Songcrafters.org

General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Pedro on December 19, 2009, 04:52:57 PM

Poll
Question: What domain do you prefer?
Option 1: posthear.net votes: 1
Option 2: wesong.org votes: 2
Option 3: songcom.org votes: 0
Option 4: songcrafters.org votes: 8
Option 5: homemuzz.net votes: 0
Option 6: homerec.net votes: 2
Option 7: homesongs.net votes: 2
Option 8: muzze.net votes: 0
Option 9: mutte.net votes: 0
Option 10: tuneshare.org votes: 4
Title: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Pedro on December 19, 2009, 04:52:57 PM
I'm thinking of changing the URL adress bossbr.net to a new universal and recognizable short name. Something with 4 or 5 characters and related to music. Simple words like music and songs are most likely not available.

Do you have any suugestions?
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Mach on December 19, 2009, 05:20:31 PM
bTunes
WeRock
JamIt
or just have a symbol like Prince did...The site formerly known as BossBR.net  ;D
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: OsCKilO on December 19, 2009, 05:28:21 PM

All the Good ones are taken......

Only one I can think of is......




Player.net



Seems to be free....



Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: OsCKilO on December 19, 2009, 05:29:00 PM
Damn!!


Boobs.com is taken!
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Oldrottenhead on December 19, 2009, 05:30:22 PM
muzo.com doesnt seem to be taken
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Oldrottenhead on December 19, 2009, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: oldrottenhead on December 19, 2009, 05:30:22 PMmuzo.com doesnt seem to be taken
sorry it is
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Glenn Mitchell on December 19, 2009, 06:19:24 PM
What would be the key words? What IS this site all about?
 DAW? DIY? DAW-BR? Home recording? Collabs? Tune tweakers?
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Gritter on December 19, 2009, 06:36:01 PM
How about posthear.net

a little longer than you're looking for, but it is available.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Pedro on December 19, 2009, 06:53:38 PM
Quote from: M_Glenn_M on December 19, 2009, 06:19:24 PMWhat would be the key words? What IS this site all about?
 DAW? DIY? DAW-BR? Home recording? Collabs? Tune tweakers?


I think we are a songwriting community, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Bluesberry on December 19, 2009, 07:16:26 PM
Some lame ideas:

songrite
wesong
soundsong

Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: 64Guitars on December 19, 2009, 07:36:50 PM
Quote from: admin on December 19, 2009, 06:53:38 PMI think we are a songwriting community, in my opinion.

SongCom.org  ?

Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: launched on December 19, 2009, 08:39:42 PM
Quote from: 64Guitars on December 19, 2009, 07:36:50 PM
Quote from: admin on December 19, 2009, 06:53:38 PMI think we are a songwriting community, in my opinion.

SongCom.org  ?


I like that one.

SongCrafters.org is available too.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Ferryman on December 20, 2009, 02:14:59 AM
This is challenging. Although we have a lot of songwriters, we also have a lot of people that are musicians primarily seeking to improve their skills and share tips and tricks using digital home recorders. Look at the great work of the 48 Allstars - some great original music but I don't think you would call them "songwriters". But then the great thing is that you get collabs between the "writers" and the "players" so that the "boundaries" get blurred (which is why this is such a great community). And some "writers" try "playing" to backers (something I have never done beore and I enjoyed it!), while some of the "players" have become great "writers".

The key thing we have here is the community IMO. It's not just about songwriting, and there are plenty of those communities already. So I'd suggest something like:

HomeMusic.com/org/net - the community for people who create and record music at home on digital recorders.

(there is a HomeMusician.net but it's not so much a recording community)


I think that represents us better than something focused on just songwriting.

CHeers,

Nigel



Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: T.C. Elliott on December 20, 2009, 05:52:03 AM
Songcrafters works for me. You can craft a song by being primarily a musician or primarily a songwriter. It doesn't relegate either to the backseat in the car of music.

Somthing like HRC.net - Home Recording Community
HomeRec.net
Homerecording.net

I think songcrafters.net is a good one if available.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Blooby on December 20, 2009, 05:54:44 AM

How about "Porkys3D_TheSequel.edu"?

Blooby
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Oldrottenhead on December 20, 2009, 06:11:00 AM
how about www.wheresblooby.com
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Pedro on December 20, 2009, 06:43:35 AM
Great suggestions!

