I got a bit curious when this site launched, so I looked up Pedro's profile to see when he first posted. I then got to some surfing, and I happened on the thread where he announced that he was closing the site (remember that drama years back?). It was a reminder about how important this site is to many of us. I saw a lot of the same names in that thread who are still posting today.
I'm not as prolific as some and go through long periods of lurking here and there, but there really is a consistent feeling of home every time I log on here. This site just never bums me out. There is so much venom, spite, trolling, and bullshit on the web. Everybody has a platform now, and many choose to vomit their own brand on inanity all over it. I guess what I'm saying is I am so thankful to belong to a community with super sharp, funny, talented, caring, and positive individuals from all over the globe. The fact that we all share a love of music is a big fat layer of icing on the cake.
Just thought I'd take a moment to say thanks to Pedro, the current administrators (64, orh, cuthbert, Flash), and all the rest of you good folks.
Peace.
Bruce
i second that blooby. of late i have struggled to get here, usually on my mobile which is crap for listening and commenting. hopefully in the new year my workload won't be so heavy and i can be more involved again. i love you all.
and i love this site.
oldrottenhead.
Quote from: Blooby on December 06, 2014, 09:31:24 AMI got a bit curious when this site launched, so I looked up Pedro's profile to see when he first posted. I then got to some surfing, and I happened on the thread where he announced that he was closing the site (remember that drama years back?). It was a reminder about how important this site is to many of us. I saw a lot of the same names in that thread who are still posting today.
A couple of years ago, I posted a topic with an overview of the history of Songcrafters. It includes a list of significant events with links to the relevant topics such as Pedro's first post, site closing announcement, etc.
https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=17258.0 (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=17258.0)
Well said, I tried to leave and found it nigh on impossible. Without doubt this site is all every musician needs. All I lack is the time to make use of all the wonderful help and collaborations from the truly amazing musicians that I'm proud to call friends. Willie
Well worded Mr.B
Willie I second your post.
big thumbs up to Admin for keeping THE super site running.
Tommy
I'll second (or fifth) the thanks to the admins and all of us here in this community. A sincere thanks to everyone here.
Well said, Blooby! I'm so thankful to all, especially to the members I have done collabs! Many of my songs would be still just song sketches without you!
Edit: I almost forgot the admin team ::) . You have done fantastic job on the backround! Thank you 64, orh, cuth and Flash!
In my opinion, everyone of us has understood the rules and spirit of the Songcrafters well. Here's a quote of Pedro's first message:
Quote from: Pedro on December 16, 2007, 11:50:30 AMThe rules are the usual:
No SPAM
No Offences
Be Humble
Be Kind
Thank you,
admin
:)
Did I mentioned already that I love this site :D :D :D
I must agree with everyone, well said Blooby.
and a special thank you to, 64, ORH, Cuthbert and Flash.
Alex
I would wholeheartedly agree with what has been said about this site and those who make it happen. This is not a 5 minute task, but I suspect a considerable amount of commitment and time (and money). And to that I say thanks guys. This is a remarkable site, and often feel that we should all contribute a little more. For me, this has given me many things. From an early age, I had an affinity with making music - I always wanted to do it, I suspect most, if not all, on this site feel the same way. Therefore we are bonded. For me, meeting with Hook half way around the world was a culmination of that - it really didn't feel like we had never actually met or spoken, it was very easy and a fantastic experience. I count Hook as a great friend, and look forward to meeting up again next year. This was enabled by this site. And that is the point with this site, it brings like minded people together. Sometimes we squabble, some times we piss each other off - most of the time we all make great music.
I am a pragmatist. This site will probably not go on forever, people move on, retire, grow tired etc, and running this is a big ask for anybody. Who knows when, 1 year, 5 years, 10 years ... who knows? So, I will say - treat this site well, be active, be involved, collaborate, make friends for life, give more than you take and most of all, enjoy what you are drawn to do.
Peace.
B
I'm in the ORH neck of the woods. Just don't have the opportunity to listen & comment as much as I would like to.
I try to lurk, using mainly mobile devices, but it isn't easy. It's a major effort every time I record or participate in a song that I can post on here.
The upside of that, is that this site is always here and there's always someone who'll listen/help.
Some are dedicated hardcore subscribers, some occasional, but the fact that there's anyone at all, who'll give up their time to listen & comment is quite humbling.
Long may it last :)
Yea, I love this site & I love that those rules redler quoted still are obviously evident. It's the positivity & humbleness of the immense talent here that keeps me involved. I've found so much inspiration & information from listening to what others are doing in there home studios. I've found commonality with fellow musicians all over the world & had the opportunity to collaborate musically that I never could of imagined 10 years ago. I've met Bruno & his wonderful family & can't wait to see them again. Playing live with bruno was a highlight to me musically & I can't wait to do it again.
