I've listened to Rush since i can remember. I'm into Jethro Tull and Elo. And more recently Dream Theatre and Opeth,both of which are heavily influenced by prog rock. After hearing Witchita's version of a Focus track. I wondered what other Bands i've missed out on. P.F.M. was suggested and van der graaf generator,both of which blow my mind! Any more prog i've missed ;D
How old are you? Hold on, I'll see if it's on your profile ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Yep. 36? Probably sh*t loads then ;D
It's likely you'll land up with a list that'll take you the next 5 years to catch up on ;)
Here's just one to start-- King Crimson.
Try listening to Planet Rock ( but their playlist gets a bit samey after a while!) or Kerrang on DAB/ Sky / online, or Split Infinity online.
My personal favorite prog album is Jethro Tull-Thick as a Brick. Also love Jethro Tull-Minstrel In the Gallery. I also really love all original Genesis (Peter Gabriel era), The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, yes sir that one is a personal favorite for sure. Rush of course (growing up in Canada) is special to me (Farewell to Kings- man what an album, still to this day). I consider The Flaming Lips-At War with the Mystics to be pretty Proggy for a current album and I love it. I guess I am pretty mainstream in my Prog tastes. Great thread idea, I am looking forward to hear other opinions also. ;D
How 'bout Tull Broadsword And The Beast?
I did have King Crimsons Red album somewhere but it never really did it for me,i'll check out lizards.
Farewell to Kings,Hemispheres and Moving Pictures(witch hunt stands out for me"slow to judge,quick to anger,slow too understand,ignorance and predjudice and we walk hand in hand"some fine lyrics) i'd say were their best examples. If i wanted to get someone into Rush i'd suggest these first.
I'm fully versed on Jethro Tull and love their work.
I'll check out Flaming Lips,new band you say.
I'm looking at all your suggestions,thank god for youtube.
I guess you've all heard Dream Theatre's Octavarian,its on youtube and worth a look if you've got 20 min to spair ;)
flaming lips have been around a while but are seen as an indy rock band but are prog in my honest opinion. check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFignuwzpuo
last one before bed but here are my favourites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDmhP6YiN6s
I think I have to go with the standard: "Close to The Edge" by Yes. It's got it all.
In recent years, I've really enjoyed the V album by Spock's Beard.
Blooby
Prog rock, like baldness, has been steadily creeping up on me with age. I sneered at the likes of Jethro Tull and Genesis in my teens and twenties, but now - as my own music and songwriting becomes more complex and diverse - I'm starting to hear wonderful things that used to pass me by. I even bought a Jethro Tull compilation last year. But don't tell my mates :D
There are still a lot of bands mentioned above that I've heard of in bits and pieces, but have never explored in depth. I'm sure I will in time. My dad used to go on about King Crimson a lot, and I've always meant to check them out. I should do really... Robert Fripp did a lot of work with one of my heroes (David Sylvian), so there's a connection already.
david sylvian secret of the beehives thats got to be prog.
Rush, i love prog rock, Rush.
But Rush isn't an old band, they're actual!!! every new record is a step forward, bands with 30+ years like them tend to sound like covers bands, yes yes, i love Rush, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Rush and others. ;)
I love this topic and Rush ;) ;) ;) ;)
Quote from: Prive on March 10, 2009, 04:50:48 AMRush, i love prog rock, Rush.
But Rush isn't an old band, they're actual!!! every new record is a step forward, bands with 30+ years like them tend to sound like covers bands, yes yes, i love Rush, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Rush and others. ;)
I love this topic and Rush ;) ;) ;) ;)
Hey, Prive!!!! Where have you been hiding out. I've missed you! :)
For all the new members on here, Prive is one of the finest and most talented musicians and multi-instrumentalists you will ever meet...
If my memory serves me correct 'Gentle Giant' evolved from Simon Dupree and the Big Sounds and I thing they hailed from the Soton area. I also believe they went to the states and thats when they hit the big time.
Regards
Eddy
Prive! Welcome back. Where have you been?
I had a brief Steve Hillage period. Rainbow Dome Musick was played to death on my gramophone.
I'm ashamed to say I have avoided prog rock all my life thinking it pretentious and lacking emotion :-[
But this site is getting me to question a lot of my musical preconceptions..maybe its time to open pandora's box...
but then I hear the Blues calling ;D..life is very short
cant have a prog rock discussion without yes-all incarnations of them
Here is the best site I have found on Prog Rock, lots of very good info for anyone exploring.
http://www.progarchives.com/ (http://www.progarchives.com/)
Hey Prive is that a Warr Guitar,i'd love to hear you playing that. I listen to Behold the Arctopus that use a warr guitar,they're pretty experimentle and not to everyones taste.
Getting some really great suggestions,Steve Hillage,Gentle Giant. I can hear where some of my favourite bands got their influences from. Keep them coming.
Can you suggest a Yes album i should check out guitarron.
Spocks Beard are real cool,why have i not heard of them? Daft name though :D
OK, not exactly prog rock, but I dug this old album out. It's called
Wowie Zowie, The World Of Progressive Music. Released in '69 I think it was just after progressive stopped being called underground :)
Track list---
Down at Circes Place-- Touch
Where Did I Belong--- John Mayall
Train to Nowhere---Savoy Brown
Voodo Forest----Johnny Almond
Communion---East of Eden
In the Beginning---Genesis
Nights in White Satin----Moody Blues
Computer Lover---William H Strickland
Go Away, Come Back Another Day--John Cameron Quartet
Not Foolish, Not Wise---Keef Hartley Band
I think probably a big WHO???? with some of those?
How about Frank Zappa and the Mothers Of Invention, Captain Beefheart?
Have to go through My Vinyl, see what else is there. Doing it a bit anyway, putting 'em on to MP3.
And Tim, thanks sooooo much for your " My Dad used to go on about King Crimson". I remember them forming!!!! Didn't think it was that long ago 'cos still hear them quite a bit. Now I just feel bloo*y old :'(
Quote from: knniggits on March 10, 2009, 09:58:54 AMCan you suggest a Yes album i should check out guitarron.
Spocks Beard are real cool,why have i not heard of them? Daft name though :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_discography
i like the Drama era-but it's all pretty good stuff
Quote from: knniggits on March 10, 2009, 09:58:54 AMCan you suggest a Yes album i should check out?
