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Post Your Work => Original Songs => Topic started by: Pedro on December 16, 2007, 05:34:12 PM

Title: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: Pedro on December 16, 2007, 05:34:12 PM
Here, you upload your finished work to be listened and commented by other members. If you want to post a collaboration song, post it the Collaboration board (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?board=93.0) or Covers (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?board=92.0), please.

Rules:


How to Upload your MP3

Press New Topic on the top right side of the board, below the search box.

(https://songcrafters.org/images/new_topic2.jpg)

Upload to our server

Uploading to our server will be easier and allows for the song to be indexed by the forum for easier listening by other members.

On the song topic, below the post text there is a Upload Song bar. Press Browse and choose the MP3 file on your computer that you want to upload.
(https://songcrafters.org/images/upload_bar.jpg)

Write your text for the song and press Post.

(https://songcrafters.org/images/post_topic.gif)

Depending on your connection, you will probably have to wait 10 minutes. Just leave the window open and go do something else.  :)

Upload to external hosting

Post your file offsite (SoundClick, box.net, etc.) then link to it in your message using the [singlemp3][/singlemp3], [soundclick][/soundclick], or [url][/url] BB Code tags.

When you're ready to post everything, press Post.

You can also use Soundclick or any other host, you must paste the link to where it is hosted on the song topic text. The rules are the same, except the size rule.

Remember, review and be reviewed!

Have fun!
Title: Re: See here how to upload your work & few rules
Post by: 71MartinD28 on July 07, 2008, 03:17:09 PM
WARNING:  If you value your hard work, song writing skills, talents, basically...YOUR MUSIC, make sure you copyright your music.  Otherwise, don't say no one warned you!   ???

Title: Re: See here how to upload your work & few rules
Post by: Oldrottenhead on July 07, 2008, 03:28:30 PM
i was under the impression that once you posted your composition somewhere, you automatically copyrighted it. in that the posting is dated etc, the same as years ago you would post a copy of a song via the mail to your self to copyright it. am i just naive, if so who should i copyright my music.
Title: Re: See here how to upload your work & few rules
Post by: mduckworth73 on July 09, 2008, 04:35:32 PM
ORH,
  Look up Berne Convention.
I am NOT a lawyer and this is my opinion.
  If I understand it correctly, posting your work with a date helps to prove when you wrote it and possibly give copyrights to you. I still think sending it off to be copyrighted is still a good idea.
  The old method of mailing oneself his/her own work is a bust. It does NOT work.
  Hope this helps.
Duck
Title: Re: See here how to upload your work & few rules
Post by: Migs on April 06, 2009, 05:18:45 AM
I don't want this thread to go off track as it is about posting rules and how to upload.  Copyright laws depend on your jurisdiction.  Where I live, there is no need to register copyright in something or put a little c in a circle after it or anything like that.  If you created it, it is yours and people can't steal it.   If it is stolen then you just need to prove that you created it... for example, by showing that you posted it it here.  Just remember the law is an ass and there are very few universal rules and ... not everyone lives in the same country.
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: lexman on October 07, 2009, 04:18:34 AM
Is it possible when you've started a topic incl mp3, to update the mp3
(when your work is finished)  iso start a new topic?
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: 64Guitars on October 07, 2009, 10:33:04 AM
Quote from: lexman on October 07, 2009, 04:18:34 AMIs it possible when you've started a topic incl mp3, to update the mp3
(when your work is finished)  iso start a new topic?

We used to be able to do that. Unfortunately, ever since the site was reorganised (https://songcrafters.org/forum/general-discussion-b8/microrecorders-org-is-now-bossbr-net/msg18924/#msg18924) back in April, it is no longer possible to replace a posted MP3. Instead, you have to start a new topic and attach the updated MP3. You can then send me a PM (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=12) and ask me to merge the two topics so that the new post will appear in the original topic. I've already done this for your "Lost in Time" (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=4540.msg56084#msg56084) posts.