I've said it before but songcrafters is where I get to do music just for myself. I play for a living but it's as a character & I'm not exactly doing stuff I love. I basically do the same 20min. set 70 times over 4 days every week...not exactly fun but I'm still playing & singing for living so I'm not complaing. My point is most people would do something else, read/video games/etc. in their free time but not me, I write songs. I have for most of my life and fell out of it after my kids were born & I was gigging clubs very regularly. When I had the idea & opportunity to make music actually lucrative I found and needed the assistance and knowledge of the Boss Recorder Yahoo group & that led me here. Once I stopped gigging clubs I started writing again & that lead me back to songcrafters.
Just to have a place like this to share my tunes & to be inspired is a great joy in my life (does that sound really sad?) The festivals are a great place to find inspiration to write, play & record & I don't even listen to much "popular music" anymore, there's plenty great stuff right here!
Rock On my friends!
Although I don't post much and don't post music of mine here or indeed on the web full stop, I do love the site and the people who contribute to it. My interest lies with recording, so I tend to ask or read about that aspect, but , I don't comment on songs on here or anywhere else. To me, songs that I compose or cover are for my enjoyment and learning, I like to think of them as a picture and when that picture is complete I can admire, criticise and examine them myself. Maybe that's selfish I don't know.
Without this site and the people that use it, I and many others would have struggled to grasp some of the workings of recording using, in particular the BR series of recorders. I do intend to keep on posting and asking about stuff but most of it concerns the technical side which means the BR series in the main. I have no plans to use computers as present for music and can see a slippery slope downhill concerning such use. That's just how I see it.
However time moves on,but , not me. Anyway enough of that. Yes I love the site, it's great, there is absolutely no bitchin, snide remarks, nastiness or any other horribleness on this site and that is quite a unique place to be. Thanks.
Well said Blooby.
A big thank you from me as well, to Pedro, to 64g, flash, orh and Cuthbert. And also to all the lovely people that I've met here, virtually and in real life.
You've all made my life better.
Quote from: Hook on December 07, 2014, 06:35:16 AMJust to have a place like this to share my tunes & to be inspired is a great joy in my life (does that sound really sad?)
Doesn't sound sad to me at all. I have no social life at all outside of my internet musician friends. I live very rurally and often go a week or more without ever even leaving the woods now that i'm "retired". What few old friends i have locally are still working FT and are no longer involved in music. My wife has no interest in my stuff or music in general and i only get to jam with my brother a couple times a year at best. I am home alone all day everyday with the 50 animals, which i talk to.... and fortunately they haven't starting talking back to me yet. I love my lifestyle but if it weren't for places like this, there would be a huge vacuum in my life. You're a good lot...kind and supportive and inspirational. Admin does a great job and deserves a round of applause (insert clapping emoticon here) At 64, i'm just thankful that i can still play, write, record, and share my stuff with friends from around the world and enjoy their music as well. I hope this site lives on for years to come and is still alive and well even after i'm not.
pine
Its funny, I was looking at my profile stats a few days ago as I changed my avatar photo. I have been a member here for more than five years. I post once every couple of days (on average), so that makes me a fairly regular contributor. I baulk when I see some of the post tallies of some of the high traffic contributors.
I agree that this site is great. Keep on writing, recording, playing and singing. The standard is way higher than it was when I started.
Music is my hobby. It gives me a creative outlet and I love gear, so I get to play with interesting stuff.
I'm not in a band and I don't have musical friends, so this place gives me an opportunity to share my work and my knowledge and also to learn from others, which I really enjoy.
So, I guess I am also saying: THANKS!
cheers,
Ian
What can I say? That's not already been said,this site is one of the friendliest sites on the planet,so many great collaborations and mets.
It's like one big family and I hope it goes on and on,so,,,,,,,Thanks ;D
Good sentiment, Blooby. I'd like to add my thanks and appreciation to the effort put in that makes this site the home from home it is for so many of us.
Many years ago I started a group on Flickr - a group mind, not a forum. It died on its arse because I didn't have the time or inclination to put into making it work. So in a very small way I have some insight into the effort and commitment involved.
It's right that there is camaraderie and warmth here which just doesn't seem to exist in other forums. I came across it through the Zoom forum when I first bought my R16. I posted something there a year or so back after a lay off of several years and was surprised by how cold and brusque the (few) responses were, compared to here. I've not been back.
I know my own writing and recording has come on leaps since participating here. To have the chance to have my humble efforts heard and discussed around the world is a magical thing. For me, it's what Maslow called Self Actualisation.
Cheers everyone and I hope you mid-winter festivals are jolly.
IMO the great thing of this site is that, being so friendly, it encourages to go on with our musical experience. And even better, often this goes through collaborations with others from around the world, in a time made of too much solipsism.
So Blooby, I too second your post, and a big THANKS to all those involved to make everything going on here in such an excellent way.
Alfredo
I have to agree with the other comments here, and I want to take the opportunity to add my thanks and gratitude to the admin team.
When I first joined here, what struck me was the warmth and friendliness, and a lot of talent.
So once again thanks to the admin team and to the rest of you who contribute and make this such a great site.
