Censorship?

Started by Bosko Schwartz, May 20, 2009, 11:34:50 AM

Bosko Schwartz

Flash, I love the irony of the final line of the song being, "Please don't fucking swear."  You're right, though, sadly, the impact of this type of humor is now all but lost.  You're also correct in that it's not just swear words, but words that are supposed to make huge, impactful statements, such as those you listed, that now mean next to nothing.  How do we describe something as being truly "awesome" or "brilliant" when these words are heard 300 times a day?

Each generation gets a little less formal, a little less professional, a little more slacker.  The human race is truly devolving, at least in terms of social etiquette.

SdC, you also have a point, though, in that the written word may still contain a sense of what the original words were truly meant to convey.  Then again, it just depends on who is using the words and in what manner.
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I think a special thread on "letting it rip" would be kind of fun...like this one...

But I don't think I'd want to see this sort of thing on every thread....and Greeny is right - there's other young ones that listen and read our comments (some of our kids that are quite accomplished musicians already I might add).

My 2 cents...
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Quote from: Bosko Schwartz on May 21, 2009, 01:57:01 PMEach generation gets a little less formal, a little less professional, a little more slacker.  The human race is truly devolving, at least in terms of social etiquette.

SdC, you also have a point, though, in that the written word may still contain a sense of what the original words were truly meant to convey.  Then again, it just depends on who is using the words and in what manner.

My difficulty is that the impact words make has been diminished. I have heard some very talented people on this forum produce some extremely well crafted and well played songs, and some that are not so but have a spark of genius about them. But I'm left crippled by the wanton overuse of our language. I can't say that a piece is brilliant because the concept of brilliance is no longer understood.

I run out of superlatives, so to emphasise the point, one is trapped into false emphasis - " that is fucking brilliant" which could mean anything from it's good to it's very funny or any other colloquialism depending on the locale / culture / age and any other distinction that one cares to make.

So I struggle on with a blunt set of chisels. Written words have to be read, and re-read.

However  Bosko, this site is the dogs bollocks and some of the finest musicians I have ever had the pleasure to socialise and work with are here, and yes, I really like this fucking place too.

 
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Bosko Schwartz

SdC, as much as I hate to do so, I agree that we should at least limit our cursing on this forum, but only because there are young ones here.  And that is simply because I have a 3-year-old myself and I don't go spouting off like George Carlin around him.  And that kind of goes back to the old school way of showing respect when there are "women and children" present, which of course, is a ridiculous premise, at least regarding women, as it almost implies that they are too "fragile" to be able to handle a curse word.  Which we all know is bullshit.  I have been around women that cuss like Samuel L. Jackson on a snake-ridden plane.  So I am torn when it comes to swear words, as I am of the opinion of the afore-mentioned Carlin that words are just words and to say that any one 4-letter word is "bad" is utterly ridiculous.  Words aren't bad.  They are inanimate.  They are abstract.  Some have infinite meanings.  So there is no word alone that could ever offend me.  It's all about context for me personally.  The word "fuck" doesn't offend me, but if you call me a fucking cocksucker and you aren't joking around, I of course will be pissed.  As for this forum and everyday life, I am old school in that I try to feel out my surroundings before spouting off curse words.  Like it or not, this is our society, and there are still some rules and boundaries.  I guess we just can't have it both ways.

Flash, I completely agree that the meaning of many words is now washed out and diminished.  Regarding your struggle with the English lanuage, I saw that you said my latest mix of "If I Walked ..." was "fucking ace."  I guess that could mean "fairly mediocre," "pretty good," "completely awesome," or even "pretty shitty."  I am going to massage my ego and take it that you meant "completely awesome." ;D
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Quote from: Bosko Schwartz on May 21, 2009, 02:59:36 PM... I saw that you said my latest mix of "If I Walked ..." was "fucking ace."  I guess that could mean "fairly mediocre," "pretty good," "completely awesome," or even "pretty shitty."  I am going to massage my ego and take it that you meant "completely awesome." ;D

Bingo! and Bingo!  :D
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Well, then, THANK YOU, kind sir! :)
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Quote from: Bosko Schwartz on May 21, 2009, 01:57:01 PMHow do we describe something as being truly "awesome" or "brilliant" when these words are heard 300 times a day?

Very often I find that when I say something is 'nice', people get really upset.  It has an effect. I use it a lot.  It's a nice word.

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QuoteI don't like using the 'C' word particularly, unless I'm pissed and talking to ORH.
this is a word i dont use very much unless i'm pissed and talking to flash harry but it's  still a pretty powerful word imho, i have used it in one song to great effect but i would never consider posting it here or anywhere actually it's just too offensive deliberatley so, maybe some time when i am completely fucking rat arsed on the gabby water i might.
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