I enjoy stuff from their entire career, including post-Drama and their first couple albums, but without reservation, I would start with Fragile, The Yes Album, and Close to the Edge. I think most fans would agree this period represents their peak.
I don''t think Going For the One, Relayer, and Tormato were quite as consistently strong (although Fragile has some odds and ends for sure), and Tales From Topographic Oceans is just too much for a lot of folks (especially as an introduction).
Two cents for the day.
Blooby
Quote from: Blooby on March 10, 2009, 03:38:55 PMQuote from: knniggits on March 10, 2009, 09:58:54 AMCan you suggest a Yes album i should check out?
Fragile, The Yes Album, and Close to the Edge. I think most fans would agree this period represents their peak.
I don''t think Going For the One, Relayer, and Tormato were quite as consistently strong (although Fragile has some odds and ends for sure), and Tales From Topographic Oceans is just too much for a lot of folks (especially as an introduction).
Two cents for the day.
Blooby
that's a good start-the travor rabin stuff was good- a bit of a departure from the Steve Howe stuff
i have seen them about 3 or 4 times over the years
best show i saw had rick wakeman on the tour about 5 or 6 yrs ago
This Rick Wakeman????? :D :D :D
(http://www.geocities.com/grand_central_insanity/Zaius.jpg)
He's looking young there ;D
Steely Dan
Is that Dr. Zaius? Hmmm, Rick Wakeman....hmmmm.
I was watching The Allman Brothers' live Beacon broadcast through Moogis last night, and I realized who Johnny Winter looks like...
(http://microrecorders.org/community/general-discussion-b8/what%27s-your-favourite-old-prog-rock/0/?action=dlattach;attach=2014)
Yes, I do believe that's him in Jeepers Creepers II
Blooby
re yes its gotta be the yes album , fragile and close to the edge i never much liked em after relayer, tho bits of topographic ocean get me going.
but everyone should listen to pawn hearts by van der graaf generator the finest album ever.
Quote from: mr2cool on March 11, 2009, 04:05:51 AMSteely Dan
Oh yeah, Donald Fagin - one of my favourite tracks, the new frontier
Quote from: Flash Harry on March 11, 2009, 06:59:28 AMQuote from: mr2cool on March 11, 2009, 04:05:51 AMSteely Dan
Oh yeah, Donald Fagin - one of my favourite tracks, the new frontier
I never knew that, Mike! It's one of mine too.... !
The lines...
"when I finally make up my mind
to learn design
and study overseas"
... have always resonated big-time.
What a song!!!!
Quote from: Greeny on March 11, 2009, 08:04:12 AMI never knew that, Mike! It's one of mine too.... !
Hells bells, I've got ORH and the Blue Nile on the other side too. Amazing.
QuoteHells bells, I've got ORH and the Blue Nile on the other side too. Amazing.
whadya mean
Blue Nile's "Let's Go Out Tonight" still gives me tingles... :)
Quote from: 3guitarsEddy on March 10, 2009, 06:50:11 AMIf my memory serves me correct 'Gentle Giant' evolved from Simon Dupree and the Big Sounds and I thing they hailed from the Soton area. I also believe they went to the states and thats when they hit the big time.
Regards
Eddy
They did indeed evolve from Simon Dupree and the Big Sound. Saw them several times in the 70s.
Cheers,
Nigel
Quote from: oldrottenhead on March 09, 2009, 04:48:32 PMheres peter hammill with pfm had to shrink to 96kbps despite it saying 128.
check out also gentle giant.
brian eno before and after science and another green world, the song kings lead hat sounds like it was written tomorrow.
any incarnation of king crimson, the album lizard my fave, guest appearance by jon anderson,
bebop deluxe, looked down upon cos they had hit singles but if you think brian eno is clever get to know bill nelson. bill nelsons red noise was like prog punk check out the song revolt into style or furniture music.
current band who i would class as prog, am not shifting on this one, are the flaming lips. any band that releases a 4cd set that has to be played on seperate hifis simultaneously if thats not prog wot is lol.
I have to introudce some disagreement on this otherwise so agreeable forum. ORH, in no way can Brian Eno ever be classed as prog. He is the epitome of cool and never dabbled in pixies, wizards, cloaks and 20 minute guitar solos. Similarly Flaming Lips, where's their concept album and 9/8 sections? Not prog in my book, sorry :D
Prog is Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Wakeman, ELP, Hawkwind et al. My fave is Foxtrot-era Genesis and of course King Crimson.
Cheers,
Nigel
QuoteSimilarly Flaming Lips, where's their concept album
i knew i would start an argument on that lol.
just one word zaireeka http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:d9frxqrjld0e flaming lips are aboutone of my favourite current band, i am not dissing them when i refer to them as prog, but imho they are definetley in the prog spectrum.
brian eno (genuis) no pussyfooting with robert fripp
QuoteBrian Eno ever be classed as prog. He is the epitome of cool and never dabbled in pixies, wizards, cloaks and 20 minute guitar solos.
that may be your description of prog, my definition is someone that is progressing or moving music on and forward.vdgg are pretty much described as prog but i cant think offhand about them dabbling in wizards, pixies and cloaks and 20 minute guitar solo tho the flaming lips mmmmmmmmm think about it your firming up my case. lol.
Quote from: oldrottenhead on March 11, 2009, 05:36:19 AMre yes its gotta be the yes album , fragile and close to the edge i never much liked em after relayer, tho bits of topographic ocean get me going.
but everyone should listen to pawn hearts by van der graaf generator the finest album ever.
agreed on the old stuff is good
drama, 90124 were big in the states causing a "new generation" of yes fans -"Tempus Fugit" (spelling?) is a masterpiece
Quote from: oldrottenhead on March 11, 2009, 12:55:24 PMjust one word zaireeka http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:d9frxqrjld0e flaming lips are aboutone of my favourite current band, i am not dissing them when i refer to them as prog, but imho they are definetley in the prog spectrum.
Nah, that's no prog album. It's a clever idea but a concept album involves spaceships, passages from the bible, journeys into imaginary worlds and lots of sixth form lyrics with a gatefold sleeve and some looney like Michael Moorcock writing stuff all over it :D
Quote from: oldrottenhead on March 11, 2009, 12:55:24 PMbrian eno (genuis) no pussyfooting with robert fripp
Not prog again, that's ambient, Eno's first ambient foray. Used Frippertronics IIRC.
