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Title: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Johnbee on October 19, 2023, 07:41:57 AM
This might be my final offering.

Sometimes I don't know why I do this.  It takes several weeks to put together one of these things and takes everything in me to  produce and in the end only a small handful of people (at best) hear them.  I guess what it all comes down to is I like to play around with sounds and music notes to see what I can come up with.  It's a discovery excursion.  Perhaps I'm looking at what might have been if I would've made better choices in the earlier part of my life when all I had was an acoustic guitar and a cassette recorder.  Anyway, enjoy!

:) John B

You wanted black.  You wanted red
You wanted sympathy but got scorned instead
You wanted wrong.  You wanted right
You wanted darkness gone.  You love the light
Anything you wanted anytime.

You wanted sparks.  You wanted stars
You fought pandemonium but by and large
you bought a dream and broke the rules
Now anytime you draw the line you play the fool
Knowing that it's truth you seek
Choosing words you cannot speak
You just can't be wrong
Friends have tried to see your way
Knowing what you are
No one wants to understand it's just like you.

(Break)

Take it to the top
You won't stop.
You try to make a name for yourself
doing what you know
You must be stay silent.  You be nobody
Just keep it to yourself
Don't share it with the world, please!

You wanted high.  You wanted low
You wanted all those things to make a warm heart cold
You wanted fast.  You wanted slow
but everywhere you look there's only so much soul
Knowing that it's everywhere
They just don't care.


c 2023 John Bowen Music
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Farrell Jackson on October 19, 2023, 09:37:11 AM
The chord progressions you use are always a treat and very creative John! As always, great vocals/lyrics and I was happy to hear you added a vocal harmony at the last verse. You should do more of that because it sounds great and gave a slight change up to the song. The 5 second pause at 1:45 is a great setup for the flute solo that follows. This is excellent songwriting that is way beyond my skills.

John, I think we all go through moments of wondering why we do this, I know I do. It is time consuming, heart and soul work but can be rewarding when people listen and comment on your work. If you are like me, I think my latest song creations are my best until I record them and hear them too many times to count during the process. By the time they are finished I end up questioning myself on the choices I made for the song. I'm rambling a bit, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that the best reward is knowing you've created something unique, out of thin air, which a lot of people can't do. I think you write incredible songs. To quote Ricky Nelson's lyrics in Garden Party "You see, ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself". I'm not sure if any of ramblings makes sense or help but I hope you keep writing and posting songs because I enjoy listening to them. I'm guilty of not commenting enough and I need to put more effort into that.

Cheers,

Farrell
   
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Ray Brookes on October 19, 2023, 01:04:43 PM
We all go through the same dilemma, John. Spending hours and hours on creating something only to realise that only a handful of people bother listening to it. Regrettably it's the nature of the creative beast to do this so never give up.

I always like listening to your songs with the interesting chord progressions/melodies. This song is in your own inimitable style. Very professionally produced and arranged with every instrument carefully placed.
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Johnbee on October 20, 2023, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: Ray Brookes on October 19, 2023, 01:04:43 PMWe all go through the same dilemma, John. Spending hours and hours on creating something only to realise that only a handful of people bother listening to it. Regrettably it's the nature of the creative beast to do this so never give up.

I always like listening to your songs with the interesting chord progressions/melodies. This song is in your own inimitable style. Very professionally produced and arranged with every instrument carefully placed.

Thanks Ray and Farrell.

 :) John B
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: StephenM on October 20, 2023, 08:59:58 PM
Your voice has alot of emotion..  its like desire..
The illusive success... yes... why do we do it.. well sometimes i am hungry and eat... can't just do that!  Personally I have enjoyed hearing your tracks.  Nobody i know does anything like your songs.  Unique and very good.  The comps of your music were very excellent musically...as these songs you can make...
Somewhere down the line we will require an encore!
This song sounds really good.
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: thetworegs on October 21, 2023, 02:45:34 AM
I agree with all that has been said I question why too but I think I do it as a form of therapy and try to accept what I do isn't everybody's cup of tea and only a few will comment but mostly I do it for myself and the like minded .....so carry on John accept you need to be creative one because it helps you release  and two because your good at it too.and three I enjoy listening to what you come up with.... 
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Pete C on October 21, 2023, 04:45:25 AM
A lovely and interesting song John. As somebody who could never write a piece of music like this it would be a shame to see you give up when you have such a talent. Even if only a small number of people get to listen to your work at least you've provided them with the pleasure of hearing it

Pete
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Johnbee on October 22, 2023, 06:33:05 AM
Thanks Steven, 2 regs and Pete.  Thank you for taking the time to listen & comment.

