Really, no phantom power, I just got the damn sennhieser handheld condenser!
So what is the best dynamic handheld, sure sm57 or 58 or something else entirely?
Just started getting a better vocal sound in the car & I don't want to lose it.
Thanks,
Rock on!
Between the SM57 or 58 for vocals, I would recommend the 58. But there are plenty to choose from in the same dynamic category and price range. The EV767 or AKG D5 come to mind.
Farrell
this might be worth a read hook. tho more about using a preamp. https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=15136.0
Quote from: Hook on October 11, 2015, 09:06:05 AMReally, no phantom power, I just got the damn sennhieser handheld condenser!
You could always get a battery-powered mic pre-amp with phantom power such as the Nady DMP-2.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/747361-REG/Nady_DMP_2_DMP_2_Compact_Microphone.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/747361-REG/Nady_DMP_2_DMP_2_Compact_Microphone.html)
You can even get it at Walmart:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nady-DMP-2-Dual-Microphone-Pre-Amp/12457647 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nady-DMP-2-Dual-Microphone-Pre-Amp/12457647)
Or maybe you can find a bargain on a used one.
I'm sure there are other brands/models too, so shop around.
Thanks guys, I really wanted to trim the mobile studio down but I do like the idea of a battery powered preamp & cheaper than a new mic. I really wanted less cords, instrument into br...done. I've never recorded with a dynamic mic, opinions?
The Behringer preamp supplies phantom power - although I don't know if you can battery operate it!!! Probably not as it has a tube in it.
Quote from: bruno on October 11, 2015, 01:31:20 PMThe Behringer preamp supplies phantom power - although I don't know if you can battery operate it!!! Probably not as it has a tube in it.
Yeah, and I love the sound of that preamp and the fact that it has settings for other instruments but alas no battery. The Nady one one looks very cool but I would like to find one that has settings for bass and guitar as well as vocals. The Berhinger one is st up in he corner studio hooked up to the DP24 but vocals in this house Are next to impossible. My wife is taking 2 weekend trips in October so once the kids are asleep I will use the 24 but until then its the car mostly for me.
Rock On!
In the thread ORH referenced Geir mentioned battery powered mics, so I did a little searching a little and found these
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Nady/SPC-25-Condenser-Microphone-1274034485698.gc?country=us¤cy=usd&source=4WWRWXGP&gclid=CN3UtsXWvMgCFYGQHwodo4ICTg&kwid=productads-plaid%5E143951074122-sku%5E1274034485698@ADL4GC-adType%5EPLA-device%5Et-adid%5E57619015002#productDetail (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Nady/SPC-25-Condenser-Microphone-1274034485698.gc?country=us¤cy=usd&source=4WWRWXGP&gclid=CN3UtsXWvMgCFYGQHwodo4ICTg&kwid=productads-plaid%5E143951074122-sku%5E1274034485698@ADL4GC-adType%5EPLA-device%5Et-adid%5E57619015002#productDetail)
If I could figure out a mic stand/clip situation for the car I like this one ( more than I want to spend, I think I've spent enough...but....)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Audio-Technica/PRO-24-XY-Stereo-Condenser-Microphone-1273887989129.gc?country=us¤cy=usd&source=4WWRWXGP&gclid=CITy3ObYvMgCFdEYHwodaycDCA&kwid=productads-plaid%5E143951071482-sku%5E1273887989129@ADL4GC-adType%5EPLA-device%5Et-adid%5E57619015002 (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Audio-Technica/PRO-24-XY-Stereo-Condenser-Microphone-1273887989129.gc?country=us¤cy=usd&source=4WWRWXGP&gclid=CITy3ObYvMgCFdEYHwodaycDCA&kwid=productads-plaid%5E143951071482-sku%5E1273887989129@ADL4GC-adType%5EPLA-device%5Et-adid%5E57619015002)
the 1/8 inch plug would be really cool if you could use effects on the aux input, I assume an adapter wouldn't make a difference. With the stand I might be able to rig some Velcro maybe