Quote from: oldrottenhead on March 11, 2009, 12:55:24 PMthat may be your description of prog, my definition is someone that is progressing or moving music on and forward.vdgg are pretty much described as prog but i cant think offhand about them dabbling in wizards, pixies and cloaks and 20 minute guitar solo tho the flaming lips mmmmmmmmm think about it your firming up my case. lol.
Ah, here's the rub. You have a different definition of prog - your own! Prog as in moving the boundaries forward continuously and doing something different. Not prog rock as in the true sense of the word, ie stuck in overblown, classically inspired, rather pretentious but deep down rather fun stuff from the 70s. Here's a definition from Wikipedia that nails it for me:
"Progressive rock (often shortened to prog or prog rock) is a form of rock music that evolved in the late 1960s and early 1970s as part of a "mostly British attempt to elevate rock music to new levels of artistic credibility." The term was applied to the music of bands such as King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Soft Machine and Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Progressive rock came into most widespread use around the mid-1970s."
Altho for me think King Crimson went beyond "prog" after Larks Tongues. I know Flaming Lips get a bit hippy drippy from time to time and certainly have done "kind of" concept albums (Like Yoshimi vs the Pink Robots), but they still lack the persian carpets, silk kimonos and samurai swords through keyboards that would mark them out as "true" prog!
Cheers,
Nigel
Quote"mostly British attempt to elevate rock music to new levels of artistic credibility
i think that sums it up, but check this out and i think my argument still holds up. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definition but i'll agree to disagree.
soft machine now theres a band, prog rock too, jazz fusion rock deffo, but prog by your definition?mmmmmmmmm.
Yeah, I wouldn't class Soft Machine (or Kevin Ayers or Matching Mole for that matter) as prog. Those guys on Prog Archive are just trying to big up the genre and make it seem cool :) Mind you, I should talk, as I'm back playing in a band that has heavy prog overtones and even does ELP covers (ulp!). But I have a real soft spot for prog as I grew up with it, even though the punk side of me says I wouldn't dare admit it. Seeing flared jeans still makes me feel uneasy.......
For me, prog always has to be a bit pretentious in a public school sixth form type way. Those guys at Prog Archive proved it when they said "For example, Leitmotif is used to represent the various characters in Genesis' "Harold the Barrel" and "Robbery, Assault and Battery." " Blimey! I thought Peter Gabriel just liked doing funny voices!
Cheers,
Nigel
Here's a nice definition someone posted on an Amazon discussion:
"IMO prog = long tracks with several time changes, heavy overtones of classical and or jazz, incomprehensible lyrics, cant dance to it, huge amounts of guitar/keyboard/flute widdling, not exactly a laff, popular among public schoolboys, induces feelings of suicide in non fans."
nails it for me! (but I still secretly enjoy prog in limited doses)
Cheers,
Nigel
an acquired taste for sure-
QuoteBut I have a real soft spot for prog as I grew up with it, even though the punk side of me says I wouldn't dare admit it.
me too lol.
Pointless starting a New Thread for one post, but a group from the similar era as your esteemed Proggers, is the woefully-underated Atomic Rooster.
I know this isn't from the classic prog-rock era, but I really dig older Spock's Beard back when Neal Morse was in the band.
The piano introduction of this tune ends about 1:05.
Blooby
Quote from: Ferryman on March 12, 2009, 05:13:52 AMHere's a nice definition someone posted on an Amazon discussion:
"IMO prog = long tracks with several time changes, heavy overtones of classical and or jazz, incomprehensible lyrics, cant dance to it, huge amounts of guitar/keyboard/flute widdling, not exactly a laff, popular among public schoolboys, induces feelings of suicide in non fans."
nails it for me! (but I still secretly enjoy prog in limited doses)
Cheers,
Nigel
lmao-didnt miss anyone didiya?-funny-true but funny
it's not for everyone for sure
Quote from: Blooby on March 10, 2009, 03:38:55 PMQuote from: knniggits on March 10, 2009, 09:58:54 AMCan you suggest a Yes album i should check out?
I enjoy stuff from their entire career, including post-Drama and their first couple albums, but without reservation, I would start with Fragile, The Yes Album, and Close to the Edge. I think most fans would agree this period represents their peak.
I don''t think Going For the One, Relayer, and Tormato were quite as consistently strong (although Fragile has some odds and ends for sure), and Tales From Topographic Oceans is just too much for a lot of folks (especially as an introduction).
Two cents for the day.
Blooby
How odd, Blooby -- I wrote almost the exact same thing about Yes on a completely different thread (you'll have to read through a few posts starting with this page to see it all):
https://songcrafters.org/community/micro-br-b65/'white-flag'/msg33150/#msg33150 (https://songcrafters.org/forum/micro-br-b65/'white-flag'/msg33150/#msg33150)
Maybe it's not all that odd, actually ... great minds think alike, sir! ;D
PS: I enjoyed reading Nigel's argument with ORH about The Flaming Lips (my favorite CURRENT band), and can see both sides completely. I don't think a band necessarily has to have concept albums (although the Lips do have at least two) and lyrics including wizards, fairies, leprechauns, spaceships, Bible passages, ancient civilizations, forests, mythological beasts, etc., nor does one necessarily need to have 20-minute songs or excessive keyboard, drum, and guitar solos to be considered "progressive." Nigel, if you just take the definition of "progressive" and look at it objectively and separately from the already established phrase "progressive rock" or "prog rock," you will understand ORH's point. I mean, Zaireeka, for shit's sake ... come on! What's more progressive than that?
HOWEVER, in many people's eyes, only the inclusion of the aformentioned absurd elements and so many more will truly qualify as "prog rock," and I can respect that opinion as well, being a sort of prog geek/purist myself.
On a different note, check out Curved Air, a semi-prog band, and one of the only ones in history to have a female lead singer. In addition to all of the others already mentioned in this thread (and I strongly second votes for the standard Yes, King Crimson, Tull, and Genesis, along with the lesser known Soft Machine, Gentle Giant, and Van der Graaf Generator), some other good prog or semi-prog bands that flew under the radar would be Mushroom, Gong (the best incarnation included Steve Hillage), Caravan, Khan (more Steve Hillage), Focus, and Hawkwind, to name a few.
