What's your favourite old prog rock

[Ferryman]

Don't buy it - whole Canterbury Scene was more jazz rock than real prog. Remember, Fear my wrath Fear my wrath Fear my wrath

But they all had long greasy hair, complex time signatures and long solos so I won't get too wrathful if you feel they are prog.

Cheers,

Nigel

[Oldrottenhead]

i'm standing my ground nigel.

re prog rock i dont consider a band like marillion to be prog caos they where only repeating what was already done, as for dream theater  lets not go there. lmfao.
ooh eck missus i can feel the wrath

[Ferryman]

Yes, you still see prog as "progressive", ie moving forwards, whereas I see prog as stuck in a timewarp. I'm being harsh, but that's the fundamentally difference. But I still quite like it.

Now here's a question - Muse? Prog or not?

Cheers,

Nigel

[Ted]

Yes, you still see prog as "progressive", ie moving forwards, whereas I see prog as stuck in a timewarp. I'm being harsh, but that's the fundamentally difference. But I still quite like it.

On queue: Another plug for King Crimson. Many Prog bands pushed beyond the frontier of Rock, only to settle in their own territory--with occasional forays into other settled regions (pop, jazz, classical).

KC continued--and continues--to explore new frontiers.  Certainly not the most experimental band ever.  But Crimson appeals to fans (like me) who have one foot in the mainstream, but occasionally want to experience a some real musical danger.

Now here's a question - Muse? Prog or not?

By the static definition, no.  By the frontier-pushing definition, yes.

[Oldrottenhead]

Muse? Prog or not?

never been into them not really listened to them but apparently a good band,but ive heard them cried prog and they do sound like public schoolboy types but i dunno..

perhaps i should go listen suggest something nigel.

[Bosko Schwartz]

Muse?  Are you f-ing kidding me?  Nigel, it sounds like you just have a beef with Mr. RottenHead.  You would dare even consider Muse to be prog, yet discount Soft Machine and Lips?  Remember your own "time-warp" definition when considering Muse.

as for dream theater  lets not go there. lmfao.

I, too, am Laughing My Fucking Ass Off.  Dream Theatre is the reason I don't care that I am not a musical virtuoso on any particular instrument.  Because ability alone is pointless without soul.

[Bosko Schwartz]

My opinion on Dream Theatre is just that -- an opinion.  Even things like "soul" are subjective.  What I think is soulful, others might think robotic.  And vice versa.

I'm completely with you on Rush (Signals was their last great album).  I love Rush, especially as a drummer myself, but there's also a reason Neil Peart is not my favorite drummer, or not even in my top 5.  He's incredible, but he's sometimes too machine-like.  My favorite drummer is John Bonham.  Not the fastest or most technically skilled, obviously, but goddamnit, his beats are just so thick, so driving.  He was the backbone of an amazing band.  As for Rush, Geddy and Alex are more "human" and less robotic than Neil, so there's a good balance there.  It's why there is still some soul in Rush, IMO.

I understand liking musicians who are technically superior, but with me, it's just more a case of appreciating those with technical brilliance.  My favorite band is The Beatles -- 'nuff said.  Not a technically incredible musician in the bunch.

[Bosko Schwartz]

RE my above post:

Blooby ... umm ... did you remove your post, or do I now find myself in the Twlight Zone replying to something I thought I read but didn't really???

[Blooby]

Bosko, I must have deleted my tripe as you were typing.  Sorry.

Or did I? (insert spooky music here)

Blooby

[Bosko Schwartz]

IT DOES EXIST!!!  HA!  The beautiful wonders of the "BACK" button!

Recant?  Why would you recant?  Here it is ...



I would disagree to a point.  Some of my most enjoyable concert experiences have been the result of being blown away by technical virtuosity whether from Steve Vai, Jan Hammer, Kenny Garrett, Leo Kottke, or Neil Peart. 

As for the latter, I would be tempted to lump him into your above comment.  I am a fan of Rush (up through most of Signals), but I find his inability to swing/breath irritating at times.  Even when he did his Burnin' For Buddy (Rich) tribute, I found him immovably stiff.  I like him because of his technical brilliance.

Maybe the "soul" part of the equation is just incredibly idiosyncratic. 

My head hurts now.  I have to go mull some more.

Blooby