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Title: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 14, 2014, 06:02:26 PM
PaddyFest (banner image missing)


Sorry for the short notice but this is the first of, hopefully, many mini-fests which we'll have to mark certain occasions such as holidays (Saint Patrick's Day, Valentine's Day, Halloween, etc.) or when a famous musician passes away. So that they won't interfere with our regular festivals too much, we'll keep them short (a few days to a week or two tops) and not have them too frequently (maybe a half-dozen per year or something like that).

So think of a good Irish song and record something this weekend if you can. Late entries will be accepted next week but the important thing (as with all of our festivals) is to start it during the festival. If you don't finish till after the festival ends (Tuesday, March 18, 2014 in this case), you can post it late. But what we don't want is for people to start a new song for a festival after that festival has ended. So start something now if you can.

I won't create the same kind of jukebox that I create for our regular festivals. Instead, I'll embed a small jukebox right into this top message.
Update: I've created proper jukeboxes for all of the mini-fests. Click on the banner at the top of this message to get to it, or look in the main menu at the top of every page under Festivals/mini-fests/Annual.

Post your songs in the usual way in the Original Songs or Cover Songs boards and set the message icon to Festival Submission (see https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=13 (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=13)). We'll then add your song to the PaddyFest jukebox.

I hope everyone has fun recording a song for this, our first, mini-fest.


Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: T.C. Elliott on March 14, 2014, 08:22:59 PM
Can you blatantly steal a tune and write your own lyric?
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 14, 2014, 09:23:18 PM
Sure. As long as the lyrics are suitably Irish.

Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Hilary on March 15, 2014, 06:21:16 PM
What about songs covered by Irish artists? I'd like to do a Dolores Keane one.
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 15, 2014, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: Hilary on March 15, 2014, 06:21:16 PMWhat about songs covered by Irish artists? I'd like to do a Dolores Keane one.

When you say "covered", are you referring to a non-Irish song? I think the object of this mini-fest is to celebrate Saint Patrick's Day and all things Irish. So if you want to cover an Irish artist covering "The Rose of Tralee", for example, then that's fine. But if you want to cover an Irish artist singing "Bridge Over Troubled Water", then I don't think that's really in the spirit of this mini-fest. But I won't forbid it.

By the way, the songs for this mini-fest don't necessarily have to be written or performed by Irish songwriters and artists. They just have to have an Irish theme. For example, "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling" was written by three Americans, yet it's often sung on Saint Patrick's Day and is definitely suitable for our mini-fest. There are probably lots of American songs that have an Irish theme, as well as songs from other countries.

Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: fenderbender on March 16, 2014, 05:08:19 AM
Well worded 64
I hope your post will open the floodgates
I personally would love to hear versions of Irish songs by members who have no Irish blood in them at all
after all I have spent most of my life singing (badly ;D ;D ;D) American and British songs
so lets go ___ ;D ;D ;D ;D
You are all honourly Irish for this weekend ;D ;D ;D

Sláinte

Tómas ;D ;D
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: fenderbender on March 17, 2014, 12:23:52 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU

Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Hilary on March 17, 2014, 01:22:36 PM
Danny Boy - loved it Tommy :D (Miss Piggy does a great version of Waiting at the Church btw, that's more Cockney Fest/Cultural Fest than Irish Fest though!)

I hope you've had a lovely day ;)
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 13, 2015, 11:42:26 AM
Saint Patrick's Day is fast approaching and it's time once again for our Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest. I've modified the banner graphic to show that it's now an annual event. So, even if I forget to announce it on time, you can submit appropriate songs for PaddyFest each year from March 10th to March 17th.

PaddyFest (banner image missing)


Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: fenderbender on March 13, 2015, 01:45:21 PM
Ahh begobs I'd better crackin' ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Tommy
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Groundy on March 15, 2015, 01:02:17 AM
Love the muppets version Tommy........Alex
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 10, 2016, 04:37:08 PM
Almost forgot to mention that the annual PaddyFest starts today. Post your Irish songs in the usual way in the Original Songs or Cover Songs boards and set the message icon to Festival Submission (see https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=13 (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=13)). We'll then add your song to the PaddyFest jukebox.

Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: fenderbender on March 10, 2016, 05:40:55 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ahhh be gobs I nearly forgot meself ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thanks 64 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Groundy on March 10, 2016, 10:59:00 PM
Quote from: fenderbender on March 17, 2014, 12:23:52 PM;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU



Nice one Tommy......Alex
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 11, 2017, 10:42:09 PM
PaddyFest (banner image missing)


It's PaddyFest time again.

Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 12, 2018, 12:34:43 AM
PaddyFest (banner image missing)


It's time for PaddyFest 2018.

Let's raise a glass of green beer to fenderbender and post some Irish songs in remembrance.

Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Hilary on March 12, 2018, 12:08:19 PM
Maybe we could honour Tommy's memory and change the banner name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy)
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Groundy on March 12, 2018, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: 64Guitars on March 12, 2018, 12:34:43 AM
PaddyFest (banner image missing)


It's time for e: PaddyFest 2018.

Let's raise a glass of green beer to fenderbender and post some Irish songs in remembrance.

Nice one 64,
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 12, 2018, 02:05:09 PM
Quote from: Hilary on March 12, 2018, 12:08:19 PMMaybe we could honour Tommy's memory and change the banner name.

No. I asked Tommy about the name four years ago. He said that it's not in the least offensive to Irish people and there was no reason to change it.