 - 64Guitars

Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: mr2kewl on November 25, 2009, 06:37:31 PM
hey 64,

i want to upload a new song but when i open the New Topic link, i do not get the Upload Song bar. am i doing something wrong or is it not there?

thanks,
8)
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: 64Guitars on November 25, 2009, 07:15:45 PM
Pedro changed the rules. Uploads are no longer accepted to the "Post your MP3" boards. See this message and topic:

https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=4800.msg60673#msg60673 (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=4800.msg60673#msg60673)

You have to upload your file somewhere else instead (SoundClick, box.net, 4share, etc). Then you can post a link to it in the "Post your MP3" boards.

Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: T.C. Elliott on January 05, 2010, 07:43:21 AM
Uploads are now acceptable again. And Copyright in the U.S. is a little odd. You own the copyright to your work as soon as the work is completed and you claim it. ie, (c)
BUT you cannot sue in court to reclaim damages until your REGISTER your copyright claim. If I thought anyone could make enough money off of my music to make it worth my while to sue them I'd register more often. For now I just register nearly completed recorded works.
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: badrail on March 04, 2012, 09:55:53 PM
Can I post a song while it is in a wav file, or do I have to convert it to MP3? (and how is this done???) (absolute newbie just getting to this point...) Thanks!
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: Hook on March 04, 2012, 10:33:00 PM
It needs to be an mp3 I use a free program called switch sound file converter and it works great.Open up switch drag what you want and set where and how to save it. It will convert almost all audio files.
Good luck!
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: badrail on March 04, 2012, 10:46:55 PM
Thanks! Just after I posted the above I went through 64's page and found the Switch software, I'll get it and convert. Then post!
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: 64Guitars on March 05, 2012, 12:47:12 PM
I like to use Audacity to make my MP3s because it also lets me trim the ends and normalize the levels. When you export a WAV file from the BR, it usually has unwanted silence, clicks, count-in, etc. at the beginning and end. Also, you might sometimes find that the overall level of your WAV file is a bit low. If you use Switch or some similar converter, all of that unwanted stuff will be in your MP3. But if you load your WAV file into Audacity, you can easily trim the unwanted stuff from the ends and boost the level (use the Amplify effect).

You can download Audacity 1.3.14 here:  http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/)

To learn how to export your WAV file from Audacity as an MP3, see this message:

https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=7315.msg118476#msg118476 (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=7315.msg118476#msg118476)

Another very useful feature of Audacity is its ability to show you where there's clipping in your WAV file. Pull down the View menu and make sure there's a checkmark beside "Show Clipping". Now you'll see red in the waveform wherever the signal is clipped. If you have a lot of clipping, there's nothing you can do to fix it in Audacity. But you can go back to the BR and re-master it with the recording level a bit lower.

See this topic for more on clipping and levels in Audacity:

https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=6217.0 (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=6217.0)

Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: seansdad40 on December 25, 2012, 07:10:30 PM
no flexibilty on maximum file size huh? this is really limiting me from posting better material. any suggestions?
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: cuthbert on December 26, 2012, 10:50:42 AM
Hi there,

Maximum file size for uploads was increased from 5 MB to 6 MB a while ago.

However, you can always host your mp3 files somewhere else, and then use one of our player widgets to link to it here. For instance, I noticed you have Reverbnation in your signature. Here's a guide on how to link to your song on Reverbnation and get it loaded in a player for playback here:

https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=7722.0;msg=100932

Complete info here:

https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=7722.0

hth,
cuthbert
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: T.C. Elliott on December 27, 2012, 08:12:35 AM
What Cuthbert said. Additionally, you can use off site hosting and use the mp3 single stream button as well. If you have your own website or if you use Weebly which allows direct linking or if you have a dropbox account and use the public folder. Any place that allows direct linking and doesn't restrict access to a file will work.

In addition to reverbnation (which I used in 2010 for at least 52 songs which are still working here now) there are several other places you can link a song from. Mixposure (not sure what that is) Soundclick, Soundcloud (which is a good one to use because it is the only one that FaceBook allows to play in a post using their sharing feature) and grooveshark. 

So there are a lot of options for higher quality files. But keep in mind, most people here are using computers to listen to your song. Is 192 vs 128 a huge issue on computer speakers? That being said, I have my computer going through a big system that I also mix on. Maybe you've got a good point on file size/quality.
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: Kenny B on December 27, 2012, 08:32:12 AM
How about this???

