Songcrafters Rock Opera?

Started by 64Guitars, August 29, 2010, 12:53:55 PM

Geir

I think maybe it's a good idea to have at least a vague description of the characters before the "casting" begins. In that way we can get voices that "fits" the characters.

I'd be happy to take a singing role, but not necessarily the main part. Maybe everyone who is willing to have a singing part can sign up, and someone (the director or someone who knows most of the voices here) can delegate the different roles. It would be nice to have some new voices in this project too!!  
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Quote from: Geir on September 02, 2010, 03:05:49 AMBeen following this thread with increasing interest :D

I have a few thoughts on making it a consistent/coherent project.

1. The overall sound.
I think some guidelines on mixing and patches used for guitar/bass/vocals would benefit the project. Also I think one person (or small group 2-3) should do the final mastering (it may be a good idea to send separate music and vocal tracks to make it easier to get an approximately same balance between music and vocals throughout the project).

2. Vocals.
Quote from: Blooby on September 01, 2010, 02:53:42 PMJust a suggestion.  Why not have one or two vocalists for the entire project to give it some continuity?
I have had almost the same thought. At least the roles in the story should have designated vocalists. 1 or 2 I think is too few. But if the storyline could be written to have some more roles, more people would be give the chance to sing. But I really think it's important to have the same singer in the same role throughout the whole thing.

3. "Administrating" the project.
I think more than one person is needed for this. One (of the admins?) should be in charge of the main project, deciding who get's what part/song to play, and keeping an overview of the progress. One person should have the role of coordinating the songs lyrics-wise, that is, be a consultant for all the songwriters on the lyrics. This may or may not be the person who writes the story outline. And as mentioned in 1., one to do the collection of the songs and do the final mastering.

I think what you are saying here is on the money, bro.

What might help bind this together would be to assign a few members to help coordinate a couple sections, solidify the story outline and ultimately submit the wav files for review. This could be team based, and a member could be a part of any team he/she chooses, if not all of them - It may actually increase the level of participation because the task would not seem as ominous.





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Quote from: Ferryman on September 02, 2010, 04:07:11 AMI'll put myself up for production assistance if it is decided that is needed.


Awesome! That would be cool!

As there will be lots and lots of wav files to work with, I'd be happy to help here as well.
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Folks... I am finding this really inspiring... however I am gradually realizing that I have a different vision from the common head space in this thread.

I happily make my outline available if you want to use it, and I can continue developing it as a writing consultant.

But you are going to need a director / coordinator who is more in line with everyone's vision in order to produce a satisfying result.

The talent here is stellar and I relish the thought of seeing it soar at a new level.

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Quote from: tom r on September 02, 2010, 07:13:03 AMI've a fancy for being a dirty old lobster man but thats another story.......

I've known a few - And yes, they do talk tourists into sticking their finger in a claw!

Quote from: FuzzFace on September 02, 2010, 07:57:34 AMFolks... I am finding this really inspiring... however I am gradually realizing that I have a different vision from the common head space in this thread.

I think the majority of the discussion in the past several posts has been about "if" and "how". If this turns into a forum sponsored event, those issues need to be dealt with first. It looks like at least one of the owners of the site is on board, so that can't be a bad thing!  ;)

Don't withdraw yet!
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Quote from: FuzzFace on September 02, 2010, 07:57:34 AMFolks... I am finding this really inspiring... however I am gradually realizing that I have a different vision from the common head space in this thread.

I happily make my outline available if you want to use it, and I can continue developing it as a writing consultant.

But you are going to need a director / coordinator who is more in line with everyone's vision in order to produce a satisfying result.

The talent here is stellar and I relish the thought of seeing it soar at a new level.


      I think you're the only one who has volunteered to write the thing, so carry on, I say!! I think once the other 'posts' have been filled, the next stage will be the writer corresponds with the director to really get the project rolling...

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Quote from: henwrench on September 02, 2010, 08:47:58 AMI think you're the only one who has volunteered to write the thing, so carry on, I say!!


Ok.  The thing is writing itself.  I'm just doing what it tells me.

If the group likes it enough to run with it than that would be awesome!

For the record, regarding the "narrator" idea, I personally would avoid using narration as far as possible because I like to let the audience connect the dots.

In terms of multiple characters with singing dialogue, perhaps there are a couple of places (e.g. the psychedelic/dream-sequence portions -- "Guernica" in my outline) à la Pink Floyd "The Trial" from The Wall, but I think it would be tricky to pull off a dialogue-heavy rock album and that sounds, um... what's the opposite of lame?  

I guess my vision is somewhere between a concept album and a rock opera.

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More suggestions/ideas are welcome!  The best writing in my opinion is where an idea is added with every line... so ideas are needed!

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It's Labour Day weekend here, and being a socialist that's like my Christmas... ha ha ha.

I'll let this incubate and come back next week with a vengence.




tom r

How about a group of people from around the world begin to hear some chords and these chords somehow lead them on a journey which eventually brings them together?
Bit like a musical close encounters of the third kind?
maybe not..... can i write a lobster man song? :-)

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Quote from: tom r on September 02, 2010, 03:15:00 PM.... can i write a lobster man song? :-)


Ha ha....
Can someone fill me in on this running gag to do with the lobster?

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Lobster-man, he's universal, he is all of us and none of us.  He can nourish whole gatherings with one small morsel of his sweet tender flesh, he can heal the sick, he can make you sick, just don't forget the butter.  Lobster-man is so much more than a running gag, he is all jokes ever told rolled into one, he is every note known to mankind sung at the same time, I am literally crying from the sheet majesty that is lobster-man as I type this...have.. to..stop..(sob sob)...typing now.  More to come........



I am just messing with you Fuzz.

Lobster-man was an idea I threw out way back in the beginning of this thread https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=8335.msg110811#msg110811, an idea I had while vacationing on PEI.  Probably a combination of too much sun, red ales and lobster while over there.  It is maybe one of the craziest or sanest ideas I have ever had, you have to decide.  I may still use the idea sometime, I am very attached to it for some stupid reason.  I  also like how other folks on here have latched onto Lobster-man and are keeping the memory alive.  Its for the children, really, that we need to keep the flame burning, the flame under the pot.  Lobster-man will rise from the ashes, he will live on.

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