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Title: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Bishmanrock on June 26, 2021, 02:43:58 AM
Hi, I'm Bishmanrock from the UK. I saw this site mentioned on Reddit, gave it an idle click and it actually looks like a really nice community, so here I am with an intro post and everything!

I've been in a mix of thrash metal and hardcore punk bands in the past, but my main solo work tends to move between different genres. A lot of my current stuff is along the lines of dark prog rock, I guess? In the absence of having a live band or even a static genre to pin myself to, I've been really struggling to figure out how to properly promote myself or even get listeners for my work.

My last album was released in March (Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/track/46EDgfjXbGqPh8j5t6KIIc?si=9f49e69b121445b6), Bandcamp (https://bishmanrock.bandcamp.com/track/stormchild), YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztsz5mcp_7s)). I'm currently working on the next one which is more of a stripped down acoustic ramble (influenced by Roger Waters' The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking), most of the music is down just sorting vocals. Probably release early next year.

I work with MIDI sequencers and Cubase primarily. I peg myself mostly as producer, because even through I do most of the writing/lyrics/singing, I rarely play any of the instrumentation. I'm always open to collaborations or having my tracks remixed. Liking the sounds of the themed competitions here, so hoping to give that a go!

Hello everyone and nice to meet you!
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: alfstone on June 26, 2021, 04:52:43 AM
A WARM welcome from the (very) HOT Sicily, and many congrats, your Stormchild sounds really great!

Alfredo
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Hilary on June 26, 2021, 04:53:36 AM
Hello and nice to meet you too!

This sounds very accomplished, I'm looking forward to hearing more.

Welcome, also from the UK, I hope you love it here  :)
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Ferryman on June 26, 2021, 09:02:41 AM
Aha a kindred spirit! I am a lover of doomy proggy metal and Stormchild was right up my street. Gave me a few hints of Tightly Unwound era Pineapple Thief, I loved the feel of the track and it's really well written and produced. Sounds pretty convincing if those are midi instruments. Great vocals as well.

I can't help with getting listeners I am afraid, I gave up on my music career many years ago so have no idea how to do it these days. I guess maybe YouTube channels and stuff like that may be a start. I enjoy the YouTube channel "Where Post Rock Dwells" and I'm sure you could submit your stuff there, they seem to take submissions from bands and solo artists (and not just those with deals).

Here's some shameless self promotion. Have a listen to my track "Outlier" here: https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=30695.msg364121#msg364121 (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=30695.msg364121#msg364121) It might be up your alley....... :D

Welcome, and I look forward to hearing more of your stuff.
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Bishmanrock on June 26, 2021, 09:37:26 AM
Hello everyone and thanks for the warm welcome!

Quote from: Ferryman on June 26, 2021, 09:02:41 AMAha a kindred spirit! I am a lover of doomy proggy metal and Stormchild was right up my street. Gave me a few hints of Tightly Unwound era Pineapple Thief, I loved the feel of the track and it's really well written and produced. Sounds pretty convincing if those are midi instruments. Great vocals as well.

I'm ashamed to say I hadn't encountered The Pineapple Thief, but can assure you I'm fixing that as I speak.

If my memory serves right, everything on that track is MIDI/VST save for the guitar.

Quote from: Ferryman on June 26, 2021, 09:02:41 AMI can't help with getting listeners I am afraid, I gave up on my music career many years ago so have no idea how to do it these days. I guess maybe YouTube channels and stuff like that may be a start. I enjoy the YouTube channel "Where Post Rock Dwells" and I'm sure you could submit your stuff there, they seem to take submissions from bands and solo artists (and not just those with deals).

I'm under no illusion of having a music "career", left those dreams at the door long ago, but like anyone else always looking for anyone who might appreciate my stuff, it's only natural artists want to be appreciated. I hadn't heard of that channel, will give it a go, thanks!

Quote from: Ferryman on June 26, 2021, 09:02:41 AMHere's some shameless self promotion. Have a listen to my track "Outlier" here: https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=30695.msg364121#msg364121 (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=30695.msg364121#msg364121) It might be up your alley....... :D

Pwhoar, that's a cracking track, really digging that style and the tones used! If you do more like that keep me in the loop, I'd be eager to hear.
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: kenny mac on June 26, 2021, 11:20:54 AM
Welcome to the site.
Looking forward to hearing your stuff.
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Ferryman on June 26, 2021, 12:18:27 PM
Quote from: Bishmanrock on June 26, 2021, 09:37:26 AMPwhoar, that's a cracking track, really digging that style and the tones used! If you do more like that keep me in the loop, I'd be eager to hear.
Thanks, there will be more but I am a notoriously slow worker (just ask anyone on here..... :D). I have given up doing vocals so maybe there will be a chance to get you to add some vocals to some of my stuff......
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Bishmanrock on June 26, 2021, 02:28:06 PM
It sounds like we're pretty similar in headspace - I'm also a dreadfully slow worker (and sometimes pause for a while to prevent burnout too). My album turnaround times average about a year and a half, from writing through to recording and mixing, to completion. I could speed that up if I wanted, but I don't want to turn the passion into a chore.

