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Title: Headphone advice
Post by: Blooby on August 14, 2009, 07:49:28 AM

Launched and his wicked-cool avatar asked about headphones, and I thought it warranted a thread.  I know just about anything will work to some degree, but I play quite a bit with other musicians and am thinking about going through a couple headphone distribution amps.  So at least in my case, I would need closed phones.

Any input for Launched and myself?

Thanks in advance.

Blooby
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: cuthbert on August 14, 2009, 08:08:41 AM
I just got a new set of Shure SHR440 headphones because my Grado SR60s were bleeding into the mix.

So far, I like them. They are a bit heavier than my Grados, but also much less bleed-through. Sound quality may be a little better?
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: Flash Harry on August 14, 2009, 09:17:20 AM
Sony MDR-V500 DJ Headphones. I like mine. Comfy, quite light and you can rotate them and fold them and - they're just a good pair of usefull cans.
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: Sprocket on August 14, 2009, 04:04:29 PM
I searched, read reviews, considered forum recommendations(I did a search) and even scrutinized specs. I ended up with a set of discontinued Sony's...you can stiff find stuff even if its discontinued at a good price. Anyways I got a set of Sony MDR-XD400. Theyre birthcontrol headphones, meaning: you aint getting any booty if your ol lady sees you wearing them...but you might not mind, cause they feel and sound so good.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=sony+mdr+xd400&cid=1506093717132575380&sa=title#p (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=sony+mdr+xd400&cid=1506093717132575380&sa=title#p)
(http://www.hunch.com/media/img/s/s/o/n/sony-mdr-xd400-stereo-headphones-2842963.jpg)


But I also saw a set of Sony's for $25 that were my next pick, and have suggested them to other MBR users since...MDR XD200
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=sony+mdr&hl=en&cid=6715517324506184788&sa=title#p (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=sony+mdr&hl=en&cid=6715517324506184788&sa=title#p)
(http://imthi.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/sony-mdr-xd200.jpg)

If youre looking at specs, you want something with a good low frequency response something below 10hz, preferable around the 5hz range and then a good high frequency as well, but I usually care less about that side.
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: SteveG on August 14, 2009, 06:47:29 PM
I did have a pair I bought for about a fiver, cheap and nasty, but totally flat response ... great for mastering. Sadly they fell apart and I now have a Phillips pair that boost the bass too much :(
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: guitarron on August 14, 2009, 06:58:31 PM
AKG k240-best hunderd bucks i ever spent-had them about 15-20 years now-still work great and dont color the sound too much at all
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: Davo on August 15, 2009, 03:40:40 AM
Quote from: Sprocket on August 14, 2009, 04:04:29 PMI searched, read reviews, considered forum recommendations(I did a search) and even scrutinized specs. I ended up with a set of discontinued Sony's...you can stiff find stuff even if its discontinued at a good price. Anyways I got a set of Sony MDR-XD400. Theyre birthcontrol headphones, meaning: you aint getting any booty if your ol lady sees you wearing them...but you might not mind, cause they feel and sound so good.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=sony+mdr+xd400&cid=1506093717132575380&sa=title#p (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=sony+mdr+xd400&cid=1506093717132575380&sa=title#p)
(http://www.hunch.com/media/img/s/s/o/n/sony-mdr-xd400-stereo-headphones-2842963.jpg)


But I also saw a set of Sony's for $25 that were my next pick, and have suggested them to other MBR users since...MDR XD200
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=sony+mdr&hl=en&cid=6715517324506184788&sa=title#p (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=sony+mdr&hl=en&cid=6715517324506184788&sa=title#p)
(http://imthi.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/sony-mdr-xd200.jpg)

If youre looking at specs, you want something with a good low frequency response something below 10hz, preferable around the 5hz range and then a good high frequency as well, but I usually care less about that side.


I have some Audio-technicas but the sony set is supposed to be the best for the money.

Good headphones + MBR = Win.
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: launched on August 15, 2009, 03:53:23 AM
Quote from: SteveG on August 14, 2009, 06:47:29 PMI did have a pair I bought for about a fiver, cheap and nasty, but totally flat response ... great for mastering. Sadly they fell apart and I now have a Phillips pair that boost the bass too much :(

That's an interesting point - I heard somewhere that cheap headphones with poor dynamic range are better for mastering. I don't know what I'm talking about...



Quote from: Davo on August 15, 2009, 03:40:40 AMI have some Audio-technicas but the sony set is supposed to be the best for the money.

Good headphones + MBR = Win.

I tried some Audio Technicas at a music store, and they sounded awesome! Around $90, and the cord was straight, not coiled.

Coiled cords suck...

I want to try some Sony's next.

Mark
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: 64Guitars on August 15, 2009, 09:20:39 AM
Quote from: launched on August 15, 2009, 03:53:23 AMCoiled cords suck...

