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Title: BR files on my PC
Post by: VITZ on May 14, 2013, 05:25:10 AM
I sold my BR900 but kept the BR files on my PC and want to make these files useful. I have noodled with BR Explorer but can't get the WAV button to light up. I am using Windows 7. Is there something I'm not getting? Thanks 
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: Oldrottenhead on May 14, 2013, 05:43:56 AM
i back my files up to my pc from my micro br. i transfer everything on the sd card to a folder and date it that date. if i need to get to the wavs. i transfer the contents of the folder back to an empty sd card. there are two folders MP3 and ROLAND. i transfer these to folders to the sd card. then use the br wav editor to go through the individual songs and find and extract the wavs i want to my pc. i am sure someone can explain this better.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: IanR on May 14, 2013, 05:48:28 AM
To use BR files without a BR you must use the BR Wave Converter software to convert them to WAV files. 

ORH, can you convert BR files that have already been transferred from a BR to computer?  Or, do they have be on a BR to do the conversion?  I've only ever converted BR files to WAV files while the BR files are on the BR.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: Oldrottenhead on May 14, 2013, 05:53:44 AM
i have not succesfully done this on my pc, but i have with sd cards and cdr's, but the trick is to transfer only the MP3 and ROLAND folders, that way the br wav convertor will recognise it as br folders. i think when it is on a hard drive, the wav convertor cant disatinguish between all the different folders on your hard drive.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: IanR on May 14, 2013, 05:59:29 AM
I get it.  So you transfer the BR folder back to an sd card and the BR wave converter thinks that its talking to a BR.  That's very clever.

So, VITZ, that should work.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: Oldrottenhead on May 14, 2013, 05:59:38 AM
i am sure if you transfered just those folders to a usb stick with nothing else on it apart from those two folders the wav software would recognise that too.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: Oldrottenhead on May 14, 2013, 06:01:18 AM
the main problem tho is if there are a lot of songs in the ROLAND folder and then trying to find the song you want.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: VITZ on May 14, 2013, 08:30:59 AM
Thank you legends and seniors. Now grasshopper will try the SD card method. Note I am talking about bro files in proprietary file format. They are not mp3's. Will follow up later. Thank you muchly
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: Oldrottenhead on May 14, 2013, 10:03:01 AM
i keep the mp3 folder as i helps remind me which songs are in the bro files lol. you could probably get away with just transferring the roland folder to your sd card. but am not 100% sure on that.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: 64Guitars on May 14, 2013, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: VITZ on May 14, 2013, 05:25:10 AMI sold my BR900 but kept the BR files on my PC and want to make these files useful. I have noodled with BR Explorer but can't get the WAV button to light up. I am using Windows 7. Is there something I'm not getting?

The WAV button in BR Explorer will be disabled if you haven't specified the correct path to the BR Wave Converter program in preferences. See the last paragraph under "Initial Settings" on the following page:

https://songcrafters.org/64guitars/BR/BRX/BRX_Help.html#InitialSettings (https://songcrafters.org/64guitars/BR/BRX/BRX_Help.html#InitialSettings)

Once you've installed BR Wave Converter and entered the path to BRWC.EXE in BR Explorer's Preferences, you can click the WAV button to convert tracks from your backups into WAV files. You don't need to move your backups to an SD card as suggested. BR Explorer can convert them directly from where they reside on your hard drive.

Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: Oldrottenhead on May 14, 2013, 10:07:14 AM
i knew there was an easier way lol.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: 64Guitars on May 14, 2013, 10:15:27 AM
Quote from: oldrottenhead on May 14, 2013, 05:53:44 AMi have not succesfully done this on my pc, but i have with sd cards and cdr's, but the trick is to transfer only the MP3 and ROLAND folders, that way the br wav convertor will recognise it as br folders. i think when it is on a hard drive, the wav convertor cant disatinguish between all the different folders on your hard drive.