I did a Bass track on a tune already posted by some fellow Songcrafters and they liked it and said to post ...

Now I'm wondering where to post ... it's really not a new song/version so should
I post it on one of their topics or start a new one???
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: Hook on December 27, 2012, 08:36:35 AM
Most of the time people post it on the same thread and sometimes whoever posted the original will edit the main post with the new track. But I don't know if it really matters.
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: 64Guitars on December 27, 2012, 08:44:06 AM
Yes, all versions of a song should be kept in the same topic. Ideally, the preferred version should always be in the first post at the top of the topic, which can be edited by the original poster.

Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: Kenny B on December 27, 2012, 08:49:42 AM
Quote from: T.C. Elliott on December 27, 2012, 08:12:35 AMSo there are a lot of options for higher quality files. But keep in mind, most people here are using computers to listen to your song. Is 192 vs 128 a huge issue on computer speakers? That being said, I have my computer going through a big system that I also mix on. Maybe you've got a good point on file size/quality.

This is kind of funny and interesting to me because I was always into top notch
stereo sound and systems since I was a teenager ... now I listen to most stuff
through earbuds or computer speakers ...  ;D ;D ;D

I use Itunes when coming from a wav or cd it it also allows you to convert to
anything including 160 ...

kb
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: Kenny B on December 27, 2012, 09:02:27 AM
Thanks 64 and hook ... that's what I was thinking ... I definitely
didn't think I should start another topic.  I will follow up with the
original crafters ...

It must be tough to keep all this in order and I must say ...
I've found some great tunes that were worked on by many
with many versions and tried to search for the most current
version (sometimes on multiple threads) ... would be nice
if they were on the first post although many of these are
older posts and I realize everything can't be kept perfectly.
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: kenny mac on December 27, 2012, 11:46:31 AM
Hi guys ,just seen this after sending kenny an email.
I would prefer the new mix to be the main one so if that could be sorted  out then great. ;D
                                                             kenny mac
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: 64Guitars on December 27, 2012, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: kenny mac on December 27, 2012, 11:46:31 AMI would prefer the new mix to be the main one so if that could be sorted  out then great. ;D

No problem. I assume we're talking about "Big Blue World"? I've added Kenny B's mix to the main post. I left the original version attached too. If you don't want it, just edit your post and un-check the attachment.

https://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=17019.0 (https://songcrafters.org/forum/index.php?topic=17019.0)

Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: Bishmanrock on June 27, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
Sorry for the silly question ahead, I thought the rules were pretty straight forward but then I read the rest of the topic and got pretty confused

Rules say this is for completed works, but then later posts are talking about updating tracks to newer versions? So are WIP tracks (provided they resemble an actual full song and not just a riff/idea) allowed, or am I misunderstanding?
Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: 64Guitars on June 27, 2021, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: Bishmanrock on June 27, 2021, 03:18:53 PMSorry for the silly question ahead, I thought the rules were pretty straight forward but then I read the rest of the topic and got pretty confused

Rules say this is for completed works, but then later posts are talking about updating tracks to newer versions? So are WIP tracks (provided they resemble an actual full song and not just a riff/idea) allowed, or am I misunderstanding?

The idea is to post only one version of a song. If you later decide to remix the recording or add more parts to it, then the new version should replace the old one rather than being a separate post. You replace an attachment by editing your post, unchecking the unwanted attachment, and saving the message. Then you can re-edit the same post and add the new attachment.

The term WIP (work in progress) suggests that the recording is unfinished and that you intend to continue working on it. I think we should all resist the urge to post such unfinished recordings. Instead, wait till you feel that your recording is finished before posting it. Having said that, we sometimes have second thoughts about songs that we've posted and decide to remix them or make other changes. That's okay because you posted the recording believing it to be finished but later had second thoughts. But when we know that a recording is unfinished, we shouldn't post it until we believe that it is finished.

Title: Re: How to upload your song & Rules
Post by: Bishmanrock on June 28, 2021, 01:33:49 AM
Perfect sense, cheers!