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Title: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Jean Pierre on December 03, 2022, 10:34:59 AM
Ray Brookes is (among others) a formidable harmonicist,( listen in original song his "melanie bar"...)
I had asked him what kind of harmonica he used for the blues and I think he had answered me "Lee Oskar" (I'm not sure I can't find his message!)
)
and so as I have one, I thought I should try to learn a bit more about harmonica and this song "Knocking on heaven's door" offers a good support in G (my Lee Oskar is in C)

As always I looked in the archives and listened to the versions of this song,...there are 3 of them in the 2010s
..but there was no "reggae" version like Clapton, so here it is

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

thank you guys for listening and comments
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Diego Ayala on December 04, 2022, 04:00:14 AM
it has been a while since checking songcrafters ~~~ enjoying your arrangement ~ for a bit there thought you were going to intertwine harmonica with the leads, perhaps ver 2? cheers from my side
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Pete C on December 04, 2022, 06:49:36 AM
This is really really good JP ! I've been a fan of reggae since being ateenager and you've definitely got an authentic reggae groove going here with the one-drop beat, guitar on the 2nd and 4th beat, nice percussive fills and a lovely reggae guitar solo. Jah no !

Pete
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Farrell Jackson on December 04, 2022, 11:48:26 AM
A cool choice to do this song in Reggae style JP because it works so well in this genre, who would have thought that?
Everything sounds tight and the harmonica adds a fresh counter to the Reggae beat, nicely done!
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Ray Brookes on December 04, 2022, 12:48:34 PM
This is fantastic, JP. Love the sound of that harmonica (yes I use Lee Oscar harmonicas) and the reggae beat along with that nice guitar work make this an excellent track. Vocal too is very good.

Now more importantly - are France going to win the FIFA world cup? Australian team already on their way home.
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Jean Pierre on December 04, 2022, 11:44:13 PM
hanks guys for your comments

It's true that I was strongly inspired by the live Reggae version of Clapton that you can find on you tube
[Now more importantly - are France going to win the FIFA world cup? Australian team already on their way home.

Ah ah ah, are you interested in soccer Ray? yes I watched yesterday the two games that defined France (against Poland) and England (against Senegal) ... so the next game France England will be hot, hot, hot ... good luck English friends (but I hope that France will win)

To come back to the music, yes it's a Lee Oscar harmonica that I bought after your answer and it's true that on this harmonica the bend are easier to do :)

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Ted on December 05, 2022, 01:37:52 AM
The harmonica is well played, and is a really tasteful addition to this song – reminiscent of Stevie Wonder.

The band I'm in supposedly plays this song. We put it on a playlist for a gig earlier this year, but we never rehearsed it. How hard could it be? I turns out that everyone independently practiced a different version:

The Clapton reggae version: |G---|D---|C---|

The Dylan rock-ballad version: |G---|D---|Am---|G---|D---|C---|

The Guns n' Roses rock-power-ballad version: |Gb---|Db---|Abm---|Gb---|Db---|B---|

And our de-facto band leader insists there is a Bm chord in there (even though there isn't):
|G---|Bm---|Am---|G---|D---|C---|

So there is no version of the song found in nature to which we can practice independently. After pulling my hair out, I put together this groove sample and sent it by email, trying to get everyone on the same page. (Spoiler: Nobody paid any attention.)
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Groundy on December 05, 2022, 02:05:30 AM
Nice one, JP, WEll done.
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: StephenM on December 05, 2022, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: Ted on December 05, 2022, 01:37:52 AMThe harmonica is well played, and is a really tasteful addition to this song – reminiscent of Stevie Wonder.

The band I'm in supposedly plays this song. We put it on a playlist for a gig earlier this year, but we never rehearsed it. How hard could it be? I turns out that everyone independently practiced a different version:

The Clapton reggae version: |G---|D---|C---|

The Dylan rock-ballad version: |G---|D---|Am---|G---|D---|C---|

The Guns n' Roses rock-power-ballad version: |Gb---|Db---|Abm---|Gb---|Db---|B---|

And our de-facto band leader insists there is a Bm chord in there (even though there isn't):
|G---|Bm---|Am---|G---|D---|C---|

So there is no version of the song found in nature to which we can practice independently. After pulling my hair out, I put together this groove sample and sent it by email, trying to get everyone on the same page. (Spoiler: Nobody paid any attention.)

you crackle me up Ted.... wow... that is some serious stuff there !!!! 
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: StephenM on December 05, 2022, 02:32:50 PM
This is so very cool JP... personally I think this should go right on the radio right now... your vocals are immense.  all the rest is excellent as well... you smoked this one sir:

L'Angleterre contre la France sera épique !
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Blooby on December 05, 2022, 04:43:51 PM
Quote from: Ted on December 05, 2022, 01:37:52 AMI put together this groove sample and sent it by email, trying to get everyone on the same page. (Spoiler: Nobody paid any attention.)

I had no idea we shared bandmates.

Love the attention to detail. There are so many goodies here: the envelope filter chucks, the drum fills, the loping bass,tasty fills by guitar and harp. Lovely job.

Blooby
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Jean Pierre on December 06, 2022, 12:15:41 AM
thanks guys
about the minor chord in the song it's right there are versions without and versions with,

for my part I have the habit of passing before starting the reference (in this case the live version by Clapton found in YT) in the mill of Chordify which deciphers the grid (attention! not always very right especially in the complex grids=)

here is the grid he proposed me:
https://chordify.net/chords/eric-clapton-knocking-on-heavens-door-mpontvww

I thought it sounded good, I kept it :)



Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Ted on December 06, 2022, 01:25:21 AM
Quote from: Jean Pierre on December 06, 2022, 12:15:41 AMnot always very right

I use Chordify to be a last-resort when I can't figure out chords. It's pretty impressive, but it takes into account everything going on in an arrangement and then often unnecessarily changes the  chord. For example, in "Knocking on Heaven's Door" (the example to which you linked), it evaluates the minor pentatonic scale that Clapton is playing over a C major chord, and it says that there is a C minor chord. Well, technically, there is a C minor if you consider every note from every instrument at that moment – probably because Clapton noodles briefly on an Eb note. But the actual chord being played by the guitar and keyboard is a C major.

Judging from your cover of the song, you have a pretty good sense of what to ignore from Chordify. I always imagine it would be pretty frustrating and misleading for an inexperienced musician to use Chordify.
Title: Re: Knocking on heaven's door , reggae version as Clapton
Post by: Jean Pierre on December 06, 2022, 02:33:33 AM
QuoteJudging from your cover of the song, you have a pretty good sense of what to ignore from Chordify. I always imagine it would be pretty frustrating and misleading for an inexperienced musician to use Chordify.
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Right...you have to be very careful with chordify, there are many inaccuracies that need to be corrected