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/condenser-microphones/tascam-tm-st1-stereo-condenser-microphone?cntry=us&source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=CMmD6K3bvMgCFYYRHwodcEkC_A&kwid=productads-plaid%5E80558298387-sku%5E279501000000000@ADL4MF-adType%5EPLA-device%5Et-adid%5E51870555867 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/condenser-microphones/tascam-tm-st1-stereo-condenser-microphone?cntry=us&source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=CMmD6K3bvMgCFYYRHwodcEkC_A&kwid=productads-plaid%5E80558298387-sku%5E279501000000000@ADL4MF-adType%5EPLA-device%5Et-adid%5E51870555867)
Price on this one almost seals the deal, but am I throwing $25 bucks away?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1033355&gclid=CLajs9HbvMgCFQePHwodrEILnw&is=REG&Q=&A=details (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1033355&gclid=CLajs9HbvMgCFQePHwodrEILnw&is=REG&Q=&A=details)
This one is interesting because of the multiple uses (i.e. Video possibilities)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=998714&gclid=CPaFl_TcvMgCFYcYHwodJkMI3Q&is=REG&m=Y&A=details&Q= (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=998714&gclid=CPaFl_TcvMgCFYcYHwodJkMI3Q&is=REG&m=Y&A=details&Q=)
Choices...so many choices
Found the Pyle pro for $21 bucks with prime (free delivery) so I should have it on Wednesday. What the hell is wrong with me!!!!
Hi Hook. I used a dynamic mic with the BR80 and there wasn't enough gain to be of use, instead I now use a Rode m3 condenser and it works great. Like yourself I record stuff in the motor, mostly vocals. It tends to be quieter than the house and I can find myself a nice quiet spot down by the river or lake without to much noise or distraction.
It's a real good mic the Rode m3, very well made, battery lasts forever and has a ten year guarantee, not that you'll need it. I bought mine used off an auction site two years ago, one my best buys yet. You won't be disappointed.
Dynamics, Shure 58 Beta - un-beta-ble
Hey Brother - I have one of these, and they are great mikes - condenser powered by a 9v battery. AKG C1000
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http://www.westenddj.co.uk/akg-c1000s?gclid=CNj3n9H4vcgCFUfkwgodZHYGaQ (http://www.westenddj.co.uk/akg-c1000s?gclid=CNj3n9H4vcgCFUfkwgodZHYGaQ)
I do like the look of both the Rode & the AKG but both are a bit out of my current price range of next To nothing. If the pyle is a pile of crap then I'll have to figure something out. Tomorrow I plan on trying out the br80s mic for vocals on the tune I just started and I should have the Pyle on Wed.
Rock on!
Quote from: Flash Harry on October 12, 2015, 03:39:31 PMDynamics, Shure 58 Beta - un-beta-ble
I'd go for something in this range as a step up. Otherwise, I agree that you should try to use the onboard mics before shelling out on a cheap mic. I think the onboards will be better than a $21 mic. You will just have to try to manage the hand noise that you might pick up with the onboards. Lots of people here seem to do it well.
BTW: The BR800 has phantom power and the ability to start recording with a foot switch. I use this method when I'm recording vocals into a mic and holding a guitar or at the keyboard. You do pick up the "click" from the switch but it can be edited out.
Hey Ian, I was thinking about the 58 beta, I have a few of the Samson equivalents & while not nearly as good as the Sure, I've not noticed a huge difference live so I'll probably give those a try. So far in all this buying I have only crossed the 3 digit line (kinda my own personal limit) once but at $130 I couldn't pass up the br80. If the cheap condenser sucks & realistically it might, I'll have to just deal with what I have for now. I might try to sell or trade the Sennheiser & I'm not getting rid of the Tascam 008.
