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Title: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: Johnny Robbo on June 11, 2017, 05:05:49 AM
Just came across this & decided to try it on my tele...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5lTtDzR8eE

Here's the before/after comparison & I think it has made a difference. I just played a chord without any amp model or FX to get a true idea...

Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: Mike_S on June 11, 2017, 05:26:08 AM
Interesting.
Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: The Gobi Desert Canoe Club on June 11, 2017, 07:04:17 AM
Gonna try this on my Squier Tele, it's not bad but I'm sure it could be better. Willie
Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: Pete C on June 11, 2017, 08:04:10 AM
Saw this video myself recently and was going to try it on my old Squier strat when I next change the strings.

Listening to your before and after test, it does seem to sustain slightly longer after adjustment.

Pete
Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: 64Guitars on June 11, 2017, 01:35:01 PM
It seems to me that pulling the neck closer to the body is going to affect the intonation of the guitar, if only slightly, and a bridge adjustment will be necessary to compensate for the change in distance between the frets and the bridge. Each bridge saddle should be moved back toward the tail end of the guitar by whatever distance the neck moved to maintain the same fret-to-bridge distance.

Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: Groundy on June 13, 2017, 11:03:56 PM
Good find John..

Alex
Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: IanR on June 16, 2017, 07:04:46 AM
Psychosomatic guitar therapy?
Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: Geir on June 16, 2017, 07:53:25 AM
Interesting indeed.

And I took the trouble of putting your clip i audacity and putting the before-bit in the left channel and the after-bit in the right. I does look like it made a difference !

(https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26970.0;attach=187144)
Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: Farrell Jackson on June 16, 2017, 10:10:18 AM
That makes a lot of sense to my brain and my ears. I'll have to give it a try. Thanks for posting Johnny!
Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: AndyR on June 16, 2017, 01:46:37 PM
It is a cool trick, I've been doing this to bolt-ons for some years. I've found it depends on the guitar, sometimes the change is AMAZING, and other times there's hardly any difference.

I've just realised, I've got a couple of teles whose necks have been off for other reasons - the necks kept shifting, and it was because the screws were biting in the body holes (not meant to) - and I haven't performed this trick on them since I put the necks back on and strung them up.

It's DEFINITELY worth giving it a go on a bolt on - either nothing happens or the thing suddenly has a bit more spring and sustain.
Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: Johnny Robbo on June 17, 2017, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: 64Guitars on June 11, 2017, 01:35:01 PMIt seems to me that pulling the neck closer to the body is going to affect the intonation of the guitar, if only slightly, and a bridge adjustment will be necessary to compensate for the change in distance between the frets and the bridge. Each bridge saddle should be moved back toward the tail end of the guitar by whatever distance the neck moved to maintain the same fret-to-bridge distance.



Well spotted, 64... yes I DID need to tweak the intonation a little after doing this! Thanks chaps! Glad you found it as useful as I did :)
Title: Re: A great little modification that seems to work
Post by: Mike_S on June 18, 2017, 03:12:50 AM
I can't help thinking, when you do this, when tightening up the 4 screws on the back again, would it be wise to not turn them as tight as they were before, as tightening them back to they way they were before the neck will attempt to go back to the same position as before. Although I understand the process and understand the neck may have shifted permanently by a fraction, maybe just doing those screws not quite as tight as before would aid the process??