Rush .. for sure, I grew up listening to Rush, I saw then a couple of times in concert .. I think their best albums are "Farewell to Kings" and "Hemispheres", I still listen to these tunes ..
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Dream Theater is pretty good also ..
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Salut !
Quote from: godinqc on July 06, 2009, 10:41:51 AMRush .. for sure, I grew up listening to Rush, I saw then a couple of times in concert .. I think their best albums are "Farewell to Kings" and "Hemispheres", I still listen to these tunes ..
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Dream Theater is pretty good also ..
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Salut !
I couldn't agree more on those two Rush albums. Love it.
Quote from: Bosko Schwartz on July 06, 2009, 10:08:56 AMPS: I enjoyed reading Nigel's argument with ORH about The Flaming Lips (my favorite CURRENT band), and can see both sides completely.
HOWEVER, in many people's eyes, only the inclusion of the aformentioned absurd elements and so many more will truly qualify as "prog rock," and I can respect that opinion as well, being a sort of prog geek/purist myself.
On a different note, check out Curved Air, a semi-prog band, and one of the only ones in history to have a female lead singer. In addition to all of the others already mentioned in this thread (and I strongly second votes for the standard Yes, King Crimson, Tull, and Genesis, along with the lesser known Soft Machine, Gentle Giant, and Van der Graaf Generator), some other good prog or semi-prog bands that flew under the radar would be Mushroom, Gong (the best incarnation included Steve Hillage), Caravan, Khan (more Steve Hillage), Focus, and Hawkwind, to name a few.
LOL, you nailed it again Bosko. Now I've released my inner prog, I agree that the best bits of prog are really cool and that the Lips do possess those. They don't do the excesses (silk kimonos, persian carpets, 30 minute solos, Michael Moorcock poetry and thank goodness for that).
Curved Air, careful, I may need to have a lie down. Sonja Kristina, goodness what a front person for a band. Her and Stacia (the dancer out of Hawkwind Space Ritual era) were teenage fantasies of mine. And I loved Curved Air. I had that album, the first ever picture disc, about one inch thick! Also enjoyed Darryl Way's Wolf.
That list of bands you wrote pretty much sums up how I spent the years 1973 to 1976. I saw most of them. Then I saw the Damned in early 77 and changed overnight. But that's another story.....
Cheers,
Nigel
I just discovered this topic.
Here are a few I didn't see mentioned for your prog enclopedia:
Brand X (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_X): Evolved into a side project for Phil Collins--and completely misled Genesis fans about the direction Collins' solo career would take. I particularly like the album Product.
Horslips (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horslips): Celtic rock, but prog enough. I liked The Book of Invasions.
UK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_%28band%29): What do you to if you are Bill Bruford and John Wetton--and Robert Fripp has kicked you out of Club Crimson? You blow minds without Little Bobby. The first album is the best.
David Sancious (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sancious): More talented than God, he's a side man who has played with a few prog acts. I saw him with Jon Anderson and with Jack Bruce--two shows I might not have seen otherwise. Check out the albums True Stories and Just as I Thought.
And if anyone wants to argue that these aren't prog (Nigel), I'll concede. (Even though you'd be wrong).
Ted, I may be wrong ;) but Brand X are more jazz than prog. They went in a direction I couldn't follow (as you'll understand from my post).
Horslips, now there's a band - had pretty much everything they ever did on vinyl, never got to see them live, except on the TV. Not "true" prog in all of the excesses but definitely prog in their concepts - historical concept albums, taking traditional Irish music and fusing it with rock. Very cool band and now I realise a massive influence on the kind of thing I am doing now - prog with a 4/4 beat!
If you don't know Horslips, then check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5G8AJf4XzwDon't know David Sancious, will have to check him out and also listen to more UK.
Cheers,
Nigel
Tull, genesis, yes, elp, .... any many others mentioned here by others too !!
One band nobody has brought up is Kansas! Not hardcore prog maybe but still !! Listened to a lot of their work, .... well I have almost every record they made :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCYIiHAhIdo
Quote from: Greeny on July 07, 2009, 02:08:36 AMDo The Wombles count?! :D
Hmmm, well they have ridiculous costumes, a whole concept behind them, so.....
But I don't remember Uncle Bulgaria's penchant for silk kimonos and samurai swords, nor Madame Cholay's 30 minute dulicimer solos, so probably not.... :D
Cheers,
Nigel
Quote from: Geir on July 07, 2009, 03:00:06 AMTull, genesis, yes, elp, .... any many others mentioned here by others too !!
One band nobody has brought up is Kansas! Not hardcore prog maybe but still !! Listened to a lot of their work, .... well I have almost every record they made :)
Yup, that's prog. The violinist's hair qualifies before you even hear the music!!!
Cheers,
Nigel
Quote from: Ferryman on July 07, 2009, 03:34:15 AMQuote from: Greeny on July 07, 2009, 02:08:36 AMDo The Wombles count?! :D
Hmmm, well they have ridiculous costumes, a whole concept behind them, so.....
But I don't remember Uncle Bulgaria's penchant for silk kimonos and samurai swords, nor Madame Cholay's 30 minute dulicimer solos, so probably not.... :D
Cheers,
Nigel
Chris Spedding was Wellington!!!!!!!
QuotePS: I enjoyed reading Nigel's argument with ORH about The Flaming Lips (my favorite CURRENT band), and can see both sides completely. I don't think a band necessarily has to have concept albums (although the Lips do have at least two) and lyrics including wizards, fairies, leprechauns, spaceships, Bible passages, ancient civilizations, forests, mythological beasts, etc., nor does one necessarily need to have 20-minute songs or excessive keyboard, drum, and guitar solos to be considered "progressive." Nigel, if you just take the definition of "progressive" and look at it objectively and separately from the already established phrase "progressive rock" or "prog rock," you will understand ORH's point. I mean, Zaireeka, for shit's sake ... come on! What's more progressive than that?
i have always defined prog rock as something that pushes the boundarys of music and trys new, different and experimental things, by that definition zaireeka by the laming lips should be the number 1 prog rock album ever. lmfao
Quote from: Greeny on July 07, 2009, 03:46:25 AMChris Spedding was Wellington!!!!!!!
