A Minute of My Morning by henwrench

[64Guitars]

I'd love to know what Pedro and 64 Guitars have thought about all this kerfuffle. A Real Debate?

So far, it hasn't been necessary to post a lot of rules about this site. To me, there's really only one rule that we all need to keep in mind:

Don't make it personal!

It's okay to disagree as long as the discussion doesn't degrade into insults and slander toward other members. This topic has come quite close to being personal but I don't think it crossed the line, so I didn't feel the need to intervene. I think the whole thing has been an unfortunate misunderstanding. Some people felt like they were the victims of a prank and objected. I think it's clear now that there was no prank, so I hope we can all forgive each other and move on.

In another topic, you wrote:

I crave the day when someone on this site listens to one of my tunes and says 'Sorry, this shit stinks'. So feel free everyone and inject some honesty into 2010.

I have to disagree with this. In music and art, there is no good and bad, only personal likes and dislikes. What one person likes, another can't stand, and vice-versa. So attaching negative labels like "shit", "crap", and "garbage" to someone's music is pointless, unfair, and insulting. These kind of generalisations suggest that the music has no value whatsoever to anyone. But that's simply not true. All music has value to someone.

One of the greatest strengths of this site is that people can post their songs and get a lot of generous support and encouragement. Why spoil that by posting negative comments about a song? If you don't like someone's song, the best thing to do is to say nothing. If other people like it, let them.

As far as my description of 'A Minute of My Morning' goes, it's called irony. It's a Brit Thing. We can't help it. It's in our gene's...

That reminds me of the opening track "Preface" from Robert Fripp's 1979 "Exposure" album. It starts off with him saying "Can I play you some of the new things I've been doing which I think could be commercial". Then it goes into some strange choral thing that is anything but commercial. I thought it was funny. A great album, by the way, with some interesting ideas. Check out the vocals on "NY3" from that album:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF5Xi0XV6N8

[OsCKilO]

daft? You sayin osckilo are silly. . . Lol

[launched]

daft? You sayin osckilo are silly. . . Lol

That's a given, aint it? 

[Tony W]

Osckilo, that reminds me. I thought you suffered from split personalities when I first joined the site. I missed where the Osckilo name came from thread......

Osckilo are silly.... as a collective. That threw me off early on.

Now I know that you are just a lunatic, but don't suffer from multiple personality disorder! My family is safe again...... 

[OsCKilO]

I'm Under YOur Stairs Tony!!!




Lol!!!



Osckilo Were 4 People....


Then they were one.......


Then One and "a Bit"......


Now Two (Come Monday)......


This Isn't to mention everyone that has ever contributed who is also Osckilo.....


Tiz a Collective.... For Whoever Wants to play!!!

[AndyR]

Looks like I been missin' some interesting stuff while I've been busy elsewhere! 

I listened to the track first and then read the thread... so it was almost like I was reading it as it happened... (except I haven't read any of the "back-story" threads that have been quoted)

I can't say I "get" the track, but I did kinda like it listening to it (and this was before I read any of the controversy, mind!). It's nothing like anything I'd attempt myself, or would want to listen to very often, but it does speak to me in some way.

I'd like to add this to the pot: there is a lot of material I hear on here that I do "get", but that doesn't speak to me at all. But this one touched me emotionally somehow - thanks for posting it

[Ferryman]

I've missed this one and the controversy, I echo 64G's comments above. In my view this is a soundscape that has been assembled and produced, there's definitely some real creative work in there. IMO it's not just noise. Bits of it created some interesting aural patterns and I've certainly heard worse (or duller) things on some more "challenging" discs that I have paid money for. I enjoyed seeing Duchamp's "Fountain" in SF MOMA, which was apparently selected in 2004 as "the most influential artwork of the 20th century" by 500 renowned artists and historians. That's a "found" object (a urinal) taken out of context and presented as art. This is probably the aural equivalent of the found object approach to art, Henwrench has taken several "found" aural objects and presented them as "music" (and he's probably put more work into this piece than Duchamp did with "Fountain").

Nothing wrong with posting it here - I use soundscapes quite a lot, although in a far more conventional manner. Did I enjoy it? Not as much as Henwrench's other stuff, which I find far more engaging. But it passed a minute and made me think.

I'd better stop now as I am sounding like the South Bank Show.

Cheers,

Nigel

[Gringo]

This is what frightened me. It is bad and I not understand how music it can be listened to or made for pleasures. 

[Bluesberry]

This is what frightened me. It is bad and I not understand how music it can be listened to or made for pleasures. 

HaaaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaaa, sorry I am not laughing at you Gringo, but I am laughing at the way this little experiment had such extreme reactions from the good folks on here.  Your quote made me almost choke on my coffee.  Is it shit, is it brilliant, is it the scariest thing ever heard, is the military secretly funding Henwrench so he can develope the ultimate weapon, a song so dastardly, so evil that it will render all who hear it insane.  It is such a hoot.  This crazy little peice of nothing has had a huge impact on here.  I still like it in a freakishly strange way.  I would not want to listen to this for 1 hour straight, thats where the defensive application of this peice comes in (instant insanity for all who dare take this beyond 1 hour of listening).  Whoooo Whooo.  I am still laughing, I guess that is a good reaction.

[henwrench]

Nice one, BB. Funnily enough I was seriously considering doing 'An Hour of My Morning'. Unplugged, of course 

                                       henwrench