I really like songcrafters.org, although it is somewhat big.

Homerec.net is also free, and also posthear.net.

Also, muzze.net is free. What do you think of this one?
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: OsCKilO on December 20, 2009, 06:47:02 AM
Quote from: Blooby on December 20, 2009, 05:54:44 AMHow about "Porkys3D_TheSequel.edu"?

Blooby

I wonder if they will ever make another version of Porky's...........

Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: launched on December 20, 2009, 07:43:57 AM
Quote from: admin on December 20, 2009, 06:43:35 AMGreat suggestions!

I really like songcrafters.org, although it is somewhat big.

Homerec.net is also free, and also posthear.net.

Also, muzze.net is free. What do you think of this one?

indiesounds.org is available. Can't believe it!!
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: OsCKilO on December 20, 2009, 07:54:41 AM
Holy smokes mark!!

That is an Awesome Domain Name!!!!!!

Better be Quick if We are to use it though!!!
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Pedro on December 20, 2009, 08:07:15 AM
indiesounds.org is nice but the indie concept is a bit diffuse and can be problematic. I think that it first meant indepedent music, music made without the hand of big companies, etc... But now it actually means another thing, I think, something like a real genre of music with some specific characteristics. And that could create confusion to visitors, which is not good.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: danieldesete on December 20, 2009, 08:07:58 AM
Quote from: Ferryman on December 20, 2009, 02:14:59 AMHomeMusic.com/org/net - the community for people who create and record music at home on digital recorders.

(there is a HomeMusician.net but it's not so much a recording community)


I think that represents us better than something focused on just songwriting.

CHeers,

Nigel


Homemusic is my favorite so far
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: launched on December 20, 2009, 08:11:57 AM
Quote from: admin on December 20, 2009, 08:07:15 AMindiesounds.org is nice but the indie concept is a bit diffuse and can be problematic. I think that it first meant indepedent music, music made without the hand of big companies, etc... But now it actually means another thing, I think, something like a real genre of music with some specific characteristics. And that could create confusion to visitors, which is not good.

You're probably right - Indie is starting to lean toward a certain style of music.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Ferryman on December 20, 2009, 08:44:47 AM
Quote from: admin on December 20, 2009, 06:43:35 AMGreat suggestions!

I really like songcrafters.org, although it is somewhat big.

Homerec.net is also free, and also posthear.net.

Also, muzze.net is free. What do you think of this one?

I think the domain name should have some meaning so it at least gives you some idea of what the site is about. So muzze wouldn't work for me - it doesn't mean anything. Homerec is good but the reason I suggested Homemusic instead of Homerec is that there is already a thriving community at Homerecording.net and Homerec is pretty close to that. I wouldn't want them to think we were trying to compete with them.

Songcrafters IMO doesn't quite describe what we do - Songrecording or Songrec might be better and neither is taken. Or even Homesongs (altho there is an album by that bame), or something like that.

Cheers,

Nigel
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: danieldesete on December 20, 2009, 08:52:45 AM
I've been looking for a domain with share inside... sharing music is what we do here IMO. But there all taken already...
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: launched on December 20, 2009, 08:55:51 AM
tuneshare.org is available.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Oldrottenhead on December 20, 2009, 09:41:18 AM
i like microrecorders.org lol i never liked the bossbr namechange, even now whenever i am at pc other than my own i always type in microrecorders.org cos i know i'll get here. will always be microrecorders.org to me  lol.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: launched on December 20, 2009, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: oldrottenhead on December 20, 2009, 09:41:18 AMi like microrecorders.org lol i never liked the bossbr namechange, even now whenever i am at pc other than my own i always type in microrecorders.org cos i know i'll get here. will always be microrecorders.org to me  lol.

