Have a friend who has just bought a BR, and is having the following problems in relation to memory cards:-
a) We cannot seem to delete the Big Dance demo song, as it is permantly protected. We have tried moving the switch on the card to the unlocked position but it seems to make no difference, and the locked icon is permantly displayed on this song.
b) He has brought a 2gb card, but as soon as you try and create a new song, it comes up with the "Card Full" message, Having read some previous posts on this I am guessing that the card may not be compatible with the BR, although we did not try initializing the card, which i am sssuming may work if the card is compatible.
Any help would be much appreciated
Initialize the card in the utility menu.....
Solves everything......
Back up your data first....
Thanks T, will give that a go
card might need to be formatted-FAT16
There is a switch under Utility/Song /> PTC (Protect)
The MBR is really picky about which SD cards it likes....
There is a list in the back of the manual of which ones should work well...
I haven't bought one of these recomended brands yet and have always had problems..... Card errors...Etc...
Quote from: andrewh on July 15, 2009, 03:35:01 PMa) We cannot seem to delete the Big Dance demo song, as it is permantly protected. We have tried moving the switch on the card to the unlocked position but it seems to make no difference, and the locked icon is permantly displayed on this song.
From the Roland U.S. Knowledge Base (http://backstage.rolandus.com/knowledge_base/):
How to Protect/Unprotect your song (http://backstage.rolandus.com/knowledge_base/index.php?HD_ID=104612).
Knowledge Base ID: 104612
Product: Micro-BR
To access the protection settings for your song, follow these steps.
Press UTILITY.
Press TR1 for SONG.
CURSOR once to the right.
Press TR3 for PTC (Protect)
If the song is protected already, the Micro-BR will read UNPROTECT SONG?
Pressing TR4 will unprotect your song.
If the song is unprotected, the Micro-BR will read PROTECT SONG?
Pressing TR4 will protect your song.
Or see page 60 of the manual.
Quoteb) He has brought a 2gb card, but as soon as you try and create a new song, it comes up with the "Card Full" message, Having read some previous posts on this I am guessing that the card may not be compatible with the BR, although we did not try initializing the card, which i am sssuming may work if the card is compatible.
Secure Digital (SD) card Compatibility Guidelines (http://backstage.rolandus.com/knowledge_base/index.php?HD_ID=104812)
Knowledge Base ID: 104812
Product: Micro BR
The following is a list of guidelines to help you choose a compatible SD card for the MICRO-BR :
Secure Digital (SD)
32MB - 1GB capacity. Larger cards cannot be formatted in the MICRO-BR.
Using Major brands like Sandisk, Panasonic, and Lexar is preferred.
Avoid using cards that are considered "Hi Speed."
If you're interested in the technical reasons that the Micro BR is limited to 1GB, see https://songcrafters.org/64guitars/BR/FAQ.html#mem (https://songcrafters.org/64guitars/BR/FAQ.html#mem).
Some people say they've successfully used a 2GB card in a Micro BR, although it can only access half of the card's capacity. But I'm a bit sceptical about this because it's not clear what will happen when you reach the 1GB limit. I think it's better to use 1GB cards only.
Here's an up-to-date list of the compatible SD cards according to Roland. (http://209.85.225.132/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.roland.co.jp/support/confirmation/detail.cfm%3FrecordID%3D1806526%26mode%3Dauto%26PRODUCT%3DM-BR&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhjFxm2iA_3L62JosbtURMSnJng8KA)
Note: The link above is to the Google translation of a Japanese page.
"bon appétit be non-renewed" :D
Thanks very much all for your help, much appreciated
There is a list in the back of the manual of which ones should work well...
So far I'm unable to find a store that even sells anything that old/small. The smallest I can find in any brand is 2G, and the racks tend to be stuffed with 8G and 16G cards.
I've had this thing for several days and am itchin' to try it out, but I guess I'll just have to try to find one online and wait for shipping...
memory cards found here:
try this link (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-1GB-Sandisk-Secure-Digital-SD-Flash-Memory-Card_W0QQitemZ200375667702QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigital_Camera_Memory_Cards?hash=item2ea7520bf6&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)
Quote from: Tony W on August 25, 2009, 09:42:01 AMmemory cards found here:
try this link (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-1GB-Sandisk-Secure-Digital-SD-Flash-Memory-Card_W0QQitemZ200375667702QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigital_Camera_Memory_Cards?hash=item2ea7520bf6&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)
Here's another:
1 GB SanDisk SD Card (http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDSDB-1024-A10-Secure-Digital-Package/dp/B0001A06GW/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1251217790&sr=8-7)
Quote from: baddolphin on August 25, 2009, 07:30:59 AMSo far I'm unable to find a store that even sells anything that old/small. The smallest I can find in any brand is 2G, and the racks tend to be stuffed with 8G and 16G cards.
Also, if you are like me and want to support your local businesses, a 2GB card will usually work - I have a 2GB SanDisk card that functions just fine. The MBR will only provision 1GB for usable space(The most you can get with an MBR), but since the cards are so cheap it didn't really matter to me. I'm sure larger cards will work as well. I have an 8GB card that I might try later to see what happens. Anyway it's good to know if you are in a pinch.
Just a thought...
Mark
Quote from: launched on August 25, 2009, 03:29:08 PMI'm sure larger cards will work as well. I have an 8GB card that I might try later to see what happens.
I'm not so sure about that. The Micro BR uses SD cards. The theoretical maximum size of an SD card is 4GB. Anything bigger than that is SDHC. In fact, most (if not all) 4GB cards on the market today are SDHC. SDHC uses sector addressing rather than byte addressing. I suspect that the Micro BR will not work with SDHC cards. But I'm not certain, so give it a try with your 8GB card and let us know. My guess is that you'll get an "Unsupported Card!" or "No Card!" error as soon as you insert the SDHC card and turn the Micro BR on.
I wonder if Roland will announce any firmware updates at their Sept. 1 product release (https://songcrafters.org/forum/general-discussion-b8/summer-namm-2009/msg44430/#msg44430) to allow the BRs to use larger cards. That sure would be a welcome update for BR users. On the other hand, I'm not sure if a firmware update is all that's required to allow the Micro BR to use SDHC cards. Maybe there are hardware considerations too. I don't know.
Quote from: 64Guitars on August 25, 2009, 04:16:11 PMI'm not so sure about that. The Micro BR uses SD cards. The theoretical maximum size of an SD card is 4GB. Anything bigger than that is SDHC. In fact, most (if not all) 4GB cards on the market today are SDHC. SDHC uses sector addressing rather than byte addressing. I suspect that the Micro BR will not work with SDHC cards. But I'm not certain, so give it a try with your 8GB card and let us know. My guess is that you'll get an "Unsupported Card!" or "No Card!" error as soon as you insert the SDHC card and turn the Micro BR on.
Hmmm... So that means there won't be
anything that will work before long. I haven't located my 8GB card yet but will let you know how it worked out when I find it - It might even be 4GB, can't remember. Either way I'll get the results out.
Mark
I have a 2GB SanDisk card that functions just fine. The MBR will only provision 1GB for usable space(The most you can get with an MBR), but since the cards are so cheap it didn't really matter to me.
Perfect, I'll pick one up in the morning- THANKS!!