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Title: Don't Think Twice
Post by: hooper on July 23, 2009, 05:47:26 AM
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Okay, one more experiment with the solo guitar/singer recording set-up.  This was similar set-up and processing as in the recent 'Los Angeles' post but on this one I also used a tip that Frank53 had mentioned a while back.... after copying the predominately guitar track to another track I then moved that track (00:00:00-00.5) to create a slight delay.  Was mainly trying to get a clear stereo image of the guitar and clean separation between the guitar the vocal.  One take, live, Micro-BR, $5 home-built mic.


Don't Think Twice (It's alright) – written by Bob Dylan
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Oldrottenhead on July 23, 2009, 06:14:41 AM
this is pristine wow fmgwabp we are not worthy
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: hooper on July 23, 2009, 06:16:40 AM
wtf is fmgwabp ??
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Oldrottenhead on July 23, 2009, 06:25:41 AM
fuck me gently with a barge pole, i use it when i'm surprised and caught unawares in a pleasurable way lmao.
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: hooper on July 23, 2009, 06:31:20 AM
naughty boy.... ::)
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Oldrottenhead on July 23, 2009, 06:33:39 AM
it is a compliment ken of the highest order
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: launched on July 23, 2009, 07:28:38 AM
If you were playing the harmonica as well I'm going to sell all my gear and join the Navy...

Such talent lies beneath the tech shadow!

Thanks for sharing this,

Mark
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: OsCKilO on July 23, 2009, 07:29:02 AM
FMGWABP twice with out warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sublime!!!!!!!!!!

Peace Ken

T(Osckilo)
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Jim1970 on July 23, 2009, 08:08:07 AM
FMGWABP!!

Great song!!

JIM
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: lg on July 23, 2009, 08:52:00 AM
Oh My God!
I'm sure sure if I'm listening to Dylan or Hooper!
I'm speechless....
Bravo

LG
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Bluesberry on July 23, 2009, 09:45:08 AM
It is so great to hear the real Hooper voice, as raw and naked as a jaybird, really great singing and guitar playing and harmonica playing and crystal clear recording.  This is perfect, I am in awe of this. 

Question:  what exactly does it mean:
QuoteI then moved that track (00:00:00-00.5) to create a slight delay
, how much delay does this give in milli seconds?  I am curious, I do stuff like this with my lead guitar lines sometimes, but I never really know how much delay I am applying.
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Greeny (No longer active) on July 23, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
Holy sh*t! Another amazing rendition. I like the original a lot, but I have to say that this is better. Pure perfection. And as always, you have a recording technique to die for. And I wasn't expecting that harmonica!
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: 64Guitars on July 23, 2009, 12:08:46 PM
Great performance. I loved the harmonica and fingerpicking (wish I could do that). And your voice sounds great on this, as usual. You have a knack for choosing songs that suit your voice to a T.

The production is perfect. Consider the experiment a tremendous success!

Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: hooper on July 23, 2009, 01:27:53 PM
Thanks for the comments guys.  :)  Now I've gotta try and stay away from covers for a while and do something original.  Plenty of inspiration around here for that!

64 Guitars... I was hoping that you were gonna jump in and answer BB's question, because I don't know the answer:
How many milliseconds differance between 00:00:00-00.0 vs 00:00:00-00.5 ??
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: 64Guitars on July 23, 2009, 03:00:56 PM
Quote from: hooper on July 23, 2009, 01:27:53 PM64 Guitars... I was hoping that you were gonna jump in and answer BB's question, because I don't know the answer:
How many milliseconds differance between 00:00:00-00.0 vs 00:00:00-00.5 ??

Thanks for reminding me. I was going to answer BB's question but I got side-tracked listening to your splendid song and BB's question slipped my mind.  :)

The last three digits of the time display (00.5) are in frames (00) and sub-frames (.5). There are 30 frames per second and 10 sub-frames per frame, so 00.5 frames would be 1/60th of a second which is 16.67 milliseconds.


milliseconds = frames * 1000 / 30

(or milliseconds = frames * 33.33)


frames = milliseconds * 30 / 1000

(or frames = milliseconds * 0.03)


In BRs that support MIDI, the duration of a frame depends on the MIDI Time Code Type setting which can be from 24 to 30 frames per second. But the Micro BR is locked at 30 fps.

Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Facemask93 on July 23, 2009, 03:10:36 PM
Excellelent choice of song to cover and executed to perfection , just listened to your contribution on SteveG's brain damage , loved it to bit's , 


Facemask93
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: hooper on July 23, 2009, 03:53:19 PM
Okay, 64....Great explanation!
So:  milliseconds = frames * 33.33

Normally I would be trying to dial in around 20ms for a doubling delay so I guess 00.6 frames would be better to use.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Diego Ayala on July 23, 2009, 07:51:52 PM
Excellent cover!  Made me miss my kids some more...  This is one of the songs that we always did whenever we got together to Jam on - my daughter Gabby sang it and my son Luis play guitar with me!  BB's ? and the answer = giving me some additional recording tools --- funny what all we can get out of someone posting a song => cool!!!
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: OsCKilO on July 23, 2009, 09:40:49 PM
I have always wondered.......

What kind of harmonica gets that tone?

It is so perfect......

I only have the Chromatic one that the boy smashed....And a Honer Marine band one in E (means nothing to me, as I dont know what tunings go with it ...)

I saw a Bob.D "brand" Harmonica in a shop in London's west end, But it cost £50,....

Alot of money to pay for me if it cant be used for much....

Anything that goes with a Capo on the 5th fret would be good for me, but what brand is yours...? Sounds Amazing!

Peace Ken

T(Osckilo, wondering how you get that sound!)
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Ferryman_1957 on July 24, 2009, 01:52:52 AM
Wow, superb. The vox and harmonica are particularly stunning on this one. Lovethem, just love them, and so clearly recorded. looking forward to more original stuff as well.

Cheers,

Nigel
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: hooper on July 24, 2009, 07:08:27 AM
Quote from: osckilo on July 23, 2009, 09:40:49 PMI have always wondered.......

What kind of harmonica gets that tone?

Anything that goes with a Capo on the 5th fret would be good for me, but what brand is yours...? Sounds Amazing!

Peace Ken

T(Osckilo, wondering how you get that sound!)

Hi T,

That's a Hohner Blues Harp, this one in the key of G.
Blues harmonicas are tuned to a blues-type scale and always in a specific key.
A chromatic harmonica can play in any key (that's the good news) the bad news is that they are harder to play... especially if you are playing guitar at the same time and don't have an extra hand to push that little sharp/flat button on the side of the harp.  ;)

If you've got the capo in the 5th fret you need to look at the chord forms you are using and figure out what actual key that puts you in.  Ex: With capo in the 5th fret....
* The chord forms for key of 'D' really put you in the key of 'G'
* The chord forms for key of 'G' really put you in the key of 'C'
* The chord forms for key of 'A' really put you in the key of 'D'
* etc.....

Hope that helps.

Hoop
 


Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: OsCKilO on July 24, 2009, 07:14:20 AM
Thanks Hoop!!!!!

You have no Idea how much that has helped me!!!!



Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!


Peace

T(Osckilo)
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Rolow on July 24, 2009, 08:00:52 AM
This demonstrates that you have good, clean playing and singing ability behind those clever effects and the mixing and mastering.  As my teacher once told me ;), you must start with good tone quality.  You can't create good tones with mixing.

Thanks for this great cover. 
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: SteveG on July 28, 2009, 07:49:16 PM
Nice. I play this one a lot, but could never get a picking pattern that I liked....or could keep up whilst singing. Gonna have to come back to this with acoustic in hand  :D

Is this a Bluesberry Bump?
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: BAG on July 28, 2009, 08:19:01 PM
Excellent rendition.... i enjoyed it a lot.

As for Osckilo's question..... if i remember rightly, when playing blues harp you use a harp in the key that relates to the 4th note (or chord) of the key the guitar is playing in.

For example
When the guitar is playing in A the harp to use is a D
When the guitar is playing in E the harp to use is an A

So to use your current E harp you need to be playing in B on your guitar. If you're capoed to the fifth fret then playing an F# relative to the capo gives you B.