But you are such a macro recording kind of guy, Jim!  :D

Can't believe all the tracks you have made! Stunning!
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: mr2kewl on December 20, 2009, 10:29:30 AM
songcrafters.org has my vote

8)
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Gritter on December 20, 2009, 02:35:28 PM
songcrafters.org is good but consider songcrafters.net and songcrafters.com are already registered.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Oldrottenhead on December 20, 2009, 02:39:27 PM
i am very excited www.fmgwabp.com isnt taken. thats gotta be the one it gets my vote
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Blooby on December 20, 2009, 02:45:00 PM
Quote from: oldrottenhead on December 20, 2009, 02:39:27 PMi am very excited www.fmgwabp.com isnt taken. thats gotta be the one it gets my vote

I agree wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: mr2kewl on December 20, 2009, 04:03:00 PM
how about -

SONECO.net

for Soundcrafters Network Cooperative

it’s available

unless your looking for something that is intuitive in the name

that’s my two worth

8)
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Justin_Case on December 20, 2009, 04:17:54 PM
Went to godaddy.com to check - these are available

SharedSongsShowcased.com

HomeMadeMusicBox.com

SelfMadeSongs.com

RecordedSessions.com

GrapeVineRecordings.com



Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: T.C. Elliott on December 20, 2009, 05:46:08 PM
MicroRecording.whatever?
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Pine on December 20, 2009, 06:29:41 PM
i voted for tuneshare..it's catchy, ez to recall, and covers what happens here.

Can't remember...is this site open to ALL DAW'S now, and not just stand alones?

My biggest concern is that there 2400 members and only 11 votes? wow.

Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Oldrottenhead on December 20, 2009, 06:31:00 PM
why isnt there an option to vote for www.fmgwabp.com
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: OsCKilO on December 20, 2009, 06:33:30 PM
Microrecorders.org......
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: 64Guitars on December 20, 2009, 09:07:45 PM
I too think that the community is mainly about recording and sharing our songs. Songwriting is actually only a part of that because many members only do covers or backers and songwriting really doesn't come into it in those cases. Plus, there's always been lots of discussion about the actual recording hardware and how to use it which, again, has little to do with songwriting.

One idea I had was "SWARC - The Song Writing and  Recording Community".

But then I started thinking about the sharing aspect of the community and decided that I prefer "SongShare". Unfortunately, that seems to be taken already.

Hmm... how about "SHARK - The Sharing and Recording Kommunity"?  ;)  (just kidding)

Anyway, I think we need to emphasise recording and sharing of songs since that is common to all song posts, whereas songwriting is not.

Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Migs on December 20, 2009, 09:38:00 PM
... anything related to pr0n always gets hits - and Tharek loves it ...

EarPorn.com
AudioPr0n.com

and especially for Tharek:
MusicAndBewbs.com
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: launched on December 20, 2009, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: 64Guitars on December 20, 2009, 09:07:45 PMAnyway, I think we need to emphasise recording and sharing of songs since that is common to all song posts, whereas songwriting is not.

I agree that the site is multi-faceted, but I have yet to come across a member that didn't at minimum dream of doing their own vocals, or write their very own song. This site has been a healthy, positive aid to help people overcome vocal stagefright and publicly share their original compositions. I have seen so many examples of members coming out of their shells in that respect. To name a few off the top of my head (I know there are more):

Mike(48) - Vocals and Songwriting
Blooby - Vocals
Jim1970 - Vocals
Tharek - Vocals, Public performance, You name it!
Myself - All kinds of stuff I never would have done.

This site has had the pleasure of being the culminator of personal talent. I'm just starting my musical journey, and it's great to be a part of a group of musicians that have realized theirs (But maybe want to try something they have never done, like vocal tracks).

So yes, we could label it a file sharing and "Rule the General Discussion/Share Guitar Patches" site, but I know better and I think others do too.

I hope nobody gets mad at me - I do appreciate everyone else's opinion!  :D

Peace,

Mark
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Ted on December 20, 2009, 10:35:12 PM
Whatever you decide on, I suggest that the domain BossBR.net (when no URL path info is entered) should redirect to the "Standalone Multitrack Recorders" section of the site, rather than just rewrite to the new domain.  This would help to maintain the SEO branding that we already have.

For example:

http://bossbr.net
redirects to
http://thenewdomain.tld/community/standalonerecorders

But...

http://bossbr.net/community/index.php?board=86.0
redirects to
http://thenewdomain.tld/community/index.php?board=86.0
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: joseph on December 21, 2009, 02:24:31 AM
My personal favourite is homerec.net, so that's how I voted

Not that a change of domain could keep me away :D
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Dmann on December 21, 2009, 03:57:53 AM
 Heres my rambling on about it;

 If you pick a name thats really unique (and it dosen't even have to any relation to digital recording etc because you can add taggs to the search engine critera), you know like "ThePigAndWhistle.Org" for example, something akin to naming a online musicians hang out, like a local pub, It would be IMO more inviting and less intimidating to the people that are new to recording/writing/playing music.