That's true when you're using the BR Wave Converter on its own because it expects the ROLAND folder to be in the root directory of the drive (memory card). However, if you launch the BR Wave Converter from BR Explorer using the WAV button, you can convert tracks from your backups to WAV files directly from the hard drive. The reason this works is because BR Explorer creates a virtual drive with the backup's ROLAND folder in its root directory so BR Wave Converter will recognize the backup. This virtual drive is created without copying any files, so there's no wasted disk space or anything to clean up after the conversions. It's all automatic, so it's very convenient.

Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: Oldrottenhead on May 14, 2013, 10:27:38 AM
it is true you learn something new every day, and the day you stop learning they put you in a box.

i need to get me the br explorer. and learn how to use it. thank you again 64.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: VITZ on May 15, 2013, 09:36:30 AM
Ok I was able to get be explorer to see the files. Then I set the file paths for be explorer and br WAV converter. I tried using a flash drive for the br WAV exe program and sd card for all the be files. The br WAV converter is still looking for a memory card and does not see the files no matter where I put them. This is data base 101 so what could be on the Memory card that prevents the files from being seen? Hidden files, operating system, info br puts on the card during initialization? This is not life or death for me because I did export the important files from the mem card but did you ever just want to know? Thanks
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: VITZ on May 15, 2013, 09:39:05 AM
Defaults to be I mean br explorer
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: 64Guitars on May 15, 2013, 11:48:59 AM
When you select a drive in BR Wave Converter, all of the following conditions must be met in order for the program to recognize that drive as a BR memory card.


If those conditions are not met, BR Wave Converter will display the error "Not BR series memory card."

If the "BR0" folder contains a valid "DISKINF2.BR0" file but no "SONGxxxx.BR0" folders, BR Wave Converter will display the error "Failed to read song list."

Additionally, each of the "SONGxxxx.BR0" folders must contain the following files:


If the "SONGINF2.BR0" file is missing from all of the "SONGxxxx.BR0" folders, BR Wave Converter will display the error "No song".

If the "TAKE_EVT.BR0" file is missing, BR Wave Converter will display the error "Failed to read song."

The "SONGxxxx.BR0" folders may also contain the following files. Their absence will not immediately cause an error message to be displayed. However, some of the files may be necessary for a successful conversion to a WAV file. For example, "TAKE_DAT.BR0" contains the digital representation of the audio tracks, so it is definitely needed to create a WAV file.


Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: VITZ on May 16, 2013, 05:20:06 AM
That should do it...thanks for all your help 9{}
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: Geir on May 16, 2013, 05:46:57 PM
Just wanted to add that what 64G said means that you also can use your local hard drive (or any drive for that matter) as long as the folder/file structure is correct. I use a local Roland folder to which I copy my backups when I need to extract waves from old songs.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: Hook on May 16, 2013, 06:53:13 PM
I assume this is all the same if you've backed up onto cd. I recently sold my br900 :'( :'( >:( and I have stacks of cd back ups.
Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: 64Guitars on May 16, 2013, 07:57:17 PM
Quote from: Hook on May 16, 2013, 06:53:13 PMI assume this is all the same if you've backed up onto cd. I recently sold my br900 :'( :'( >:( and I have stacks of cd back ups.

Yep. Just pop the CD in the drive, then open BR Explorer and browse to the desired backup folder on the CD. Then click the WAV button in BR Explorer which will launch BR Wave Converter with the correct drive already selected. All you have to do then is select the song from the drop-down list in BR Wave Converter, select the tracks you wish to convert, and click the "GO" button.

Title: Re: BR files on my PC
Post by: VITZ on May 16, 2013, 08:04:14 PM
I followed the suggested (required) fiie structure and indeed it worked. I mapped out a new drive for the back up files. On thing that I was doing wrong for longer than I care to admit was that I was writing BRO vs BR0. The number vs the letter is critical.....in my mind I say BR (OH) vs BR (Zero). Thank you all.