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Title: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: Ted on November 06, 2021, 09:21:15 AM
I just found out about https://punchline.ai

It's a tool that uses AI (I don't know how) to spit out ideas related to the song idea, or lyrics idea you have.

I put in a partial lyric from "Dechromium Cob," clicked "Generate" a few times, and these are some of the results:

You'll soon know what it's like. To be the center of attention and see your ills.

You're a fake, blowing smoke in the air.
You're a thief, stealing money from my purse.
She's a liar, telling me she cares.
They say time heals all ills, but I'm waiting with bated breath.

If you don't know nothing, just do what I say.

A blunder, that's what it is.

I like to take a dump

I live in a rectum and that is why I am so blusterous.

A butt plug's protruding strength
Can be difficult to swim away from
Expect the pain to last all day long.


(https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=31770.0;attach=192490)
I may use it to rattle my process when I'm stuck.
Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: StephenM on February 26, 2022, 05:40:53 AM
If you aren't going to write this into a song I would certainly like the opportunity!  cracks me up... any song with rectum would automatically score hit points with me ... (it's an old term that my grandmother used to use...she cracked me up)
Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: Ted on December 18, 2022, 12:17:41 AM
I've goofed around with OpenAI (https://openai.com/) to see if it can generate lyrics – and it seems to be really good a generating cliché lyrics.

This was my request:

Create lyrics in the style of Elvis Costello using the words "suppose" "Sharpie" and "ammonia" and avoid themes of love and heartache.

This was the result:

Verse 1: I'm feeling stuck, in this dead end town I'm tired of the same old scene, spinning round and round I've got a plan, to shake things up I'm gonna take this Sharpie, and write my way out

Chorus: I'm breaking free, from the chains that held me down I'm chasing my dreams, out of this small town I'm gonna make my mark, on the world outside I'm ready for anything, that comes my way

Verse 2: I'm tired of pretending, I'm happy with the status quo I've got a fire burning, deep inside my soul I'm ready to take a chance, and follow my heart I'm gonna use this ammonia, to clear the air and start

Chorus: I'm breaking free, from the chains that held me down I'm chasing my dreams, out of this small town I'm gonna make my mark, on the world outside I'm ready for anything, that comes my way

Bridge: I suppose it's time, to take control I'm not gonna sit around, and watch the world unfold I've got my sights set, on the horizon I'm ready to make my mark, on the world outside

Chorus: I'm breaking free, from the chains that held me down I'm chasing my dreams, out of this small town I'm gonna make my mark, on the world outside I'm ready for anything, that comes my way


Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: StephenM on December 18, 2022, 04:25:04 AM
which ever site Ted, I am planning to use some AI lyrics at some point... like we had cut up fest I suppose AI fest would be good.  some day people won't be needed.  AI will sit around and write songs automatically, music and all.  Can you imagine?  Then they can have competitions and critique each other etc.  All the people will be gone but there will be a few left, hidden away in various places around the globe, managing to escape the all watching eyes of the AI. 
They will be still posting on Song Crafters.  lol
Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: WarpCanada on July 17, 2023, 01:18:53 PM
We should do a contest using something like this.

https://www.freshbots.org/ just generated this corny country trash song:

Title: "Broken Heart Road"

Verse 1:
Sittin' here at the edge of town
Watchin' the sun go down
Reflecting on our love that's gone
Leavin' me here all alone

Chorus:
I'm on a broken heart road
Tryin' to find my way back home
Lost in the pain that I can't erase
Stuck in this endless chase
I'm on a broken heart road

Verse 2:
The memories of you still linger
Your voice in my ear, your touch on my finger
I didn't see it coming, didn't know what to do
Now I'm just a ghost of me without you

Chorus:
I'm on a broken heart road
Tryin' to find my way back home
Lost in the pain that I can't erase
Stuck in this endless chase
I'm on a broken heart road

Bridge:
I thought our love was forever
But you found someone else who was clever
Left me here to pick up the pieces
On this road with no happiness releases

Chorus:
I'm on a broken heart road
Tryin' to find my way back home
Lost in the pain that I can't erase
Stuck in this endless chase
I'm on a broken heart road

Outro:
The tears keep flowing down my face
As I keep movin' on this broken heart road.
Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: WarpCanada on July 17, 2023, 01:21:27 PM
Here's lyrics from open ai.



"Write me lyrics for a country song about losing confidence in organized religion"

->

(Verse 1)
I used to walk these pews with pride,
A believer with my heart open wide,
But as time went on, I started to see,
The cracks in the faith that once held me.