 I visit a few other site's, I won't say the names because that could be ugly in the long run, but needless to say, once you toss "recording" in there or anything akin to music production, seems like it attracts the egotistical ass-hat know it all's that always post pot shots and sarcastic responses because "someone posted in the wrong area" or "didn't read the FAQ" or "Didn't use the search" or ..... the list goes on. These are huge factors in me deciding if I will A)even register, or B) if it's really nasty ever return to that site. I would imagine that most of the members here feel the same.

 I really enjoy this community even though I don't post much, I'd hate to see it turn into a place like those other boards.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Pedro on December 21, 2009, 05:06:59 AM
I completely agree with you Dmann, right now I prefer more of a funny and unique name than something with the keywords.

Songcrafters.org is cool because it is kind of like that.

That is it, we are an home recording and songwriting community.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Bluesberry on December 21, 2009, 06:04:55 AM
songcrafters.org seems to be leading the pack, it is pretty good.  What about shortening it to Songcraft.xxx.  I like that description of "home recording and songwriting community"
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Pedro on December 21, 2009, 09:53:11 AM
OK, I will choose songcrafters.org.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Flash Harry on December 21, 2009, 09:54:32 AM
www.somewherewherewecanallhangoutandstickourstuff.com

(it will be blocked by web filters, I can see the word anal in it....)
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Pedro on December 21, 2009, 10:34:07 AM
Quote from: Flash Harry on December 21, 2009, 09:54:32 AMwww.somewherewherewecanallhangoutandstickourstuff.com

(it will be blocked by web filters, I can see the word anal in it....)

Right in the middle of the word, very interesting indeed!  :D

Anyway, I really like this new name. It is descriptive and organic, reminds me of an old woodworker carefully working something out.  :)
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Mach on December 21, 2009, 10:50:50 AM
Quote from: admin on December 21, 2009, 10:34:07 AMAnyway, I really like this new name. It is descriptive and organic, reminds me of an old woodworker carefully working something out.  :)
Splinters!

It does have a seasoned yet fresh ring to it. Seems to cover all aspects of what happens here. Nice Job, I like it!
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Glenn Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 10:52:27 AM
I agree with the slightly shortened songcraft.xxx idea.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Oldrottenhead on December 21, 2009, 11:03:27 AM
already quite a lot of songcrafters sites out there. but 42% of the vote in the election so i cant complain.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: henwrench on December 21, 2009, 11:11:47 AM
when i first found this wonderful site, it was because I was searching for some advice about external mics for my micro BR. I needed information regarding my Boss product, and stumbled across this incredible site full of people who all had the same little box as I ( now I knew I wasn't alone) and who are all producing inventive and sublime music along with folks who owned other Boss recorders. While it (the site) may have seemed like it was an almost exclusive club for Boss users, at least it was easy to stumble across for future Boss users, a site that I think the world needs. With the name Songcrafters, what is there in that name that is going to put it at the top of a Google search? Do people search 'how to craft a song'? (don't think so) There are literally millions of websites hosting the subjects of home recording/songwriting etc. Again, how is your amazing site gonna float to the top of all the other shit out there? BossBR.net was the cream of the crop and I'm worried it will now be lost to new or existing Boss owners who need a home they can truly call their own. I hope somebody understands...
                                         henwrench
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Bluesberry on December 21, 2009, 11:17:03 AM
Quote from: oldrottenhead on December 21, 2009, 11:03:27 AMalready quite a lot of songcrafters sites out there. but 42% of the vote in the election so i cant complain.
Just thinking about this and I thought about Soundcraft, after all we craft art and beauty out of sound which is the raw ingredient.

As I was typing henwrench just posted his well said post.  It was exactly beacuse of looking for information on our BR machines, microBR in my case that I found this site at all.  It is true that we may loose something by distancing ourselves from the BossBR line.  Interesting discussion goin on here.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Sprocket on December 21, 2009, 12:15:09 PM
SongCrafters, custom songs...in about an hour.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: joseph on December 21, 2009, 12:29:41 PM
Haha, Sprocket.