LOL, I thought I recalled that while I was typing the response but wasn't sure. What a come down, but it pays the rent!
Cheers,
Nigel
Quote from: oldrottenhead on July 07, 2009, 04:40:09 AMi have always defined prog rock as something that pushes the boundarys of music and trys new, different and experimental things, by that definition zaireeka by the laming lips should be the number 1 prog rock album ever. lmfao
Well said, ORH -- I concur! Most people don't even have the equipment nor the coordination it takes to listen to the album the way it was meant to be heard. How utterly pretentious and absurd ... AND AWESOME!!! ;D ;D
Quote from: Geir on July 07, 2009, 03:00:06 AMOne band nobody has brought up is Kansas! Not hardcore prog maybe but still !! Listened to a lot of their work, .... well I have almost every record they made :)
Geir, that's so funny -- I wanted to bring up Kansas, but I feared the Wrath of Nigel, so didn't do it just in case he thought they didn't qualify! ;D Luckily, Kerry Livgren's hair is ridiculous enough ...
Rick Wakeman... prog-overdrive...
(http://bieds.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/dr-z.jpg)
Quote from: Bosko Schwartz on July 07, 2009, 09:34:29 AMI wanted to bring up Kansas, but I feared the Wrath of Nigel, so didn't do it just in case he thought they didn't qualify!
And you are right to fear it!!! Upset me and I will be round at your house to read you a selection of Michael Moorcock poems dressed as a Slipperman from the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.
Fear my wrath
Nigel
Quote from: Ferryman on July 07, 2009, 01:38:14 AMTed, I may be wrong ;) but Brand X are more jazz than prog. They went in a direction I couldn't follow (as you'll understand from my post).
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Don't know David Sancious, will have to check him out and also listen to more UK.
I'm not much of a Jazz fan. Nonetheless, I lean a little toward the Jazz side of the Prog spectrum. David Sancious and UK are on that side of the spectrum too.
Damn you, Prog, for tricking me into listening to Jazz!Product is probably the most accessible album by Brand X -- a couple of songs were almost radio-friendly at the time.
Prog (like Punk) is kind of hard to define. I fall back on my
Subjective Definitions:
- If it makes me feel like breaking things (other than the source of the sound), it's probably Punk.
- It it makes me feel ashamed of my own musicianship (and ashamed that I might be caught listening to it) it's probably Prog.
brand x are more jazz than prog?, so what are soft machine more prog than jazz?
Nah, Soft Machine have too much jazz to be prog. They are jazz rock. Hatfield and the North varied between the two, some of their stuff got a bit too jazzy. Gong the same - went very jazzy at stages but still had bonkers hippy prog at their core.
Next question please.
BTW Bosko, nailed it again! And if everyone else is ashamed of your musicianship, it's probably jazz.
Cheers,
Nigel
QuoteNah, Soft Machine have too much jazz to be prog.
QuoteSoft Machine were an English rock band from Canterbury, named after the book The Soft Machine by William S. Burroughs. They were one of the central bands in the so-called "Canterbury scene," and helped pioneer the progressive rock genre.
Don't buy it - whole Canterbury Scene was more jazz rock than real prog. Remember, Fear my wrath Fear my wrath Fear my wrath
But they all had long greasy hair, complex time signatures and long solos so I won't get too wrathful if you feel they are prog.
Cheers,
Nigel
i'm standing my ground nigel.
re prog rock i dont consider a band like marillion to be prog caos they where only repeating what was already done, as for dream theater lets not go there. lmfao.
ooh eck missus i can feel the wrath
Yes, you still see prog as "progressive", ie moving forwards, whereas I see prog as stuck in a timewarp. I'm being harsh, but that's the fundamentally difference. But I still quite like it.
Now here's a question - Muse? Prog or not?
Cheers,
Nigel
Quote from: Ferryman on July 07, 2009, 11:00:22 AMYes, you still see prog as "progressive", ie moving forwards, whereas I see prog as stuck in a timewarp. I'm being harsh, but that's the fundamentally difference. But I still quite like it.
On queue: Another plug for King Crimson. Many Prog bands pushed beyond the frontier of Rock, only to settle in their own territory--with occasional forays into other settled regions (pop, jazz, classical).
KC continued--and continues--to explore new frontiers. Certainly not the most experimental band ever. But Crimson appeals to fans (like me) who have one foot in the mainstream, but occasionally want to experience a some real musical danger.
Quote from: Ferryman on July 07, 2009, 11:00:22 AMNow here's a question - Muse? Prog or not?
By the static definition, no. By the frontier-pushing definition, yes.
QuoteMuse? Prog or not?
never been into them not really listened to them but apparently a good band,but ive heard them cried prog and they do sound like public schoolboy types but i dunno..
perhaps i should go listen suggest something nigel.
Muse? Are you f-ing kidding me? Nigel, it sounds like you just have a beef with Mr. RottenHead. You would dare even
consider Muse to be prog, yet discount Soft Machine and Lips? Remember your own "time-warp" definition when considering Muse. ;D
Quote from: oldrottenhead on July 07, 2009, 10:50:28 AMas for dream theater lets not go there. lmfao.
I, too, am Laughing My Fucking Ass Off. Dream Theatre is the reason I don't care that I am not a musical virtuoso on any particular instrument. Because ability alone is pointless without soul. 8)
My opinion on Dream Theatre is just that -- an opinion. Even things like "soul" are subjective. What I think is soulful, others might think robotic. And vice versa.
I'm completely with you on Rush (Signals was their last great album). I love Rush, especially as a drummer myself, but there's also a reason Neil Peart is not my favorite drummer, or not even in my top 5. He's incredible, but he's sometimes too machine-like. My favorite drummer is John Bonham. Not the fastest or most technically skilled, obviously, but goddamnit, his beats are just so thick, so driving. He was the backbone of an amazing band. As for Rush, Geddy and Alex are more "human" and less robotic than Neil, so there's a good balance there. It's why there is still some soul in Rush, IMO.
I understand liking musicians who are technically superior, but with me, it's just more a case of appreciating those with technical brilliance. My favorite band is The Beatles -- 'nuff said. Not a technically incredible musician in the bunch.
RE my above post:
Blooby ... umm ... did you remove your post, or do I now find myself in the Twlight Zone replying to something I thought I read but didn't really??? ???
