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« Reply #135 on: July 28, 2011, 01:12:11 pm »

YIPPEE.....mines being delivered tomorrow
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« Reply #136 on: July 28, 2011, 05:20:35 pm »

me too Cuth....

Congrats Mike!
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« Reply #137 on: July 28, 2011, 06:05:53 pm »

I had the issue but havn't been able to recreate it.

Any reports other than me in LIVEREC or eBand mode regarding drive busy errors?

I have not had a single error in MTR mode.

Welcome aboard Eric!
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« Reply #138 on: July 28, 2011, 06:19:58 pm »

So this may be a no brainer for veterans but, I ran into an issue that had me stumped for a bit. I was trying to just use the line in for recording off a mixing panel. I couldn't seem to figure out how to shut off the internal mic's so, I was recording the room and the line in. I was confused as, the other inputs would override the internal mic's. It sounded horrid. Lowest common denominator that I can be, I searched endlessly through the functions, frustrated. In the end all you have to do is turn the rec level to 0. The line in bypasses it and Robert is your fathers brother!

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« Reply #139 on: July 29, 2011, 08:53:35 am »

Is it easy to record with the mics in mono? Or, god forbid, do you have to record everything in stereo? I know Geir posted that on the 800 you have to turn down one input eg. Left, and record that way...just something thats bothered me since I found out about the stereo mics, great for when you want 'em, a bummer if you don't...

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« Reply #140 on: July 29, 2011, 08:58:28 am »

i'm actually quite looking forward to recording vox in stereo, on the microbr i often use pan delay guitar effect to two tracks to get a faux stereo sound, also be interesting to find out what new effects it has.

when recording vox on my microbr i hold it in my hand, if i ever get my hands on a br80 i think i'll invest on some sort of stand for it to sit on.
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« Reply #141 on: July 29, 2011, 09:05:31 am »

i'm actually quite looking forward to recording vox in stereo, on the microbr i often use pan delay guitar effect to two tracks to get a faux stereo sound, also be interesting to find out what new effects it has.

when recording vox on my microbr i hold it in my hand, if i ever get my hands on a br80 i think i'll invest on some sort of stand for it to sit on.

        Recording vocals in true stereo is incredibly difficult to do. Any head movements can cause phasing problems, and/or balance problems. Phasing issues can lead to phase cancellation, which can cause the vocals to disappear if a stereo song is broadcast in mono. I know that don't happen much these days, but you never know. You'll also be totally UNsurprised to know that I used to specialize in causing stereo vocals to disappear when heard in mono. Oh, how we laughed at the look on the A & R man's face when he heard an AM broadcast of the latest single, with NO VOCAL!!   Grin Grin

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« Reply #142 on: July 29, 2011, 09:10:40 am »

Is it easy to record with the mics in mono?

Judging from the manual, it should be very easy. Whenever you select one of the four track buttons (TR1/2, TR3/4, TR5/6, TR7/8) for recording, you're presented with the following screen from which you must choose the left track, right track, or both.

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Page 59 of the manual says "The left channel of signals input in stereo will be recorded on TR1, while the right channel will be recorded on TR2".

So, selecting an odd-numbered track (1, 3, 5 or 7) should record only the left mic, and selecting an even-numbered track (2, 4, 6, or 8) should record only the right mic.

Perhaps someone who actually has a BR-80 could confirm this?

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« Reply #143 on: July 29, 2011, 09:22:47 am »

i'm actually quite looking forward to recording vox in stereo, on the microbr i often use pan delay guitar effect to two tracks to get a faux stereo sound, also be interesting to find out what new effects it has.

A single voice is basically mono. There's very little stereo information in the sound source except for reflections from the room, and those reflections are practically eliminated when you hold the mic close while singing. So there's really nothing to be gained by recording a single voice in stereo. And stereo effects such as auto-pan, delay, etc. need a mono source to achieve the stereo effect.

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when recording vox on my microbr i hold it in my hand, if i ever get my hands on a br80 i think i'll invest on some sort of stand for it to sit on.

That would be a good idea. I'd suggest looking into the Spiderpodium:

http://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=637.msg134869#msg134869

It looks like a very versatile stand. You can set it on a table, or attach it to a mic stand, fridge/cupboard door handle, etc.

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« Reply #144 on: July 29, 2011, 09:51:20 am »



So i just finally did some recording and started with the Live Rec. I must say its an amazing  mode to have for capturing song ideas. That`s all it`s good for but very important for a songwriter. The mics sure pick up both guitar and singing way better than the Mbr. The S`s, P`s and F`s are very dominant though. I hope it`s not a huge problem if and when i get around to singing tracks in MTR mode.

when recording vox on my microbr i hold it in my hand, if i ever get my hands on a br80 i think i'll invest on some sort of stand for it to sit on.

These mics are way different Jim and i bet you`ll change your way of singing into the br-80.

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That would be a good idea. I'd suggest looking into the Spiderpodium:

That looks like something i need! Where do i buy one?
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« Reply #145 on: July 29, 2011, 10:05:02 am »

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That would be a good idea. I'd suggest looking into the Spiderpodium:

That looks like something i need! Where do i buy one?

You can buy it direct from their website for $19.99 US (they ship to Canada).

http://www.breffo.com/usa/buy.html

Or, if you want to buy it from a local store, I'd suggest you contact breffo and ask for some names of dealers in Canada.

http://www.breffo.com/contact.html

You can email them at sales@breffo.com.

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« Reply #146 on: July 29, 2011, 10:18:07 am »

Is it easy to record with the mics in mono?

Judging from the manual, it should be very easy. Whenever you select one of the four track buttons (TR1/2, TR3/4, TR5/6, TR7/8) for recording, you're presented with the following screen from which you must choose the left track, right track, or both.

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Page 59 of the manual says "The left channel of signals input in stereo will be recorded on TR1, while the right channel will be recorded on TR2".

So, selecting an odd-numbered track (1, 3, 5 or 7) should record only the left mic, and selecting an even-numbered track (2, 4, 6, or Cool should record only the right mic.

Perhaps someone who actually has a BR-80 could confirm this?



No, if you select one track the left and right mics are mixed to a mono signal so they both will be recorded, the same goes for the stereo line input.
I don't know if this was the right decision cause it might result in phase problems.

What i do like about the new system is you can see, at a glance, if a track is stereo or not.
The R above the track numbers is widther for the 2 track (stereo) selection.

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« Reply #147 on: July 29, 2011, 10:34:10 am »

^then it's pretty much the same as on the BR800, and is the reason why I turn down the input sensitivity on one of the mics when recording to a mono track. Of course you can always concentrate on one mic and ditch the other track after recording to stereo tracks.
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« Reply #148 on: August 02, 2011, 04:28:34 am »

12 hour shifts=extra $ for toys
12 hour shifts=no time to play with said toys
a catch 22

i'm gonna buy one in place of an interface-if/when i buy my new laptop

i like that its 8 tracks now-btw
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« Reply #149 on: August 02, 2011, 08:30:58 am »

Guys, is anyone else having a philosophical problem with not being able to manually select input methods, which turn other inputs off?

Is there something that I'm missing?

example, if I'm recording LINE IN, the Mics are still hot.
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