 :) John B
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: godinqc on October 23, 2023, 05:11:28 PM
Great work, I really liked the chord changes in this piece.
Lovely vocals and great drums, guitar and bass.  Very creative song and really well produced. 
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: SE on October 23, 2023, 06:02:33 PM
Always, complete with excellent production, big respect!!
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Blooby on October 23, 2023, 07:58:29 PM

John can tell you that although there have been technical issues, I have been remixing our debut album to death. We have culled what we think is the best of what we have posted here. I am legitimately proud of what we have, but I know it will be released to a deafening silence. It is what it is.

If you choose not to post here, that would be a shame, but please don't be discouraged. I have been consistently gobsmacked over your melodic and tonal choices. Wherever you are on this journey, just be true to yourself and keep churning it out...even if only to put a wry grin on your face.

Know that you are appreciated here.

Blooby/Bruce

Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Redler on October 24, 2023, 08:31:00 AM
Absolutely brilliant, John! Fine job with composition and arrangement. Top class performance, too.
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Trist on October 24, 2023, 10:55:22 AM
you would be ideal at composing  a musical for thetre . you have all the aspects in the cpnstruction and style, very musical and different

enjoyed
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Zoltan on October 25, 2023, 04:32:35 AM
JohnBee is in a genre of his own. The style is instanly recognizable. There's SOMETHING in JohnBees voice and the way he sings that reminds me of something. Something lost and something familiar. Was there someone who had the same kind of flow in the 70's- early 80's, or have i once again been time travelling back and forth? :D

It would be interesting to be the fly on the wall and see how JB works. The compositions are so carefully planned and together that i would imagine he's a real nitpicker when it comes to details. Like a mathematician, or a somekind of a musical scientist. Yet it's the playfullness of it all that throws me off!

It's kinda like he'd start out with a strict and by the book type of composition and come the night time the fairies would come out and play with him and the song.

Great stuff!

(I know i might sometimes bend the language a bit, but in this case the fairies do now have any hidden meanings :D just thought to clarify!).
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Johnbee on October 25, 2023, 10:17:07 AM
Godingc,SE,Blooby,Trist,Redler & Zoltan-Thanks so much for listening and your feedback, guys
:) John B

@Zoltan-I get what you mean.  No worries. ;)

Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Zoltan on October 25, 2023, 10:38:27 AM
Damn... I didn't see (that means read!) the song post.

I can understand your frustration. Your songs are on such a level that they're bound to take a lot of work and drive a man (woman, or a thing) mad.

Your contributions are hugely appreciated. The thing is that SC doesn't have a huge reach as far as audiences are concerned. To find more ears for your music you'd need to post on several platforms and most likely get connected / actively push your music to new ears.



Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Mike_S on October 26, 2023, 02:55:19 PM
Damn, what to say. Every now and again most of us question why we are doing this. It's funny behind every song post and member avatar lies a real person with real emotions. A few before you have posted similar thoughts on possibly calling it a day but I think most of the time they have second thoughts thankfully.

From where I am in my head with contributing to the site, the way I look at it... yes of course I like when people listen/comment on my songs. But really I am a bit like Trev. I am doing it for myself more than anything. It brings myself joy to try and create a song first and foremost. If others like I am really happy too, but even if only one or two listened I would be ok with that. I am a bit sad in that I like to go back and listen to my own songs just for enjoyment.... so the more I make the more I have.

But anyhow... what a tune... this is amongst your finest. Beautiful creation and added to a growing collection on my Mac of JohnBee tunes for future listening.