Bosko, I must have deleted my tripe as you were typing. Sorry.
Or did I? (insert spooky music here)
Blooby
IT DOES EXIST!!! HA! The beautiful wonders of the "BACK" button!
Recant? Why would you recant? Here it is ...
I would disagree to a point. Some of my most enjoyable concert experiences have been the result of being blown away by technical virtuosity whether from Steve Vai, Jan Hammer, Kenny Garrett, Leo Kottke, or Neil Peart.
As for the latter, I would be tempted to lump him into your above comment. I am a fan of Rush (up through most of Signals), but I find his inability to swing/breath irritating at times. Even when he did his Burnin' For Buddy (Rich) tribute, I found him immovably stiff. I like him because of his technical brilliance.
Maybe the "soul" part of the equation is just incredibly idiosyncratic.
My head hurts now. I have to go mull some more.
Blooby
You and your evil, evil ways!
What manner of conjurer are you (or is "ye" more prog?)?
Blooby
Quote from: Blooby on July 07, 2009, 04:51:07 PMYou and your evil, evil ways!
What manner of conjurer are you (or is "ye" more prog?)?
Blooby
Only to protect my own sanity, did I use the magical powers to conjure up The Lost Post. :o Sorry if it has destroyed yours!
... Or am I?
;D
Here we go again, remember the last time it was The Lost Song (https://songcrafters.org/forum/micro-br-b65/bad-things-(cover)/0/), and it ended up making Gier vanish to the depths for a while (Nirvana, Heaven, Hell, Valhalla? who knows, only Geir knows, and he's not talking until his next song is written). I am starting to feel all weird and light, like I am floating.........damn musicians.
Quote from: Bosko Schwartz on July 07, 2009, 04:09:02 PMMuse? Are you f-ing kidding me? Nigel, it sounds like you just have a beef with Mr. RottenHead. You would dare even consider Muse to be prog, yet discount Soft Machine and Lips? Remember your own "time-warp" definition when considering Muse. ;D
Aha! You fell into my cunning trap! Well, actually I thought I had fallen into it because on the surface you are right. Muse certainly have prog leanings I think. So I thought I would have to admit I was wrong. But on thinking about it, you may be confusing "progressive" with "recent". Just because they are modern, doesn't necessarily mean they have moved anything forward. Their music certainly has nothing particularly new in it IMO. It is a clever blend of classically influenced rock with a very heavy dose of Queen, and increasingly a pop sensibility. Nothing new there. Their strengths are that they are young, good looking (so I am told), brilliant musicians and performers and they write good songs. They deserve their reputation as a mega band but I don't think they are pushing any musical boundaries (in fact they have made "prog" fashionable IMO, part of what got me doing more proggy stuff). The one area they do innovate is in Matt Bellamy's guitar playing - the first guy to really exploit the "electric" aspect of the guitar since Beck, Hendrix et al experimented with feedback.
Cheers,
Nigel
Quote from: Bosko Schwartz on July 07, 2009, 04:09:02 PMMuse? Are you f-ing kidding me? Nigel, it sounds like you just have a beef with Mr. RottenHead. You would dare even consider Muse to be prog, yet discount Soft Machine and Lips? Remember your own "time-warp" definition when considering Muse. ;D
Quote from: Ferryman on July 08, 2009, 02:28:27 AMMuse certainly have prog leanings I think.
"Prog leanings" does not make a band prog! ;D
Quote from: Bosko Schwartz on July 08, 2009, 06:26:58 AMQuote from: Bosko Schwartz on July 07, 2009, 04:09:02 PMMuse? Are you f-ing kidding me? Nigel, it sounds like you just have a beef with Mr. RottenHead. You would dare even consider Muse to be prog, yet discount Soft Machine and Lips? Remember your own "time-warp" definition when considering Muse. ;D
Quote from: Ferryman on July 08, 2009, 02:28:27 AMMuse certainly have prog leanings I think.
"Prog leanings" does not make a band prog! ;D
I've never really thought of Muse as prog. For me, they're just aping Radiohead in too many ways for me to like them or rate them particuarly highly. Don't get me wrong, Matt Bellamy is an ultra-talented and highly experimental kind of guitarist. But that's the problem - he's TOO good. I can't stand self-conscious 'cleverness' of that magnitude. In fact, I'd like to give him a good kicking. There - I said it!
* stand back and waits for the fireworks *
lol
Quotethey're just aping Radiohead
thats a band i would consider progressive , they continually push the boundaries and experiment , i dont always like what they do, but at least the are trying to be different and original
Weird. I wouldn't put Radiohead and Muse in the same category. Radiohead to me are alternative, indie and almost modern shoegazers, certainly very experimental in places. Muse to me are a prog oriented rock band that listened to a lot of Queen but dropped the pantomime clowning of Freddie (although kept the histrionic vocals and Brian May-ish guitar). I never saw any similarity between the two.
Just shows how personal all this stuff is! This has been a fascinating discussion but shows how hard it is to classify anything. But it's fun trying. I guess we will have to agree to have Jim prog(ressive) and Nigel (time warp) prog. I sure we can create a few more sub genres as well.
BTW Tim, no probs about your view on Mr Bellamy. Great guiatrist, produces amazing sounds and has done great things with a Kaoss pad but is certainly an odd chap. Wouldn't wan't to stand in your way. There's very few "stars" that I would actually want to know as people!
And finally, here's my Radiohead claim to fame - I used to have the same hairdresser as them. The girl that cut my hair when we lived not far from Oxford also styled their hair. Stupidly I never went to see them when they were still playing the smaller venues around Oxford.
Cheers,
Nigel
Quote from: Greeny on July 08, 2009, 06:42:39 AMQuote from: Bosko Schwartz on July 08, 2009, 06:26:58 AMQuote from: Bosko Schwartz on July 07, 2009, 04:09:02 PMMuse? Are you f-ing kidding me? Nigel, it sounds like you just have a beef with Mr. RottenHead. You would dare even consider Muse to be prog, yet discount Soft Machine and Lips? Remember your own "time-warp" definition when considering Muse. ;D
Quote from: Ferryman on July 08, 2009, 02:28:27 AMMuse certainly have prog leanings I think.
