w/M: Andersson&Ulvaeus
Tim: Backing vocals and TJ Saxophone
James: Lead and Backing vocals
Mike: Bass and piano
Jarle: Drums
Geir: Guitars, lead and backing vocals.
Title: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: Geir on February 14, 2013, 06:04:04 AM
Post by: Geir on February 14, 2013, 06:04:04 AM
1979.
Tim suggested in his comment on my cover of "Knowing me, knowing you" (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=17562.msg218237#msg218237) that JK should do a cover of this one. Well .... here it is ;D
It also features my brother Jarle on drums !!!
This has been a long process .... many files back and forth ..... The mistake by me not suggesting that we all use WAV files, caused a lot of timeshifting issues for me in both Audacity and on the BR800. MP3 conversion does quite often introduce a timeshift !!!!
Does Your Mother Know
Title: Re: "Does you mother Know" Jemima' Kite covers ABBA
Post by: kenny mac on February 14, 2013, 06:18:13 AM
Post by: kenny mac on February 14, 2013, 06:18:13 AM
Yeh there is a big time thing happening in the vocals the music is spot on and that sax sound is great,the start sounds a bit jumbled on my ipad here vocally,the drum sound is also good.
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: Oldrottenhead on February 14, 2013, 07:13:50 AM
Post by: Oldrottenhead on February 14, 2013, 07:13:50 AM
magic geir your hard work paid off
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: Hilary on February 14, 2013, 07:23:30 AM
Post by: Hilary on February 14, 2013, 07:23:30 AM
Oh this is just fabulous - I love the song and it put a huge smile on my face ;D - nice one boys.
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: kenny mac on February 14, 2013, 08:20:27 AM
Post by: kenny mac on February 14, 2013, 08:20:27 AM
Second listen on headphones and its much better ,the bass by the way is outstanding ,I think listening on the iPad speaker there is a slap back effect on the vocal that works better on headphones,Geirs obviously spent a bit of time on the production,everybody on this gels as always,nice one,easy the kites
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: 64Guitars on February 14, 2013, 10:08:18 AM
Post by: 64Guitars on February 14, 2013, 10:08:18 AM
Fabulous! I love the high guitar chord riff at the beginning and throughout. Bass and drums are excellent, as are the vocals.
Yep. Never use MP3 files in collabs. Conversion to MP3 should only be done once and it should always be the last thing you do after the song is mixed, mastered, normalized, and trimmed. Having said that, here's a little trick I just discovered which might help if you have to deal with MP3s in a future collab. Instead of importing the MP3 files directly into Audacity, use LAME from the command line as shown in the following example:
lame --decode vox_03_02.mp3
(note that there are two dashes before the word "decode")
This will create a WAV file called vox_03_02.wav which has the silence removed so the tracks should line up perfectly. Why Audacity can't do this I don't know, since it already uses lame to import MP3s.
I discovered this with a simple test in Audacity. I created a click track in a new Audacity project, then exported that track as an MP3 file. I then imported the MP3 file into the same project and could easily see a timeshift of about 50ms. From the command line, I used LAME to convert the MP3 to WAV with the --decode option. I them loaded that WAV file into the Audacity project alongside the original track and the MP3, and found that it lined up perfectly with the original track.
For those who don't like using the command line, there are several GUI front ends available for LAME which might work, though I haven't tried them. Here's one such GUI front end:
http://www.dors.de/razorlame/index.php (http://www.dors.de/razorlame/index.php)
Just select your MP3 file and click the Decode button.
(http://www.dors.de/razorlame/main.png)
Quote from: Geir on February 14, 2013, 06:04:04 AMThe mistake by me not suggesting that we all use WAV files, caused a lot of timeshifting issues for me in both Audacity and on the BR800. MP3 conversion does quite often introduce a timeshift !!!!
Yep. Never use MP3 files in collabs. Conversion to MP3 should only be done once and it should always be the last thing you do after the song is mixed, mastered, normalized, and trimmed. Having said that, here's a little trick I just discovered which might help if you have to deal with MP3s in a future collab. Instead of importing the MP3 files directly into Audacity, use LAME from the command line as shown in the following example:
lame --decode vox_03_02.mp3
(note that there are two dashes before the word "decode")
This will create a WAV file called vox_03_02.wav which has the silence removed so the tracks should line up perfectly. Why Audacity can't do this I don't know, since it already uses lame to import MP3s.
I discovered this with a simple test in Audacity. I created a click track in a new Audacity project, then exported that track as an MP3 file. I then imported the MP3 file into the same project and could easily see a timeshift of about 50ms. From the command line, I used LAME to convert the MP3 to WAV with the --decode option. I them loaded that WAV file into the Audacity project alongside the original track and the MP3, and found that it lined up perfectly with the original track.
Click image to view full size.
For those who don't like using the command line, there are several GUI front ends available for LAME which might work, though I haven't tried them. Here's one such GUI front end:
http://www.dors.de/razorlame/index.php (http://www.dors.de/razorlame/index.php)
Just select your MP3 file and click the Decode button.
(http://www.dors.de/razorlame/main.png)
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: Oldrottenhead on February 14, 2013, 10:17:09 AM
Post by: Oldrottenhead on February 14, 2013, 10:17:09 AM
bo hanson lord of the rings..jeez i aint heard that for years.
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: Jarle on February 14, 2013, 10:41:40 AM
Post by: Jarle on February 14, 2013, 10:41:40 AM
This is my first collaboration here on songcrafters (exept for meeting at Geirs hut), thank you for letting me be a part of this.
You have done a really good job here Geir, well balanced mix.
JOA
You have done a really good job here Geir, well balanced mix.
JOA
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: Hook on February 14, 2013, 10:50:37 AM
Post by: Hook on February 14, 2013, 10:50:37 AM
Hell yeah!
Rock On! ;)
Rock On! ;)
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: Redler on February 14, 2013, 11:01:58 AM
Post by: Redler on February 14, 2013, 11:01:58 AM
Amazing job Kite!!
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: DeificDave on February 20, 2013, 12:53:18 PM
Post by: DeificDave on February 20, 2013, 12:53:18 PM
Pure class, a great collaboration from the kites again!
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: SwanSong on February 21, 2013, 10:18:53 AM
Post by: SwanSong on February 21, 2013, 10:18:53 AM
JUST fabulous loved it all the way through
u have this classic down to a tea. make s me
want to do an abba cover cheers NEIL.1
u have this classic down to a tea. make s me
want to do an abba cover cheers NEIL.1
Title: Re: "Does Your Mother Know" Jemima's Kite covers ABBA
Post by: Rata-tat-tat on February 21, 2013, 01:23:33 PM
Post by: Rata-tat-tat on February 21, 2013, 01:23:33 PM
Had to check this one out to see what the JK crew is doin these days. As I suspected... it's great in all aspects. Great recording, great vox, and oh so TIGHT!!! Brilliant fellas.
Tod
Tod