I'm absolutely happy to lend any vocals. I have a demo setup at home to throw down rough vocal takes (sadly live in a terrace, so belting out notes isn't possible without neighbours thinking there's a domestic going on...), and I have access to a studio to lay down final vocals when needed.
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Ferryman on June 27, 2021, 03:32:24 AM
Quote from: Bishmanrock on June 26, 2021, 02:28:06 PMIt sounds like we're pretty similar in headspace - I'm also a dreadfully slow worker (and sometimes pause for a while to prevent burnout too). My album turnaround times average about a year and a half, from writing through to recording and mixing, to completion. I could speed that up if I wanted, but I don't want to turn the passion into a chore.
That's actually quite quick compared to me!

Quote from: Bishmanrock on June 26, 2021, 02:28:06 PMI'm absolutely happy to lend any vocals. I have a demo setup at home to throw down rough vocal takes (sadly live in a terrace, so belting out notes isn't possible without neighbours thinking there's a domestic going on...), and I have access to a studio to lay down final vocals when needed.
That's one of the reasons I gave up doing vocals - I feel embarrassed winding the voice up to full bore at home. I don't ahve anywhere proper to record them so focus on instrumentals or working with others.

I'll be giving the album a listen later today.
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Ted on June 27, 2021, 04:10:15 AM
Welcome! Ferryman and I have a big overlap in our tastes, but I come with a dash of Africa – just a dash. I'm not African (except in the sense that all humans are African). I'm just a pushing-60 American with rock, prog, and punk influences that won't send you Googling because you never heard of them (mostly). But I've been dabbling unseriously in African styles for many years, and try to fake it from time to time.

I'm one of the old-timers on this site, but I don't post too often anymore. Lately I've been playing and learning Kabosy (an instrument from Madagascar, where I live) – even taking lessons. I'm feeling inspired and may start posting more often.

Bass is my main instrument, but I call myself a songwriter first and foremost as an excuse for not being better at bass. I mostly record on a Micro BR (like many die-hards here). But I cheat and use Garageband sometimes.

Loved the song!
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Bishmanrock on June 27, 2021, 03:03:29 PM
Quote from: Ferryman on June 27, 2021, 03:32:24 AMI feel embarrassed winding the voice up to full bore at home.

The struggle is real! My partner is always telling me to feel free to do some recording, but I don't think people appreciate just how much your self awareness can impact your ability to perform, it's almost like you're subconsciously self restricting your volume. It's all a bit "I can't go when you're looking!". Funny how I can perform on stage in front of people, but singing at home? Nah, can't do it.

Quote from: Ted on June 27, 2021, 04:10:15 AMWelcome!

Hey Ted nice to meet you! Also nice to meet another who appreciates punk and prog, some people tend to pick sides with that, but I'm all for both. Your influences sound great, I'll keep an eye out for some of your music, would be interested to see how you tie it all together. Also a bit of a bassist myself, but like you I'm mostly a songwriter and normally just use it for laying down notes and melodies (which normally wind up going to synths anyway, so no bass playing actually winds up happening!).
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Mike_S on June 27, 2021, 03:35:41 PM
Hi there welcome on board Bishmanrock. You will find a real mix of stuff on here and bags of creativity. That track sounds great. I do like my prog amongst other things. I tend to drift from one genre to another. Anything from a bit of prog, to blues, straight ahead rock... well a bit of anything really.

Mike
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: BerryPatch on June 27, 2021, 03:38:49 PM
Welcome aboard Bish! :) That's one smoking track, great sense of atmosphere, stellar vocals and a fantastic guitar solo. This place truly is a great community and I think you'll really enjoy it.
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: TPB on June 27, 2021, 08:05:19 PM
Welcome aboard brother track sounds good always up for collab with others hope to hear more from you
Tim Southern Mississippi USA
Title: Re: New Arrival - Bishmanrock
Post by: Groundy on August 25, 2021, 01:47:06 PM
Hwelcome aboard Bish.... Alex