"Prog leanings" does not make a band prog! ;D
I've never really thought of Muse as prog. For me, they're just aping Radiohead in too many ways for me to like them or rate them particuarly highly. Don't get me wrong, Matt Bellamy is an ultra-talented and highly experimental kind of guitarist. But that's the problem - he's TOO good. I can't stand self-conscious 'cleverness' of that magnitude. In fact, I'd like to give him a good kicking. There - I said it!
* stand back and waits for the fireworks *
lol
Can i fire the first one back!!! Muse, in my opinion, are the best British band around at the minute and have in Matt Bellamy THE most talented guitarist/pianist/singer/songwriter that we have produced for many a year.
Seeing them live is a great experience, and were they truly excel.
Just my opinion, thats all!!
I'm a huge radiohead fan, btw... !
I saw them at one of their Victoria Park 'tent' gigs, but never shared a hairdresser, lol
Jonny Greenwood = understated genius
Matt Bellamy = smug genius
That's the difference for me!
Maybe I'm just jealous of how good he is :D
Quote from: andrewh on July 08, 2009, 07:07:22 AMCan i fire the first one back!!! Muse, in my opinion, are the best British band around at the minute and have in Matt Bellamy THE most talented guitarist/pianist/singer/songwriter that we have produced for many a year.
Seeing them live is a great experience, and were they truly excel.
Just my opinion, thats all!!
Agree that they are indeed a great band, but Matt Bellamy is a bit weird. Not sure he's fully connected with reality. Doesn't stop them producing great music though, and they were born to play in the stadium. Their Wembley gig was one of the best I have ever seen at all levels - music, spectacle and entertainment.
Cheers,
Nigel
Whilst I do not deny that Jonny Greenwood is a very talented and revered guitarist, Bellamy for me, has the total package and is the genius and driving force behind Muse.
Don't think that I can agree with you Tim that he is smug, as never appears to come across that way in interviews, although is very self assured and confident on stage (probably cos he knows he is so good!!)
Having listened to your songs for a time now Tim, I am very jealous of how good you are...an understated genius also!!!
Quote from: Ferryman on July 08, 2009, 07:15:56 AMQuote from: andrewh on July 08, 2009, 07:07:22 AMCan i fire the first one back!!! Muse, in my opinion, are the best British band around at the minute and have in Matt Bellamy THE most talented guitarist/pianist/singer/songwriter that we have produced for many a year.
Seeing them live is a great experience, and were they truly excel.
Just my opinion, thats all!!
Agree that they are indeed a great band, but Matt Bellamy is a bit weird. Not sure he's fully connected with reality. Doesn't stop them producing great music though, and they were born to play in the stadium. Their Wembley gig was one of the best I have ever seen at all levels - music, spectacle and entertainment.
Cheers,
Nigel
Agree with you Nigel, that Mr Bellamy is a little strange, but I always say that a lot of geniuses are!! The Wembley gig still gets played on my DVD regularly, a truly amazing gig and spectacle
I have to admit, I have never heard of Muse before, hey I am a 44 year old Canadian (thats my excuse), but I just checked them out. That singer/guitarist guy (you say his name is Matt Bellamy) is brilliant. I was looking at video from Wembley Stadium. He is a bonafide guitar god from the days of old, sheesh, I haven't been excited by a young guitar player like this for a while. Very good. Hey may be out-there, but his playing and singing is out-of-site from my limited perspective. I mean who the hell plays guitar like this anymore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0sbN1e0zr8
Look closely and you'll see he has a Kaossilator (http://www.korgkaossilator.com/) built into his guitar -- although I didn't see him use it in the video.
Click here to see how some of us here love Kaossilators. (https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?action=search2&search=Kaossilator)
There's already been enough back-and-forth about Radiohead and Muse, but back to the original discussion, to sum things up: neither of them are "prog" in the classic sense (Nigel's definition), but both are very "progressive" in the literal sense of the word (ORH's definition). So both Nigel and Mike are right and wrong. How do you like THEM apples? ;D
My opinion is similar to Greeny's (big surprise, huh?) in that I love Radiohead and feel Muse is trying too hard to be the next Radiohead ... or perhaps a better version of them. HOWEVER, before you Muse freaks go apeshit on me, let me clarify that I have only heard one album of theirs, sent to me by a musician friend who WORSHIPS Muse, and this was my impression based on one full listen to one album. I have been known to change my mind, and things do sometimes grow on me, but at my age, I only have so much time to spare, so I gave up Muse based on that one listen. Maybe one day I'll try them again.
Nah, probably not.
It also doesn't help when someone builds up a band to be godlike, because your expectations are then just too high -- and that's what my friend did. But again, my Musical Gods are The Beatles, so to me, anything described as "godlike" or "genius," musically, makes me automatically compare it to The Beatles, no matter how different the music may be. And it is then virtually guaranteed to pale in comparison. If he had just said, "Hey, check out Muse; they're pretty good," I may have liked them a lot better.
Nah, probably not. ;D
Speaking of Radiohead-like bands that are really good, everyone should check out
Midlake when they get a chance. Their first album,
Bamnan and Silvercork, is almost Radiohead-ripoff-material -- but in a much more mellow sense than Muse -- and I still like it. The main comparison I think is just that the singer tends to sound quite like Thom Yorke at times. But on their second album,
The Trials of Van Occupanther, they really formed their own sound came into their own.
http://midlake.net/blog/ (http://midlake.net/blog/)
http://www.myspace.com/midlake (http://www.myspace.com/midlake)
My favorite song is probably "Young Bride."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtpSidPN3jQ
Boscko, great band, that reminds me of "The Decemberists" for some reason, Portland Oregon band that just may be Prog. I feel they are Prog, maybe folk-prog in the Jethro Tull sense. The song that you posted is really good. The Decemberists, Prog or not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp_MVc3abXUQuoteThe band's fifth album, The Hazards of Love, represents the most glorious kind of messing around. It's the most ambitious and most accomplished project to date from the Portland-based quintet of Meloy, Chris Funk, Jenny Conlee, Nate Query, and John Moen—a full-length song cycle rooted in ancient language and imagery, yet entirely modern and accessible. The follow-up to the group's 2006 breakthrough, The Crane Wife (which NPR listeners voted their favorite album of the year), The Hazards of Love solidifies the Decemberists' standing as one of the most innovative and important creative forces in music today.
http://www.decemberists.com/about.aspx (http://www.decemberists.com/about.aspx)
I don't think anyone's mentioned Strawbs yet. "Hero & Heroine" is a classic prog rock album and one of my favourites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuuCHawtzZc
Dixie Dregs
Prog or Not Prog?