I have no doubt that when used in a certain context and with a certain attitude, the word Paddy could be offensive. But without that context and attitude, it's not offensive at all.

Here's the definition from Wikipedia:

1) Proper noun: An Irish nickname for Patrick.

2) Noun: (slang, sometimes offensive) An Irish person.


In PaddyFest, we're using it as a proper noun referring to St. Patrick's Day. So it's merely a nickname for Patrick. But even in the second usage as a noun, it's only offensive "sometimes". The rest of the time, it simply means an Irish person, with no offense intended or assumed.

Tommy said 'We in Ireland call it St.Paddy's Day a lot. The only name we don't call it is "St. Patty's day."'  And he sent me this newspaper clipping:

(http://s13.postimg.org/g0oqxusp3/image0.jpg)


By the way, my paternal ancestors were from County Clare so I obviously don't want to insult the Irish people. That's why I asked Tommy. I don't want the ghosts of my ancestors haunting me. :)  But Tommy assured me that I can rest easy with the knowledge that it's not insulting.


Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: danieldesete on March 13, 2018, 01:28:12 AM
I thought Hilary meant we could add a mention to fenderbender on the paddy fest banner, to make a kind of tribute ?
Danny boy
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: alfstone on March 13, 2018, 05:34:41 AM
Quote from: danieldesete on March 13, 2018, 01:28:12 AMI thought Hilary meant we could add a mention to fenderbender on the paddy fest banner, to make a kind of tribute ?
Danny boy

+1

Alfredo

P.S....BTW, I had never heard about this "Patty" option...does it mean that "Patty" is someway offensive? Just curious...
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Hilary on March 13, 2018, 06:33:46 AM
I'm offended by the term Paddy - isn't that enough?

Interestingly I'm at lunch at work and my PC has blocked the search 'Paddy' but if you look at my original Wiki link one of the definitions for Paddy is a racial slur for the Irish.
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Hilary on March 13, 2018, 07:11:21 AM
If it were St Paddy's Fest then that to me would imply that it's an abbreviation of the name.
PaddyFest to me appears to be a generalization referring to the Irish, which at best is a slang, derogatory term.

I think it would be a wonderful idea honour Tommy on St Patrick's Day each year and to change the name of the Fest to something like Tommy'sFest or Fenderbender'sFest.

Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Mike_S on March 13, 2018, 07:36:59 AM
Got to say... speaking as an Irish person, I think it is just the whole PC correct thing going through everything with a fine tooth comb and now it is the turn of St Patrick's Day or Paddy's Day to be assessed. Plenty of Irish people call it Paddy's day as well as St Patricks Day. I just think where is it all going to end up. We will be in a strait jacket and saying practically anything will cause someone offence... I think we all need to chill...
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Hilary on March 13, 2018, 12:08:53 PM
Here's a history of the word, for those that aren't aware and I think as a person you are entitled to refer to yourself as you want, Irish or otherwise, but it's an entirely different matter when someone else does it.

https://splinternews.com/a-complete-history-of-the-phrase-paddy-wagon-the-survi-1793855618 (https://splinternews.com/a-complete-history-of-the-phrase-paddy-wagon-the-survi-1793855618)


Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Hilary on March 13, 2018, 12:28:12 PM
I registered my objections privately to the Admin 4 years ago and was ignored and dismissed then - which I dealt with by refusing to participate in the Fest ever since but 64 saying that we should remember Tommy in the PaddyFest upset me enough to voice my opinions again more publicly on the forum.
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 13, 2018, 07:07:20 PM
If you do a web search of "PaddyFest", you'll find that Songcrafters isn't the only organisation to use that name. There are plenty of respected St. Patrick's Day festivals all over the world that go by the name "PaddyFest".

Here are some examples:

Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Hook on March 13, 2018, 08:03:22 PM
More things should be offensive!
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Groundy on March 13, 2018, 11:50:07 PM
The funny thing is at the music site in Dublin Tommy was registered as grammer but also known as Paddy Knox.


Postby jabra » Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:53 pm

So sorry to hear of Grammer's passing R.I.P. I knew Tommy for most of my life both of us being old nogginers.
A lot of people called him Paddy Knox really never got to know why.
Rest well old pal.
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Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Hilary on March 14, 2018, 12:22:58 AM
Just because other people do it doesn't make it right.

I completely understand that no malice was intended but this is a welcoming and encouraging online community - even if there is the slightest doubt that this is inappropriate, why would you continue to use it?

(https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20677.0;attach=188119)



Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: TPB on March 14, 2018, 06:06:49 AM
Is bródúil as a bheith Gaeilge paddy aon fhadhb

Sorry it offends you but I think it is all in the context that it is used and the intention.
Timothy Patrick Brennan
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 10, 2021, 10:40:53 PM
PaddyFest (banner image missing)


It's time once again for our annual St. Patrick's Day mini-fest.

Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Ray Brookes on March 11, 2021, 05:05:26 PM
You're right, Tim - "proud to be Irish is no problem" My mob originated from County Meath; sometimes I wish we'd stayed there.
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: Hilary on March 14, 2021, 10:53:49 AM
Totally agree too Tim - my grandma is Irish.
Title: Re: Saint Patrick's Day mini-fest
Post by: 64Guitars on March 09, 2022, 12:48:14 AM
PaddyFest (banner image missing)


Reminder: Our annual St. Patrick's Day mini-fest starts Thursday, March 10th and runs till Thursday, March 17th.