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Title: asking you guitar players
Post by: Wiley on March 04, 2009, 06:39:12 PM
I was talking to a friend of mine, I had asked him if he would put some good old fashioned country leads in some songs.  (He plays very good rock guitar)  He told me he likes country but that all the licks etc are different than like rock and blues guitar.. I guess I thought runs were all basicly the same.  He said he really didn't know how to play these licks.  I guess I'm just wondering you guys opinions of this.  I never really thought about it before.  Maybe my feeble guitar playing has been barking up the wrong tree. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: AlchemyMN on March 04, 2009, 10:07:22 PM
Same notes, but the tone, phrasing, and sequence are very different...

Here is a guy who can play the country thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2UcufFislE

He's using a Strat with compression, but he normally plays a Tele...
Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: Blooby on March 05, 2009, 04:13:16 AM

When I think of country, it's with a clean, highly compressed tone through single-coils, more open string runs, double-stops, and fake pedal-steel licks.

I'm sure I'm over simplifying.

Blooby
Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: guitarron on March 05, 2009, 05:16:32 AM
Quote from: Blooby on March 05, 2009, 04:13:16 AMWhen I think of country, it's with a clean, highly compressed tone through single-coils, more open string runs, double-stops, and fake pedal-steel licks.

I'm sure I'm over simplifying.

Blooby

um yah that about sums it up-
it's only simple if you can already do it
-some of the best guitarists i've ever seen were country players
check out i dont give a donald at nevermet site
Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: Greeny on March 05, 2009, 05:25:49 AM
Telecasters are (generally) a pretty key component too...
Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: tkofaith on March 05, 2009, 07:43:49 AM
Quote from: guitarron on March 05, 2009, 05:16:32 AM
Quote from: Blooby on March 05, 2009, 04:13:16 AMWhen I think of country, it's with a clean, highly compressed tone through single-coils, more open string runs, double-stops, and fake pedal-steel licks.

I'm sure I'm over simplifying.

Blooby

um yah that about sums it up-
it's only simple if you can already do it
-some of the best guitarists i've ever seen were country players
check out i dont give a donald at nevermet site

Don't forget the country thirds!  A large part of the country sound comes from the use of thirds (double stops with the 1 and the 3 or flat 3).
Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: Bro on March 05, 2009, 09:51:53 AM
Well... Your friend has a point.

You ask a blues player to play country, it might just sound as tele blues..

Or for me it would at least.. Anyway, if i was you i would either write a country sounding solo, or make a country player play on your song  8)

Take care, and remember to upload the song as soon as its finish  :)
Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: Wiley on March 05, 2009, 05:14:56 PM
Thanks a lot guys I will give this some thought.  I guess I thought lead playing was lead playing.  didn't know it involved so much.  ;D
Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: The Reverend 48 on March 07, 2009, 05:39:07 AM
Quote from: wiley on March 05, 2009, 05:14:56 PMThanks a lot guys I will give this some thought.  I guess I thought lead playing was lead playing.  didn't know it involved so much.  ;D

From my limited knowledge a lot of blues is played in a minor key whilst a lot of country is played in a major key ( same scale but played 4 frets lower)

thats just the beginning then comes the hard part getting phrases and expressions right....
Whilst a lot of country is played on single coils...I believe most guitars can produce a fair country solo......

Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: guitarron on March 07, 2009, 09:02:00 AM

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Whilst a lot of country is played on single coils...I believe most guitars can produce a fair country solo......


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split coils work well too
i used a strat with a trem-setter for many years until i got my brian moore(with the split coils)
Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: Dmann on March 09, 2009, 03:40:42 PM
 From my experiences, there is no country solo's really. A good buddy of mine took the country route and went touring with his mother who was a vocalist back when we were 16 while I stayed with metal/rock.

 He always tells me how most leads are more of an melody and usually played throughout the whole song as more of a backing and filling as opposed to the dedicated lead/solo part. In addition a fair amount of it is chicken picking or banjo style picking and usually duo'd with a violin or steel guitar.

 Obviously there are exceptions to this, but I just wanted to share, what he shared with me. Hes been playing country covers live now for about 20 years, and his Mom's band still has bookings 6 months in advance.
Title: Re: asking you guitar players
Post by: Wiley on March 09, 2009, 04:38:02 PM
I jammed yesterday with a country band.  They do a lot of the old country and I listened and watched and what they played is an entirely different sort of thing.  I don't know how to explain it.  Should a took a video with my digital camera LOL.   He made things look so simple.  And yes it was melody, but he played it in harmony or something.  Looked like he only played top 2 or 3 strings.   G B &E  Anyway it was fun.  I took my Br maybe I will post one of the songs.  It was live and sitting on a chair so don't know how they sound yet. Haven't listened. Thanks again.