I did think about the br800 but even used they are just too much $ for my obsession when I can clearly write and record anywhere already. I also just can't fathom not having at least 8 mono tracks to record on.
Thanks for all the suggestions!!!!
Rock on!
Quote from: Hook on October 12, 2015, 07:58:53 PMI do like the look of both the Rode & the AKG but both are a bit out of my current price range of next To nothing. If the pyle is a pile of crap then I'll have to figure something out. Tomorrow I plan on trying out the br80s mic for vocals on the tune I just started and I should have the Pyle on Wed.
Rock on!
Hook. I bought the Pyle pro. It was a pyle of crap and sent it back. The Behringer dynamic( about the same price) was better. Hope it works for you.
We will see, I'm not holding my breath bur I've been surprised before. I didn't get a chance to try out the br80 mic for vocals today, hopefully tomorrow.
Rock on!
Well yesterday was pretty good day. I put some 11s on the Epi Pee Wee and my buddy was able to set it up pretty well, can't wait to start using it. I also got the Pyle mic last night and I'm pleasantly surprised. It's nothing to get to excited about but I did a vocal last night that I had already done with the br80s, which isn't nearly as easy to hold and sin as the MBR was. I liking the Pyle vocal better, wish the br80s reverb was worth a crap, what's up with that? So far for $21 I'd say it's completely with it. I hope t be done with this new tune by tomorrow and you can judge for yourself.
Rock on!
I've just caught up with this thread.
I bought a large diaphragm condenser mic earlier this year to use with my Samson battery powered personal PA. The PA doesn't have phantom power so I looked for a suitable power supply and found this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dual-channel-Phantom-Power-Supply/dp/B00A2NEV0U/ref=sr_1_6?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1444994341&sr=1-6&keywords=phantom+power
It runs off 2x9v batteries and works a treat. I'm not sure how long the batteries will last as I haven't used it very often as I mostly use a Shure PG 81 which takes a battery when I'm playing with our band.
Just in case anyone is interested I recorded my first vocal with the $22 Pyle handheld condenser.
https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=24045.msg293914;topicseen#new (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=24045.msg293914;topicseen#new)
It's not the AT2035 (not as warm) or the Sennheiser (which runs a bit hot but is super clear) but it aint bad!
Rock On!
Can't find that particular one on Amazon usa Tootler, but it looks cool & I found an equivalent one for about $56. If I do go that route I'd probably go with the nady since it only uses 1 9v but the multiple ins look cool.
Rock on!
Quote from: Hook on October 16, 2015, 03:39:40 PMJust in case anyone is interested I recorded my first vocal with the $22 Pyle handheld condenser.
https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=24045.msg293914;topicseen#new (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=24045.msg293914;topicseen#new)
It's not the AT2035 (not as warm) or the Sennheiser (which runs a bit hot but is super clear) but it aint bad!
Rock On!
Hi Hook. I think I got my wire crossed. The one I'm on about was not a condenser mic but an ordinary dynamic mic. I have just noticed the condenser word in the above post. Apologies for the confusion as I didn't see/ missed any mention of the pyle mic you have being a condenser. Sounds pretty good too.
Quote from: Hook on October 16, 2015, 03:44:11 PMCan't find that particular one on Amazon usa Tootler, but it looks cool & I found an equivalent one for about $56. If I do go that route I'd probably go with the nady since it only uses 1 9v but the multiple ins look cool.
Rock on!
I wasn't sure if you would be able to find the exact one and the one you did find was relatively more expensive even allowing for the £/$ conversion but at least I hope it suggested possibilities.
I wasn't too worried about the two in/outs though it could be useful at some time. It was just the only one that I could find that was battery powered and it was battery power I wanted as I wanted the whole system to be operable independantly of the mains.
I would have been just as happy with a single battery single in/out power supply but the one I got does the job very nicely. It does have a switch for 12v/48v and an on/off switch which enables you to to mute the mic if necessary.s