I am not sure if this applies to anything other than blues. If i have made an incorrect statement please someone correct me as i may have mistaken  the 4th for the 5th. It has been a while (like two years) since i have played with a harp player.
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Bluesberry on July 28, 2009, 08:50:00 PM
Quote from: SteveG on July 28, 2009, 07:49:16 PMIs this a Bluesberry Bump?
Better than a Bluesberry burp.  Ah the sweet smell of nacho chips and red ale. 

This is a song that is so fine I think I will indulge in a little Bluesberry Bump of my own...ready...you know what to do...just press the button already...do it...go...BUMP
AND BUMP SOME MORE
There, thats better.   Now back to my red ale and nachos.
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Davo on July 28, 2009, 11:36:49 PM
Wow man that sounds great, almost hard to believe it was one take!  Well done.
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: SteveG on July 29, 2009, 04:40:28 AM
BAG, what you describe is Cross Harp, which is the usual way for Rock, Blues etc. Straight Harp, ie: harp in the same key as the song, lets you play the major scale and so the melody line.
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: hooper on July 29, 2009, 08:10:09 AM
Quote from: SteveG on July 29, 2009, 04:40:28 AMBAG, what you describe is Cross Harp, which is the usual way for Rock, Blues etc. Straight Harp, ie: harp in the same key as the song, lets you play the major scale and so the melody line.

Thanks for bringing this up BAG and Steve!  I  *think I * remember knowing about 'cross harping' years ago but had actually forgoten about it.  Gonna have to experiment again now.  Here's a nice little chart that also mentions a third alternative:
http://www.jt30.com/jt30page/pup/pup4.html

Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: BAG on July 30, 2009, 02:29:55 AM
Quote from: SteveG on July 29, 2009, 04:40:28 AMBAG, what you describe is Cross Harp, which is the usual way for Rock, Blues etc. Straight Harp, ie: harp in the same key as the song, lets you play the major scale and so the melody line.

Thanks for clearing that up Steve. I've never played with anyone doing straight harp. Next time i get a chance i'll have to see how it sounds. I also like the sound of the slant harp concept.
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: The Reverend 48 on July 30, 2009, 04:19:15 AM
One of my all time favs straight to piepod! nuff said.......
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: OsCKilO on July 30, 2009, 05:45:00 AM
Quote from: BAG on July 28, 2009, 08:19:01 PMExcellent rendition.... i enjoyed it a lot.

As for Osckilo's question..... if i remember rightly, when playing blues harp you use a harp in the key that relates to the 4th note (or chord) of the key the guitar is playing in.

For example
When the guitar is playing in A the harp to use is a D
When the guitar is playing in E the harp to use is an A

So to use your current E harp you need to be playing in B on your guitar. If you're capoed to the fifth fret then playing an F# relative to the capo gives you B.

I am not sure if this applies to anything other than blues. If i have made an incorrect statement please someone correct me as i may have mistaken  the 4th for the 5th. It has been a while (like two years) since i have played with a harp player.

Thanks Bag!

Thats helped even further....!

And I got chance to listen to this....!
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Oldrottenhead on October 17, 2010, 08:12:24 AM
thank falkirk for the dylanfest i havent heard this one in a while  bloody magic
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Geir on October 17, 2010, 04:21:16 PM
I guess I was on vacation when this was posted,

Listened twice now, but I don't think twice, this is alright !!!

It's more than alright. This is the reason Bobby was born. To write beautiful songs like this for guys like you to perform !!

Outstanding !!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: SwanSong on October 17, 2010, 04:42:14 PM
Hi there
this is super stuff. im actually more familar with the PETER PAUL MARY . version than
Bob dylan , and you have this down to a tea . even your vocals. sounded superb on
this. well executed enjoyed the memories. great classic. tc NEIL
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: steelguitar on October 18, 2010, 04:20:34 AM
Wonderful finger picking!
An excellent  version of this song!
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: corryhully on October 19, 2010, 04:21:16 PM
great rendition of one of my fave dylan songs. you do it more than justice here. cool
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Pine on October 19, 2010, 06:00:36 PM
Great job...played really well...add to that the nice harp work and the excellent vocal effort and you have an ace cover. Great job Hoop...loved it!

Pine
Title: Re: Don't Think Twice
Post by: Craig810 on October 19, 2010, 06:40:13 PM
Hello Bob! Oh it's not you? Perfect job on this. Nice... Wanna come over and play guitars and sing and drink? OK, I tried. Craig810