I want to chime in with my thanks to all you good people - thank you for the great music, supportive comments, and the good vibrations that live on here at Songcrafters. Each of you helps make this place what it is. I'll never forget how strikingly friendly and welcoming this place was when I first found my way here. I felt like I'd found a home.
Also, big thanks from me to 64Guitars, Flash Harry, and oldrottenhead for all that they do every day. I couldn't possibly have thrown in with a better bunch of fellows.
This is indeed a great site, and one of very few that I frequent.
In fact, I am struggling to think of any others....
Long may it last.
And great kudos to the people who keep it going!
Paul
Yes, well said Blooby. I too love this site and enjoy the supportive community here. I haven't been around here much and surely been forgotten by many since I started a new job about 2 years ago. Part of the job is sitting at a desk of monitors with interweb access but no speakers, and headphone use is prohibited. I try to listen occaisionally at home and comment but my job is graveyard shift therefore I sleep in the day and spend time with my family in the evenings with my daughter dominating the computer to do homework most nights. It's often difficult to get in a full day's sleep so I'm tired most of the time. I still jam once a week most weeks but haven't recorded anything since April...lots of ideas but when I get the time I usually just play the guitar without recording. This is a special place and I really do miss the contact I had with many of the "irregular" regulars.
Unfortunately I am at work (4 AM PST) and cannot listen so I have bumped the artists whose music I miss most (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?board=91.0) in the Original Songs section.
Yes thanks for Pedro, 64 guitars, Orh, Cuth, and most of all to Flash for keeping this place keeping on.
From reading i see some people are doing well .Unfortunately some not, and a lot disappeared which i can understand for all.
I haven`t been around much and lurking mostly because it`s been a bad year for me with my father passing away in September, and also a couple friends did too. I know we all go through this but this is definitely the worst year
for me with other things happening. I`m not superstitious or religious. I believe things just happen and i`m really just not into Christmas at all this year. Not in a miserable ba-hum-bug way to ruin it for others. I guess just not emotionally.
I also have been working on tunes but in an A.D.D way. I have like 10 tunes happening at once. They`ll be posted eventually. I hope! (Worked on a monkey song tonight :) )
I do want to let you all know, although if i`m not commenting, i am listening sometimes. With work and all the normal stuff that makes us busy it`s hard to even log in. I also feel guilty when i do comment and i miss peoples songs or posts and the ones who comment on mine. I hope that will change one day. Hopefully some of the old crew will get back on here too one day. May this site live on forever!
I was feeling a bit maudlin tonight, and then I actively searched for this thread (after the Glenfiddich, mind you), and it still holds true.
Happy holidays, folks.
Blooby
Yep,
Rock on my friends!
Hear, hear.......spread the good cheer.....I love this site......long live songcrafters........I am caught in a bad spell of Lurk at the moment, but things are looking up, I just switched jobs at work, I am going to have a lot less stress and hours, hopefully that will translate into more time to get back to music......I am getting on of them IRig acoustic thingys.....thanks Hook, my wife saw me checking them out on the web after reading your post and she got me one for a present.....hopefully that will translate into more time with the acoustic in a recording mode......yes things are looking up for 2016 for getting back into the music thing and back into more participating on this glorious site of ours.......where like-minded lunatics get to hang out and make music, listen to music, discuss music........live and breath music.......2016, lets get it going.........long live Songcrafters!!!!!
Agree with the above.
Indeed !!!
Bump.
Thank you once again to the administrators who keep this ship afloat. You are greatly appreciated.
Bruce
Godd bump Bruce...
Alex
Can i give 64guitars an extra big thanks for the hard and oft complicated work he puts into building the songplayers for the festivals and most especially the MET pages. it is so greatly appreciated.
This really is a remarkable site, and whilst it does have its occasional little spats, or people disappearing for long periods - it is really is a unique site. It is magically funded (someone pays the bills), with no agenda. Stunning when most of the internet is fast becoming unusable down to the shear amount of adverts and re-directs in the way of just trying to get to the single piece of information that you want. It doesn't sell your information, a clear bonus in these days of social media. It is a site by musicians and songwriters for musicians and songwriters. It connects people like no other, I've met people that I consider my good friends, which I would have never met apart from this site. Mostly, I think, it gives us a reason. The reason to produce music, to improve, to crave new and crazy instruments and wonderful widgets; to want to play with others; to produce music that stands up against commercial music; to interact with the writers and producers of other music; to share our knowledge, thoughts and musing; to continue to pursue whats always been in us; and to meet up with those folks from around the world, and speak like we have known those people forever (and we do) - similar interests, similar tastes, similar obsessions :-). Like all civilations, all sites die, sooner or later. But I for one aim to push that can down the road far, far into the future. The folk who run this site make all this possible, so I thank them because it is important. My part of the bargain is to listen, to contribute, to comment and be engaged as much as I can. Simplez
B
Damn straight bruno!
Rock on!
Well said Bruno !
hear hear !!
Once again, thank you.
Nice bump... I think sometimes the real heros get buried way too far in the background. I agree with all that has been said. Admin team has done a wonderful job keeping this place going for quite some time. It is a good place to call home!