All headphone cords suck. I'd like to get some wireless headphones. The trouble is, they're very expensive and the sound quality isn't as good as a cheap pair of wired headphones. I'm hoping that somebody will make some good-sounding wireless headphones for a reasonable price someday.

Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: SteveG on August 15, 2009, 10:07:16 AM
Mine have a real long cord, about 5M. When I realised I thought it would be useful, but every other time I use them I have to spend 5 mins untangling the damm thing. Shorter cord next time .... something to bear in mind.
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: Sprocket on August 15, 2009, 11:06:08 AM
Mine came with a cloth covered chord, bout 6 feet of it, Ive got a velcro tie keeping it untangled and at a manageable length. It also came with a 10 foot extension cable also covered in cloth...Ive never needed that much distance with headphones, but the extension sure comes in handy with the Sony mic. ;)
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: launched on August 15, 2009, 11:18:55 AM
Wireless headphones would be the answer, but not knowing enough about the quality makes it a scary purchase. It will be cords for me for a while...

Extra cord length is mandatory for living room jamming, though. A friend of mine has a little jam room that I play in from time to time, and the electronics are 10-12' away from the musicians. The loser that gets the coiled cord is always in agony. I suppose extension cords might be in order, but a six foot guy is going to need almost 20 feet of cord to make it comfortable. I wonder how much signal loss is from that setup...

Mark
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: Blooby on August 15, 2009, 11:35:22 AM

I couldn't believe the url of this first site.  I was almost afraid to click on it.

http://www.goodcans.com/ (http://www.goodcans.com/)

http://songwriter101.com/articles/13471_0_6_0_M/ (http://songwriter101.com/articles/13471_0_6_0_M/)

Blooby
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: launched on August 15, 2009, 12:47:31 PM
Looks like Mr. Goodcan is a fan of Grados. I spent a lot of time on that site, and it appears that these headphones might be something worth looking into. Only 65 bucks for a product that is claimed to rival $200 brands of similar design. Grados are not the most comfortable, but that might not be a problem for some (Including me). I hate wearing headphones for more 45 minutes to a whack before a break - I feel disoriented if I leave them on longer.

They are probably not good for jamming, because they don't completely cover the ear. Sony makes better isolation headphones from what I'm reading.

I'm having fun, but Saturday's gone with the wind...  :)
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: cuthbert on August 15, 2009, 05:27:38 PM
Grado SR60s are great - as long as you don't mind a little bleed-through.

Whenever I don't use a microphone, it's Grado for me.  ;D
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: launched on August 15, 2009, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: cuthbert on August 15, 2009, 05:27:38 PMGrado SR60s are great - as long as you don't mind a little bleed-through.

Whenever I don't use a microphone, it's Grado for me.  ;D

That's a good subject within itself. I get bleed-through, but it's so faint. And I use cheap walkman style Sony MDR-G52's for recording. But I sing to a faint mono-track usually for the first take, and then with doubletrack and harmony takes I just sing along with the previous vocal tracks. It seems like the drums are the menace for the most part.

Thoughts, anyone?

Mark

Oh, PS - I'm seriously thinking about getting some Grados...
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: OsCKilO on August 22, 2009, 03:57:35 PM
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/snrama/sony%20products/MDR-XD200.jpg)

just bought a pair of these for £20 .......

Seem o.k but the bass is a bit much...



Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: OsCKilO on August 22, 2009, 04:07:28 PM
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx179/tat2dbeauty/Photography/headphones-1.jpg)

These ones caught my eye though.....


Can think why....... ::)


(http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/7/4/633822627670567775-headphones.jpg)



Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: Geir on August 22, 2009, 04:42:55 PM
Now those I want!!!!!

.... I mean the headphones   ::)  ::)..... you got that? right ?

???
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: Blooby on August 22, 2009, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: osckilo on August 22, 2009, 04:07:28 PMThese ones caught my eye though.....

Can think why....... ::)

(http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/7/4/633822627670567775-headphones.jpg)


I'm confused.  How would she listen?  Wouldn't it all just sound like, "Wubba, wubba, wubba?"

Blooby
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: OsCKilO on August 22, 2009, 05:56:34 PM
Would it matter.....?
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: Geir on August 22, 2009, 05:58:02 PM
no
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: OsCKilO on August 22, 2009, 07:11:24 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: SdC on August 23, 2009, 04:06:00 AM
Quote from: Blooby on August 22, 2009, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: osckilo on August 22, 2009, 04:07:28 PMThese ones caught my eye though.....

Can think why....... ::)

(http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/7/4/633822627670567775-headphones.jpg)


I'm confused.  How would she listen?  Wouldn't it all just sound like, "Wubba, wubba, wubba?"

Blooby


Ah finally "drum 'n bass" music has a pupose!
Title: Re: Headphone advice
Post by: OsCKilO on August 23, 2009, 07:35:39 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRUi_eikawg