(Pre-Chorus)
Questions rose like the morning sun,
Doubts crept in, and I came undone,
I'm searchin' for truth in a world so vast,
In this journey, I pray it'll last.

(Chorus)
Lost faith in the halls of the steeple,
I'm wanderin', my soul feels feeble,
The dogma's weight, I couldn't bear,
But I still believe in a higher care.

(Verse 2)
They said they had the answers clear,
But it's not that simple, I fear,
The preacher's words, they used to inspire,
Now they feel like flames, burnin' like fire.

(Pre-Chorus)
Questions rose like the morning sun,
Doubts crept in, and I came undone,
I'm searchin' for truth in a world so vast,
In this journey, I pray it'll last.

(Chorus)
Lost faith in the halls of the steeple,
I'm wanderin', my soul feels feeble,
The dogma's weight, I couldn't bear,
But I still believe in a higher care.

(Bridge)
Through the darkest nights, I found my way,
Questioning, but still, I kneel to pray,
Seeking solace in a world unsure,
Hoping my doubts will find a cure.

(Verse 3)
The road is rough, the path is unclear,
But in my heart, there's a longing to be near,
To something greater than I can comprehend,
In my doubts, I hope my soul will mend.

(Pre-Chorus)
Questions rose like the morning sun,
Doubts crept in, and I came undone,
I'm searchin' for truth in a world so vast,
In this journey, I pray it'll last.

(Chorus)
Lost faith in the halls of the steeple,
I'm wanderin', my soul feels feeble,
The dogma's weight, I couldn't bear,
But I still believe in a higher care.

(Outro)
Though I've lost confidence in the way it's told,
My belief in love and hope won't fold,
I'll keep seeking, I'll keep the faith,
In this country song, my truth I'll embrace.



Pretty on the nose.  Does saying "this country song" make it a country song?  Well.
I think if we lean in on these crusty lyrics, and write some equally crusty music ourselves it would be a fun FESTIVAL idea here on SC.
Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: Ted on July 20, 2023, 08:57:58 AM
My observation is that when you ask an AI to do something in a particular style, it dishes up the most obvious cliches. But you might find some inspiration to work with hidden in the AI cliche vomit.
Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: Trist on July 21, 2023, 08:29:44 AM
The thought of AI being used in music makes my skin crawl, i still remember when lyrics mattered and were always mentioned , very rare now, but now who will as everyone will think everything is fake good for a laugh maybe a i for kicks, but its one step closer to the matrix. and our eventual demise by the terminators. :)
Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: kenny mac on July 21, 2023, 10:05:10 AM
AI has no place in my world, it scares the shit out of me and changes the world into a darker place.
Like self scanning machines in shops it fills me with dread.
Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: WarpCanada on July 21, 2023, 10:09:20 AM
THe sample song above is absolutely terrible.   :-)
Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: Mike_S on July 21, 2023, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: Trist on July 21, 2023, 08:29:44 AMThe thought of AI being used in music makes my skin crawl, i still remember when lyrics mattered and were always mentioned , very rare now, but now who will as everyone will think everything is fake good for a laugh maybe a i for kicks, but its one step closer to the matrix. and our eventual demise by the terminators. :)

Yes indeed, where to start. Ai...  pretty sure I won't be participating in anything Ai related and that will include fests here on SC if they ever get voted in. I think Ai is crossing a line now that shouldn't be crossed. The lines are too blurred... it's a slippery slope that I personally believe a strong stand should be made against in artistic communities



Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: Ted on July 22, 2023, 02:36:43 AM
I, for one, take advantage of AI all nearly every day. But letting AI have the final say is (as of today) usually garbage. I have used the internet creatively when songwriting for a long time. Even before AI tools were so easily accessible, I would use web searches rattle my brain a little.

For example: If I was writing a song about a dog eating a pineapple, and was stuck for a third verse, I would search for "dog pineapple eat" and then throw in some third unrelated search term such as "letter opener." Just scanning the search results, and seeing the unexpected contexts in which all of these words appear together, would sometimes inspire an idea that had been just out of reach.
Title: Re: Use AI to help with Lyrics
Post by: SteveB on July 22, 2023, 04:22:07 PM
I have to admit that I know very little of this AI stuff, and also admit that I'm not particularly interested in it either. But it will probably become the norm as these things do. I'm reminded of the 'Buggles' song which claimed: 'They wrote your ? with new technology', and of course the fact is (and I'm not too sure how far advanced 'Vox' software is), but quite literally now, you can be a complete non-musician, yet with a computer and software create a credible 'Dance track' etc. I'm hoping to see out my days with human thought and interaction still taking place.  8)