Mike
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: StephenM on October 26, 2023, 05:55:40 PM
Quote from: Mike_S on October 26, 2023, 02:55:19 PMDamn, what to say. Every now and again most of us question why we are doing this. It's funny behind every song post and member avatar lies a real person with real emotions. A few before you have posted similar thoughts on possibly calling it a day but I think most of the time they have second thoughts thankfully.

From where I am in my head with contributing to the site, the way I look at it... yes of course I like when people listen/comment on my songs. But really I am a bit like Trev. I am doing it for myself more than anything. It brings myself joy to try and create a song first and foremost. If others like I am really happy too, but even if only one or two listened I would be ok with that. I am a bit sad in that I like to go back and listen to my own songs just for enjoyment.... so the more I make the more I have.

But anyhow... what a tune... this is amongst your finest. Beautiful creation and added to a growing collection on my Mac of JohnBee tunes for future listening.

Mike


yes Mike, you should like your own music... and also by listening back we hear ways we can improve and see our progress too...  I agree with you too that what makes SC special is that it is a small site and people do actually interact... that makes it worthwhile to me...
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: SE on October 27, 2023, 07:01:30 PM
As always great stuff, you have that jazzy feeling to your recording,s
But if it's not doing it for you then I would move on.
Maybe try somewhere where jazzy is your thing.
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: BerryPatch on October 28, 2023, 01:45:55 PM
I think of songwriting almost like painting, it's a way of creating something you can be proud of. Sometimes I just have this urge to pour out a song idea I've had knocking around and it always feels satisfying when I'm able to get that song to a finished state. But I definitely see where you are coming from, sometimes it can be discouraging when your music isn't as heard as it should be (don't give up though! There's plenty people on here who are always open to listen including myself!).

Another great song here, I love the dissonant chord changes in the middle sections and the lyrics are extremely thoughtful, I love the effort you put in to them! The arrangement is stellar and professional too. Another great one!
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: DarrenG / The Devil's Toupee on October 29, 2023, 04:39:55 AM
Don't give up John. I love your songs and your style of songwriting too. You're a great musician.  We're all basically the same, only a handful of people will ever hear our music. And it's annoying sometimes because most deserve more. It makes me mad when I hear some of the crap that gets played on the radio etc. and I hear some real talented people in sites like this.
As long as you keep enjoying it, keep doing it if you can.
Take care.
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Johnbee on October 29, 2023, 06:40:36 AM
Mike S, SE, Berrypatch & Darren-Thanks so much. Thanks again, Steven & Zoltan. The responses and support I'm seeing here are very encouraging.

 :) John B
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: karl1171 on October 30, 2023, 05:31:37 AM
I'm relatively new on here, and to be honest I haven't listened to much of your back catalogue. What I have heard I've enjoyed, always impecabbly recorded and produced, with interesting chord changes and structure.

I had a long hiatus, I still played but recorded and wrote very little until the last couple of years. Having a young family was a good excuse though. Really its just been something I like to do for my own enjoyment, and I like to listen to what I've created.

I think maybe you just need a break from this - you've said you enjoy experimenting with chords and melodies, so sooner or later you'll do somthing again that makes you want to record and develop whatever you come up with

.
Title: Re: Sparks, Stars & Pandemonium-Original
Post by: Johnbee on November 01, 2023, 07:03:33 PM
Quote from: karl1171 on October 30, 2023, 05:31:37 AMI'm relatively new on here, and to be honest I haven't listened to much of your back catalogue. What I have heard I've enjoyed, always impecabbly recorded and produced, with interesting chord changes and structure.

I had a long hiatus, I still played but recorded and wrote very little until the last couple of years. Having a young family was a good excuse though. Really its just been something I like to do for my own enjoyment, and I like to listen to what I've created.

I think maybe you just need a break from this - you've said you enjoy experimenting with chords and melodies, so sooner or later you'll do somthing again that makes you want to record and develop whatever you come up with

.
Thanks Karl for listening and your observation.

 :) John B