on TR2V1. Eat, sleep, think up the bridge.
Record bridge on TR3V1.
Move data (chorus and bridge) to TR1V1 using Move data facility (Manual pp.55-56)
Use Copying data facility (manual pp.53-5) to repeat verse and chorus material.
This is just one way of doing it. There are a few but this will work. And I am assuming that you are talking about a single instrument track although I don't see any problem in having this work for the whole ensemble. I just don't work this way myself.
Quote from: tony on December 08, 2009, 05:19:34 PMI just don't work this way myself.
how do you work? do you just play on your instrument the whole song?
do you sometimes save pieces and try to put them together without playing them on your instrument later?
I think that patching a song together as you describe would be very frustrating on the MBR.
Certainly doing it in bits on separate tracks or V tracks is just fine for collecting ideas but when it came time to put it together, I'd play the whole song to a new track and use a rhythm track just for the continuity and consistency.
Then I'd start adding other tracks as I played back the first one.
The first one is often a "scratch" track that is just used for the format or structure.
Then once I have some bass and other instruments I go back and do the first one over.
Quote from: rafapak on December 08, 2009, 05:39:08 PMQuote from: tony on December 08, 2009, 05:19:34 PMI just don't work this way myself.
how do you work? do you just play on your instrument the whole song?
do you sometimes save pieces and try to put them together without playing them on your instrument later?
An example would be this morning. I had a riff in my head. I recorded it into a new song, TR1V1. Then I thought of a bass riff to go with it so I recorded that onto another track. TR2V1. They are sitting there now. They are roughly in time but they are only there as a memory device.
If I continue with this I'll either work with a metronome or a rhythm track and put a harmony in, either guitar or keyboard. I'll do the whole song. I'll have worked that out from the riffs and played it through a lot until I'm happy that it is a tune that I want to do.
Then I have a metronome/rhythm track (I'll have probably shifted to a rhythm track by now). I'll try to get the bass, harmony (gtr or keyboard) and lead in place. Then I'll try and develop a more sophisticated rhythm track. Then I'll build on other parts as necessary.
That's an ideal progression of steps and I'll vary from that a lot but that's roughly what I will do. That's coming from a riff. Sometimes I try to do something to an existing set of changes and that's another story.
I hope this is helping.
thanks tony
btw I know what TR1, TR2 are. These are tracks. What is V1?
TR1V1 is Track 1 Virtual Track 1, and so on.
Quote from: rafapak on December 09, 2009, 05:16:46 AMthanks tony
btw I know what TR1, TR2 are. These are tracks. What is V1?
Think of the 4 track as channels. You can play all 4 channels at once but no more.
Behind each channel are 8 V (for Virtual) tracks for a total of 32 Virtual tracks.
They can be considered as "takes" or trys.
you can play any one of these along with any one of the others.
Boss calls channel 1, take 1 as T1V1
So then Channel 1 take 2 would be T1V2
And Channel 4 take 8 would be T4V8
You can see the takes or "Virtual tracks" by using the > cursor to the end of the series. Then you can use the Value +/- to choose which one to use.
Remember to then choose the correct Channel to record to.
Your next challenge will be panning and setting levels of 4 of the V tracks so they sound just right together.
Then comes "Bouncing" the 4 channels down to 2 in order to free up more tracks to add.
It sounds confusing at first but you'll get it with practice like anything else.
thanks guys