I can't help but think of Lenscrafters (or the Futurama parody, Handcrafters) when I see the name. Not that that's a bad thing.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: launched on December 21, 2009, 01:09:18 PM
I was thinking the same as you guys a while back, but the format of the site has changed to one that is not married to any particular recording device. As a matter of fact, the site didn't used to have a Boss label in it's name (Microrecorders.org), and the primary focus was on miniature recording devices - Namely the MicroBR, but only because Pedro owned one.

And then it changed to Bossbr.net, focusing it's attention on the entire suite of Boss BR recording devices with gratuitous areas for the "Other" people. A lot of the members were a little chapped by this change if I remember correctly. I was more confused than anything because I joined just before the transition. In the end, everybody got over it.

And then the lightbulb went on to promote this site as the greatest thing the world has ever seen in the eyes of the Boss home recorder, which promptly turned it right on its ear. The iron curtain fell, and now we have what we have. Again, a lot of the members were a little chapped by this change, but it did draw in a wealth of talented songwriters/contributors and ideamakers whom many of us have had a hell of a time collaborating with. So a lot of good came out of it, but economics prevailed due to the easiest place to upload an mp3 that the web has ever seen to date.

So in the end I think it is a matter of what Pedro wants to do. Host a forum that caters to a couple thousand so called members that make one post complaining about how frustrated they are with their MicroBR and now BRxxx, never to be heard from again after many of us selflessly provide quality answers? Or help form a kick ass community for a hundred or so and growing members who off and on want to post a few questions/answers, tell a few stories, post a little music and help support their musical brothers and sisters out in some way or another.

This community grows stronger and more wonderful all the time, and it isn't specifically because someone was told where the on button to their recording unit was. I said that in jest, but sometimes I wonder.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: launched on December 21, 2009, 01:10:24 PM
Quote from: Sprocket on December 21, 2009, 12:15:09 PMSongCrafters, custom songs...in about an hour.

That's funny. Considering who it's coming from, it's even funnier.
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Ferryman on December 21, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
Damn democracy! Who were those 8 people? I'm with Henwrench on this one, I don't like Songcrafters, sounds like a crochet site or something like that! But at the end of the day this community will be what we make it and it's also Pedro's to do with as he wants, I am still grateful for all the work he has put in here.

Bit odd for someone who was keen to flush the staid musical establishment down the toilet in 1977 that I don't want anything to change. But I am old now, so things are different and I smell more of wee.

Cheers,

Nigel
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: launched on December 21, 2009, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: Ferryman on December 21, 2009, 02:24:35 PMBit odd for someone who was keen to flush the staid musical establishment down the toilet in 1977 that I don't want anything to change. But I am old now, so things are different and I smell more of wee.

Ha - Is that what I have to look forward to? I hope you finish the reprisal to Cassilda's Song before it all goes dark! ;D

Peace,

Mark
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: fenderbender on December 21, 2009, 03:26:28 PM

 so whats gonna happen people ???????
im still stuck in coming to terms with the new wonderful CD disc  ;D ;D
( I read somewhere that they dont skip or scratch)
no seriously whats -the future ????-after me starting to find my way around this fab site--
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: launched on December 21, 2009, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: fenderbender on December 21, 2009, 03:26:28 PMso whats gonna happen people ???????
im still stuck in coming to terms with the new wonderful CD disc  ;D ;D
( I read somewhere that they dont skip or scratch)
no seriously whats -the future ????-after me starting to find my way around this fab site--


The future is more Elderly Brothers, I hope. Fab stuff!!  8)
Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: fenderbender on December 22, 2009, 02:27:11 AM

well holy moses and saints alive  :o :o :o :o
I need a trip to my local specsavers
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

just noticed the new name --
does'nt it look class -----
CONGRATS ---CONGRATS-----

Title: Re: Suggest a new domain
Post by: Groundy on December 22, 2009, 03:27:12 AM
Quote from: launched on December 21, 2009, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: fenderbender on December 21, 2009, 03:26:28 PMso whats gonna happen people ???????
im still stuck in coming to terms with the new wonderful CD disc  ;D ;D
( I read somewhere that they dont skip or scratch)
no seriously whats -the future ????-after me starting to find my way around this fab site--


The future is more Elderly Brothers, I hope. Fab stuff!!  8)



Must be nearly time for another Tommy !!!!!   Alex