The Strawbs, yes I love that band also. Thats classic Prog for sure, and very good.
Muse's origin's of symmetry,their first album,is a classic in my opinion :P
I'd put then in the modern prog category.
I think prog rocks influence can be heard in many of my favourite bands. Iron Maiden prog? No. Heavily influenced though. Queen's first album,prog from start to finish.
I don't think prog rock ever went away,its influence can be heard in rock and metal over the years.
October 10th Wembley Dream Theatre and Opeth :)
Gonna be coool
Quote from: knniggits on July 09, 2009, 08:00:02 AMOctober 10th Wembley Dream Theatre and Opeth :)
Gonna be coool
I would check out Opeth and then leave immediately. ;D
FM (Cameron Hawkins and Nash the Slash (http://www.nashtheslash.com/)). Canadian prog from 1976:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY9NVFhZlkg "Phasors on Stun"Love that electric mandolin. Here's a YouTube video of somebody playing "Phasors on Stun" on a Godin A8 mandolin (http://www.godinguitars.com/godina8p.htm). It demonstrates the mandolin part of the song better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfImUwxbBUwPretty cool. I want one!
The quality of the FM video above is not the greatest and it lacks the drums (Martin Deller) of the studio recording which you can hear in this YouTube clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxRIURiGTBU) (no video though).
i digress!
I confess.....
i crossdress
I progress to expose my bareness due to my excess of success with which I assess my winepress after removing my nightdress which I have just made a mess with my largess of fine noblesse lager.
get tae yur bed...............durty boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8GsLEx-IJQinterestingly enough, the singer was aked to audition as a replacement for Peter Gabriel whe he left Genesis, but declined ::)
If you don't think prog is pretentious enough, check this out:
http://www-3.unipv.it/britishrock1966-1976/testien/spi1en.htm (http://www-3.unipv.it/britishrock1966-1976/testien/spi1en.htm)
Talk about someone with too much time on their hands......
Here's a treat for Jim, a good quality recording of Supper's Ready, live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M58wE8GTGp4This looks dated and somewhat naive now, but at the time, I guarantee there was nothing like it. Pink Floyd came close for me a year or so later on the Dark Side of the Moon tour, but they had no Gabriel figure. The theatricality coupled with the lights and music made for a totally awe-inspiring experience, at least for the 14 year old me. This convinced me all I wanted to do was to play in a band. Just watch from about 21:30 to the crescendo, if that doesn't get shivers going up your back, you must be dead from the neck down...... ;)
Gabriel was/is a superb vocalist with such power and expression in his voice. Pity the costumes and silly voices became too much a part of the show....
Cheers,
Nigel
Quote from: Geir on February 10, 2012, 06:08:38 PMinterestingly enough, the singer was aked to audition as a replacement for Peter Gabriel whe he left Genesis, but declined ::)
Blimey, not what I expected at all - I couldn't believe what I was hearing! The only Popol Vuh I knew was the Krautrock version, no wonder these guys changed their name!
Cheers,
Nigel
cheers nigel i have the above performace on an hd dvd, it's braw tell yer maw. never got to see genesis but saw pg on his first two tours and he was awesome a master of stagecraft.
Saw Rush repentantly at the O2, they played well but the sound was horrible. Saw Toto soon after, they were awesome - smaller venue (Hammy Odeon), miles better sound.
I was a big Magnum fan in my youth - Story Tellers Night is still a great album.
braw tell yer maw wrang genre whoo kerrs
broon sauce on his chips tho seriously dodgy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvSTFbqQRug
Quote from: Ferryman on February 12, 2012, 07:58:06 AMHere's a treat for Jim, a good quality recording of Supper's Ready, live:
...
The theatricality coupled with the lights and music made for a totally awe-inspiring experience, at least for the 14 year old me. This convinced me all I wanted to do was to play in a band.
I watched the whole thing. I'd only seen photos of Gabriel's silly costumes from that era. I didn't know there was a movie/DVD.
I bet it was a great show to attend. Watching it on the small screen, however, I felt kind of embarrassed for Peter Gabriel. Like, if I were him, would I feel okay that there was video of me jumping and gooning around like an attention-seeking five-year-old in front of a camcorder? I guess he hast to be okay with it. But to be immersed in it live, it probably made total sense as a performer and as a spectator.
Also: I recently made up a little arpeggio thing on my uke. And it vaguely reminded me of something. Now I know it reminds me of Genesis.
That would be Magnum for me - I loved this band.
Song for age?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1SlecJKbTE
Hmm and then there was this band. I bought the LP when I was at school for 25p in WHSmiths.
It was one of those albums I never managed to fathom (shall I say politely) - but it made an impression as I still remember it after all these years! (I hope there's no Gnidrolog fans out there!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cglAk-JXq4
And this Band who were most definitely prog (actually very good) - they employed a full time poet to write lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhc8-vUp8o
and for all you Rush fans out there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BFPt001PYUfeaturing Geddy Lee ....
Unless you were to make me stop an think about it, right now I'd say that U.K. was my favorite Prog band... the original lineup: John Wetton, Eddie Jobson, Allan Holdsworth and Bill Bruford.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RC6XSAZwOsMy favorite after King Crimson, and ...
Crap. Now I've stopped to think about.
The quality of this video is crappy in every possible way. You'll have to take my word that the first album by U.K. was and still is amazing.
Quote from: Ted on February 20, 2012, 06:28:28 PMUnless you were to make me stop an think about it, right now I'd say that U.K. was my favorite Prog band... the original lineup: John Wetton, Eddie Jobson, Allan Holdsworth and Bill Bruford.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RC6XSAZwOs
My favorite after King Crimson, and ...
Crap. Now I've stopped to think about.
The quality of this video is crappy in every possible way. You'll have to take my word that the first album by U.K. was and still is amazing.
The studio version of that tune has one of the best guitar solos I've ever heard.
Blooby
Bought this album for 25p in the bargain bucket in WHSmith - it was a very strange album then and now, and now is considered rare!! Definitely very prog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cglAk-JXq4