guitar neck position markings wrong????

[hardlock]

Maybe a pro guitarist can explain this to me.  

I just can't figure out why the neck markings are where they are.  It all makes sense starting at the nut moving up with G, A, & B but then C# ? WTF?

It should have C & D marked instead then the F above high E.  That way the missing half note locations would be obvious.  I don't get it.

Actually, I play by ear and never noticed this before but am now exploring different sections of the neck and couldn't believe this layout for the marks when I discovered it.

Can anyone explain the logic (or lack of)?

Thanks!

[Migs]

From 10million years ago doing musicianship at school, it has to do with modes.  You are probably used to the thinking in terms of the a major scale mode which is Tone - Tone - semitone - Tone - Tone - Tone - semitone ... or all the white keys for a Cmaj scale.

I just thought on guitars it was a symetry thing around the double dots at the 12th fret or octave.  I think one of my guitars used to have one dot/inlay in a different place which gave you a pentatonic scale.

[Farmjazz]

Mandolins have that position marker on the tenth fret. It took me a little while to get used to it after playing guitar for so many years.

[Migs]

Mandolins have that position marker on the tenth fret. It took me a little while to get used to it after playing guitar for so many years.

That's sounds like where my first accoustic had it's dot. Shifted from 9 to 10.

[OsCKilO]

My Classical Doesn't have dots......

F*cked me right up for a Long time.....

Then I got over it by Trying to Remember the feel of each postition......
(Muscle Memory I think it is called.....)

[Gritter]

My Classical Doesn't have dots......

F*cked me right up for a Long time.....

Then I got over it by Trying to Remember the feel of each postition......
(Muscle Memory I think it is called.....)

...but doesn't your classical have dots on the upper edge of the neck?

[OsCKilO]

My Classical Doesn't have dots......

F*cked me right up for a Long time.....

Then I got over it by Trying to Remember the feel of each postition......
(Muscle Memory I think it is called.....)

...but doesn't your classical have dots om the upper edge of the neck?

None.....

[Tony W]

I bought a 12 string because I couldn't find a single classical with dots. Why is that?

[Ted]

I bought a 12 string because I couldn't find a single classical with dots. Why is that?

Classical players are snobs.  They think dots are for losers.  Right, Tharek?

Seriously, here's a little illumination on the subject:

Schemes
On guitars, there are two popular fretboard inlay schemes:

• The most popular (1) involves single inlays on the 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, double inlays on the 12th, single inlays on the 15th, 17th, 19th, and 21st, and if present, double inlays on the 24th. Advantages of such scheme include its symmetry about the 12th fret and symmetry of every half (0-12 and 12-24) about the 7th and 19th frets. However, playing these frets, for example, on the E string would yield the notes E, G, A, B, C# that barely make a complete musical mode by themselves.
  

• A less popular scheme (2) involves inlays on 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th, 12th, 15th, 17th, 19th, 22nd and 24th frets. Playing these frets on the E string yields the notes E, G, A, B, D that fit perfectly into the E minor pentatonic scale. Such a scheme is very close to the coloring of a piano's keys and is of some use on classical guitars.

[Ferryman]

...but doesn't your classical have dots on the upper edge of the neck?

I painted them out while he wasn't looking..........